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ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 11, 2014, 08:08:55 AM
Agreed.  And it would probably only take 1 commercial flight to really miss how things used to be.

Nah, VT should take the bus.  get back to Buzz's roots.  #2 meals and 15 passenger vans.

The Equalizer

Quote from: bilsu on April 11, 2014, 08:21:49 AM
Mu generally does not annouce transfers until their grades are in. Having said that, I am not expecting any transfers.

I don't think this is correct.

Last year, we knew of Furgeson's transfer by April 9th.
Jamail Jones transfer was annouced on April 27th.
Pat Hazel was April 12th.
Christopherson was by April 10th.
Erik Williams was May 7th

It appears that transfers are annouced as soon as the decision is final.  The earlier the decision is reached, the more transfer options they have.  Schools will fill up their scholarships tables, so if they wait until grades are in, chances are that there will be few programs with openings.

UticaBusBarn

Speaking of His Buzzship, one question and one observation.

Has Bart hired any assistants, as yet?

Brett knows how to recruit, has an Empire State Building chip on his shoulder, and will build the Gobblers, or whatever they are called, into winners quickly.

It will be a bit harder because Bent has done damage to himself and to his credibility with move/press. Beauregard will win, and from his point of view, save souls.

GooooMarquette

I think some people here care more about Burt's performance in Blacksburg than most VT fans do.  VT fans are  probably spending most of their time talking about the upcoming spring football game.

Welcome to nowhere, Bart!

Sheriff

Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 11, 2014, 08:21:07 AM
I swear. You are the guys that get into dick-measuring contests with your ex's new boyfriends.
And lose.

77ncaachamps

MU > VT.

Didn't realize majority of the head-to-heads were close games.

That said, 5-4 MU.

http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/virginia_tech
SS Marquette

MattyWarrior

Maybe Burt,Brent,is having a little buyers remorse. He hasn't named any assistants as of yet and hes all alone on the
recruiting trail with a crap ton of money. Living the life!

Shack

Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 11, 2014, 08:21:07 AM
I swear. You are the guys that get into dick-measuring contests with your ex's new boyfriends.

It's not the size of the dog in the fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog

HoyaPotter

Butt's cleared 3 scholarships for next year now.

forgetful

Quote from: Blueprint on April 11, 2014, 08:14:28 PM
Maybe Burt,Brent,is having a little buyers remorse. He hasn't named any assistants as of yet and hes all alone on the
recruiting trail with a crap ton of money. Living the life!

Hasn't named any assistants yet, because that allows them all to be on the recruiting trail during a dead period. He is playing the game.

Sunbelt15

Quote from: Heisenberg on April 11, 2014, 06:44:26 AM
As of this writing (early April 11) ...

Overview of MU

Wojo has been the Head Coach for 11 days.

No existing player has transferred (yet?).
No signed recruit has ask out of their NLI (yet?).  

If Brett stayed would this have been the case as of April 11?  I would argue no.  At least two players would have transferred.


Overview of VT

Brent has been the Head Coach for 21 days.

Bert has lost arguably his best player ... 6'11" Freshmen Trevor Thompson announced he is going to transfer
Brent has lost two signed VT recruits as they have asked for their release.

What It Means ...

Brent lost three players and, again as of this writing, no existing MU player or MU signed recruit seems interested in following Brent to VT.  Even Malek Harris, does not seem to be thrilled to go to VT as Malek has had 21 days to announce he going to follow Brent to VT.  He still may go to VT but at this point it is becoming apparent VT is Malek's "Safety School."

Fans of VT have to be concerned, when Thompson signed with a VT, they were a last place team.  They finished in last place this year.  VT hired a "Big Name" coach for a ton of money and their best player bails out.  Recruits that signed with a last place team are also bailing on a perceived "major upgrade" in coaching.  Finally, the great recruiter cannot lure ANYONE from his last stop (MU) to VT, not an existing player and not a recruit.

Meanwhile Wojo with a career 0 - 0 record seems to (again seems to) be keeping everyone at MU, has gotten Chief Cohen to recommit, gotten Noskowiak  to put MU at the top of his list again and has Ahmed Hill unsure about what to do (he has not flatly rejected Wojo after 11 days).

