Lovell Is Our Biggest Obstacle

[Texas Western]

Lovell looks to be an good choice for President. He understands what it takes to appeal to the corporate and institutional world and thus will do well building the academic side. However, this basketball coach is his first big decision and a highly public one at that. My years of experience of dealing with corporate types like Lovell is that they go with the no risk, appears good on paper decision. So what that means is that Lovell will base the decision on who HE is comfortable with as opposed to who an 18 year old ghetto kid and their single parent mother is comfortable with.  So unfortunately that means no black or high charisma white coaches will get hired. We need a coach who appeals to urban kids, has an urban sensibility and and can recruit in an  urban setting which is what we are. If a modern day Al McGuire or John Thompson came along, they would not get hired at MU.  Lovell in my mind is our biggest obstacle because the probability is high that he does the wrong thing.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

This makes no sense...How do you know what Lovell is like? Plus I really doubt he is the one making the ultimate decisions on the coaching search. Its all Cords.

[ChicosBailBonds]

This makes no sense...How do you know what Lovell is like? Plus I really doubt he is the one making the ultimate decisions on the coaching search. Its all Cords.

It's not all Cords

[mr.MUskie]

It's not all Cords

+1

[Benny B]

So you're saying that MU is going to hire a moderately charismatic multiracial coach?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

It's not all Cords

Well maybe, but dont blame Lovell. Blame the BOT. The way you described Lovell is not the person I met.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Well maybe, but dont blame Lovell. Blame the BOT. The way you described Lovell is not the person I met.

You said yourself you spent 5 minutes with Lovell.  That's not a ton of time.  I was happy to read your story about his engagement, I'm not sure how one determines his ability to weigh in on a coach in that 5 minutes.

If you wish, you can read about Lovell on the UWM boards as it relates to basketball....I'm talking about comments made weeks and months ago.  Interesting comments.   

[Skatastrophy]

So you're saying that MU is going to hire a moderately charismatic multiracial coach?

[Silkk the Shaka]

Wow, WHOLE lot of assumptions and jumping to conclusions in that original post. The guy has been on the job less than a week and you haven't even met him!

[RubyWiscy]

Well, he did come from UWM. Wouldn't it make sense that he wants to bring MU basketball down to their level ala Larry Williams and ND?

Give me a break!

[madtownwarrior]

It's posts like this that make one want to ignore Scoop all together...

a)  You know next to nothing about the hiring process or Lovell
b)  You make a definitive statement "Lovell Is Our Biggest Obstacle"

Good lord...

Lovell looks to be an good choice for President. He understands what it takes to appeal to the corporate and institutional world and thus will do well building the academic side. However, this basketball coach is his first big decision and a highly public one at that. My years of experience of dealing with corporate types like Lovell is that they go with the no risk, appears good on paper decision. So what that means is that Lovell will base the decision on who HE is comfortable with as opposed to who an 18 year old ghetto kid and their single parent mother is comfortable with.  So unfortunately that means no black or high charisma white coaches will get hired. We need a coach who appeals to urban kids, has an urban sensibility and and can recruit in an  urban setting which is what we are. If a modern day Al McGuire or John Thompson came along, they would not get hired at MU.  Lovell in my mind is our biggest obstacle because the probability is high that he does the wrong thing.

[Ari Gold]

Dear God, please...someone.. anyone.... burn scoop to the ground

[Tugg Speedman]

Lovell looks to be an good choice for President. He understands what it takes to appeal to the corporate and institutional world and thus will do well building the academic side. However, this basketball coach is his first big decision and a highly public one at that. My years of experience of dealing with corporate types like Lovell is that they go with the no risk, appears good on paper decision. So what that means is that Lovell will base the decision on who HE is comfortable with as opposed to who an 18 year old ghetto kid and their single parent mother is comfortable with.  So unfortunately that means no black or high charisma white coaches will get hired. We need a coach who appeals to urban kids, has an urban sensibility and and can recruit in an  urban setting which is what we are. If a modern day Al McGuire or John Thompson came along, they would not get hired at MU.  Lovell in my mind is our biggest obstacle because the probability is high that he does the wrong thing.