It seems as if everyone is responding to Wojo as the big name big reputation coach and Brent as the unknown assistant that is a big risk.

Am I too early in these observations or is their something here?

We should be on our knees thanking our administrators and DUKE. All of this Wojo hype is because of his association with Duke and their basketball history. If he would have came from any other high major, non-blue blood school like MU, we would have defections and departures all through our program.

So, thank you administrators for having the foresight to see this, and keeping this program relavent.

Nevada233

#36
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 11, 2014, 06:44:26 AM
As of this writing (early April 11) ...

Overview of MU

Wojo has been the Head Coach for 11 days.

No existing player has transferred (yet?).
No signed recruit has ask out of their NLI (yet?).  

If Brett stayed would this have been the case as of April 11?  I would argue no.  At least two players would have transferred.


Overview of VT

Brent has been the Head Coach for 21 days.

Bert has lost arguably his best player ... 6'11" Freshmen Trevor Thompson announced he is going to transfer
Brent has lost two signed VT recruits as they have asked for their release.

What It Means ...

Brent lost three players and, again as of this writing, no existing MU player or MU signed recruit seems interested in following Brent to VT.  Even Malek Harris, does not seem to be thrilled to go to VT as Malek has had 21 days to announce he going to follow Brent to VT.  He still may go to VT but at this point it is becoming apparent VT is Malek's "Safety School."

Fans of VT have to be concerned, when Thompson signed with a VT, they were a last place team.  They finished in last place this year.  VT hired a "Big Name" coach for a ton of money and their best player bails out.  Recruits that signed with a last place team are also bailing on a perceived "major upgrade" in coaching.  Finally, the great recruiter cannot lure ANYONE from his last stop (MU) to VT, not an existing player and not a recruit.

Meanwhile Wojo with a career 0 - 0 record seems to (again seems to) be keeping everyone at MU, has gotten Chief Cohen to recommit, gotten Noskowiak  to put MU at the top of his list again and has Ahmed Hill unsure about what to do (he has not flatly rejected Wojo after 11 days).

It seems as if everyone is responding to Wojo as the big name big reputation coach and Brent as the unknown assistant that is a big risk.

Am I too early in these observations or is their something here?


The Parent in the picture.... Is probably happy hes gone.... Just like I am!

dgies9156

He's a Hillbilly.

He left Marquette.

Of course his reputation dove!

When you go from the penthouse to the outhouse -- or probably wizzing off the neighbor's patio -- what do you expect?

jsglow

I'm not all that concerned with Buzz' success or lack thereof at VT.  I'm certainly not focused on the Grade B level recruit he's able to get going forward.  What I do know is that he really wasn't welcome at MU anymore and that there were audible cheers in Zilber that we didn't need to pay his buyout.  So it's a little like dumping your girlfriend, retrieving your prized class ring, and then caring who she dates going forward.

77ncaachamps

Quote from: Nevada233 on April 12, 2014, 07:56:51 AM

The Parent in the picture.... Is probably happy hes gone.... Just like I am!

That's not Dawson's daddy on the right, is it?
SS Marquette

Nevada233


NersEllenson

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 12, 2014, 11:41:28 AM
That's not Dawson's daddy on the right, is it?

Pretty sure that's Gardner's Mom and Dad....feeling for their son for having his senior year go down as it did.  Can't even imagine what the Dawson's true feelings were this past season - seeing their son perform REALLY well the one game he was given a legit chance, and then thereafter rarely seeing him get more than 8 minutes a game...while nothing improved with the guy ahead of him...and the team continued to flounder/lose games.

Buzz was in crazy town all last season.  Not the same coach he'd been the 5 previous years.  Totally lost it...and the team.  Pretty sure we'd have seen 3 or 4 transfers had he stayed...
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

willie warrior

What's pretty funny is that there are only about 4 slurpers still posting here. The rest have all taken a hiatus. They will be back at an opportune time. The slurpers left here are still defending their boy which is fine, it is amusement city. Just amazed at the blinders some people wear.

Did see a few posts from people who admitted that Buzz had them fooled, but to my recollection most of those were not big time defenders of El Buzzo. Have not seen one Buzz apologist admit they were wrong, the tune more is, "he did great things for us". And he did, with some exceptions, but his cowboy obstinacy sure carried him well to the end this past year, screwing kids and the team with it. El Douche: RIP.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

tower912

Buzz is going to be fine at VT.   He is not going to have the same restriction on recruiting.    He is going to be able to use the "us against the world" mentality, as the expectations for VT basketball are so low.    I don't know how long he will be there, as apparently the wandering eye/vagabond ethos is too deeply ingrained in him.   There is going to be roster turnover, there is going to be JUCO's.  But I predict he does well enough there that when an opening at a big boy school opens up, he will still be on the short list.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Silkk the Shaka

#44
Quote from: willie warrior on April 14, 2014, 08:39:07 AM
What's pretty funny is that there are only about 4 slurpers still posting here. The rest have all taken a hiatus. They will be back at an opportune time. The slurpers left here are still defending their boy which is fine, it is amusement city. Just amazed at the blinders some people wear.

Did see a few posts from people who admitted that Buzz had them fooled, but to my recollection most of those were not big time defenders of El Buzzo. Have not seen one Buzz apologist admit they were wrong, the tune more is, "he did great things for us". And he did, with some exceptions, but his cowboy obstinacy sure carried him well to the end this past year, screwing kids and the team with it. El Douche: RIP.

Hey willie, are you still clinging to that narrative that Buzz forced Duane to redshirt and that he's pissed about it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpSnVQWxTM0

Please see the 1:00 to 1:10 mark. This is unprovoked, he just brings it up himself that he respects Buzz for advising him to go that route.

Buzz made a dumb decision to leave MU. We will be fine, Buzz may or may not be. However, you have to be one of the biggest morons I've ever come across. Congrats, have a great day!

willie warrior

Yes Buzz Lover/defender/Apologist/Slurper. I stand by it. Initially he did not want to RS, but was forced to by Buzz not playing him and other frosh. What else would you have him say now.

We could have used him for the last 20 or so games--and he would have been a hell of a better option than the shotless PG that Buzz insisted on ramming down everybody's throat. And I wouldn't expect a Buzz Boy to even consider this while wearing the blinders.

And speaking of morons, numbskull, always start the name calling of others that do not agree with you. But I defer to your professed superior intellect, which I am convinced has taken you far in your quest.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."


Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: tower912 on April 14, 2014, 08:52:18 AM
Buzz is going to be fine at VT.   He is not going to have the same restriction on recruiting.    He is going to be able to use the "us against the world" mentality, as the expectations for VT basketball are so low.    I don't know how long he will be there, as apparently the wandering eye/vagabond ethos is too deeply ingrained in him.   There is going to be roster turnover, there is going to be JUCO's.  But I predict he does well enough there that when an opening at a big boy school opens up, he will still be on the short list.   

When you say he will be fine, what does that mean? Do you think he will be a regular in the tourney there? I think he will not be able to get that team to over .500 for at least 3 years, if at all. That league is very deep and I just don't see them being able to consistently compete with those top tier teams. I don think he will ever be able to land a blue blood job and unless he performs well at Va Tech, I think this move will cost him the chance to be Rick Barnes replacement.

tower912

I think this past season was the outlier and that he will be able to get VT to overperform their expectations, like he did at MU during seasons 2-5.    I don't know if that will get him to .500 in conference or not.   But back to Seth Greenberg levels is the floor for long term expectations while he is there.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: tower912 on April 14, 2014, 11:41:01 AM
I think this past season was the outlier and that he will be able to get VT to overperform their expectations, like he did at MU during seasons 2-5.    I don't know if that will get him to .500 in conference or not.   But back to Seth Greenberg levels is the floor for long term expectations while he is there.   

VT was last place in the ACC the last three years.  They cannot get worse.

The question is what does VT think its getting for $18 million (over 7 years) and lots of jet fuel bills?

Will he be the ACC's Oliver Purnell?

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