This is completely wrong and I don't know where to begin in correcting it.

[NavinRJohnson]

It's not all Cords

Correct. AD's don't hire coaches.

[GooooMarquette]

If he expects the no-risk hire, why hasn't Howland been signed yet?

[Texas Western]

Well maybe, but dont blame Lovell. Blame the BOT. The way you described Lovell is not the person I met.

I am not blaming Lovell, I am just putting out what my experience with guys like that is. I met him and guys like Lovell always  go for the Wojo's of the world because they will fell comfortable with them, no one can dispute the Duke pedigree etc.  Lovell will not have the insight or courage to hire a dynamic street smart guy which is what we need.  

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I am not blaming Lovell, I am just putting out what my experience with guys like that is. I met him and guys like Lovell always  go for the Wojo's of the world because they will fell comfortable with them, no one can dispute the Duke pedigree etc.  Lovell will not have the insight or courage to hire a dynamic street smart guy which is what we need.  

"Guys like Lovell" Thats a reaaalllyyy big assumption.

[Hards Alumni]

Lovell looks to be an good choice for President. He understands what it takes to appeal to the corporate and institutional world and thus will do well building the academic side. However, this basketball coach is his first big decision and a highly public one at that. My years of experience of dealing with corporate types like Lovell is that they go with the no risk, appears good on paper decision. So what that means is that Lovell will base the decision on who HE is comfortable with as opposed to who an 18 year old ghetto kid and their single parent mother is comfortable with.  So unfortunately that means no black or high charisma white coaches will get hired. We need a coach who appeals to urban kids, has an urban sensibility and and can recruit in an  urban setting which is what we are. If a modern day Al McGuire or John Thompson came along, they would not get hired at MU.  Lovell in my mind is our biggest obstacle because the probability is high that he does the wrong thing.

Jumping to conclusions, racism, illogical.

Just what we need more of here.   

[Benny B]

I am not blaming Lovell, I am just putting out what my experience with guys like that is. I met him and guys like Lovell always  go for the Wojo's of the world because they will fell comfortable with them, no one can dispute the Duke pedigree etc.  Lovell will not have the insight or courage to hire a dynamic street smart guy which is what we need.  

"Guys like Lovell" typically trust their AD enough to do the hiring.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Lovell looks to be an good choice for President. He understands what it takes to appeal to the corporate and institutional world and thus will do well building the academic side. However, this basketball coach is his first big decision and a highly public one at that. My years of experience of dealing with corporate types like Lovell is that they go with the no risk, appears good on paper decision. So what that means is that Lovell will base the decision on who HE is comfortable with as opposed to who an 18 year old ghetto kid and their single parent mother is comfortable with.  So unfortunately that means no black or high charisma white coaches will get hired. We need a coach who appeals to urban kids, has an urban sensibility and and can recruit in an  urban setting which is what we are. If a modern day Al McGuire or John Thompson came along, they would not get hired at MU.  Lovell in my mind is our biggest obstacle because the probability is high that he does the wrong thing.

Ghetto kid? Seriously man?

Step down off the soapbox. You know nothing about which you speak.

[mileskishnish72]

So we can expect a traditional coach?

[Skatastrophy]

Ghetto kid? Seriously man?

Step down off the soapbox. You know nothing about which you speak.

When people say ignorant crap like "ghetto kids," just ignore them and hope everyone else does too. You can't vet everyone that chooses to be a fan of your favorite team.

[Texas Western]

Ghetto kid? Seriously man?

Step down off the soapbox. You know nothing about which you speak.
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18 year old Ghetto kids are what have dominated college basketball for the past 50 years. We need a coach that appeals to them and  can coach them. That is reality and I doubt that Lovell understand thats. When the final announcement is made the first thing that will come out of his mouth is that He is comfortable with the choice. He needs to get out of his comfort zone

[Silkk the Shaka]

Does Chris Columbo need a timeout?

[Texas Western]

When people say ignorant crap like "ghetto kids," just ignore them and hope everyone else does too. You can't vet everyone that chooses to be a fan of your favorite team.

Your just uncomfortable with the truth and reality of college basketball.