Frank Kaminsky

[BCHoopster]

 Is Frank the best center in college ball right now, I know you Wisco haters, hate to discuss the Badgers, but I can not think of a more improved big man from one year to the next.  Is there anyone better right now?

[Niv Berkowitz]

He's really good. And he's like Laimbeer back in the day - a center that can knock down buckets inside and out and rebound.

[Dawson Rental]

Nothing says stepping stone like hiring a player with no coaching experience from your instate rival.

[Tugg Speedman]

Tom Izzo says everyone has a memory that lasts only three weeks.

How else can you explain an otherwise sane person saying Kaminsky is better than Julius Randle or Joel Embiid?

[Hards Alumni]

Tom Izzo says everyone has a memory that lasts only three weeks.

How else can you explain an otherwise sane person saying Kaminsky is better than Julius Randle or Joel Embiid?

Because he is a better college center.

Embiid has only a few years of bball experience, and a much higher ceiling.  Randle is a PF.

Kaminsky is really really good.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Kaminsky reminds me of a better Chris Crawford, who had a very nice NBA career. Btw, is Crawford included with all our NBA jerseys? He seems to be a forgotten man at MU.

[Nukem2]

The Badgers would not be any where near the Final 4 without Kaminsky.  His emergence this year in phenomenal.  Last year he was a stiff who could hit the 3 pointer.  The guy is really tall and long.  Watched at the BC last week for the NCAAs.  Guy stands out like a giraffe on the court and he can run like a deer.  

[Hards Alumni]

The Badgers would not be any where near the Final 4 without Kaminsky.  His emergence this year in phenomenal.  Last year he was a stiff who could hit the 3 pointer.  The guy is really tall and long.  Watched at the BC last week for the NCAAs.  Guy stands out like a giraffe on the court and he can run like a deer.  

His post moves are amazing as well.

[source?]

Nothing says stepping stone like hiring a player with no coaching experience from your instate rival.

We have to eliminate him as a candidate soon anyway. God forbid we actually consider anyone with final four experience.

[Tugg Speedman]

Because he is a better college center.

Embiid has only a few years of bball experience, and a much higher ceiling.  Randle is a PF.

Kaminsky is really really good.

Did not say he was not, he is really good.  He had a epic game yesterday, no doubt.  And for a 3-star recruit that barely played his Freshman year, he improvement has been off the charts, the stuff of legends.  

But for you proclaim him "the best in college basketball" after one great game ... c'mon

Ok for centers .... a few weeks ago everyone here was saying Alec Brown of Greenbay was the best in the state.  If Kaminsky lays an egg next week and scores 5 points, is Brown back above him?

How about:

Mitch Mcgary of Michigan (when healthy)
Patric Young of Florida
Payne of Michigan State

I know, none of them had an epic game 12 hours ago, so they cannot be the best in college basketball.

And how about this:

December 7, 2013 MU at Madison

MU loses 70 - 64

Kaminsky, 24 minutes 11 points, 4 rebounds
Devante Gardner, 23 minutes, 16 points 3 rebounds.

Gardner outplayed him ... wait that was more than 3 weeks ago so it does not count.  Otherwise Gardner would be the best in college basketball.

[Hards Alumni]

Did not say he was not, he is really good.  He had a epic game yesterday, no doubt.  And for a 3-star recruit that barely played his Freshman year, he improvement has been off the charts, the stuff of legends.  

But for you proclaim him "the best in college basketball" after one great game ... c'mon

Ok for centers .... a few weeks ago everyone here was saying Alec Brown of Greenbay was the best in the state.  If Kaminsky lays an egg next week and scores 5 points, is Brown back above him?

How about:

Mitch Mcgary of Michigan (when healthy)
Patric Young of Florida
Payne of Michigan State

I know, none of them had an epic game 12 hours ago, so they cannot be the best in college basketball.

And how about this:

December 7, 2013 MU at Madison

MU loses 70 - 64

Kaminsky, 24 minutes 11 points, 4 rebounds
Devante Gardner, 23 minutes, 16 points 3 rebounds.

Gardner outplayed him ... wait that was more than 3 weeks ago so it does not count.  Otherwise Gardner would be the best in college basketball.

So cherry picking, and a strawman. Well played.

He is the number one rated player in the B1G according to Kenpom, and the 7th best player in the country according to Ken.

[WesleyPipes]

Did not say he was not, he is really good.  He had a epic game yesterday, no doubt.  And for a 3-star recruit that barely played his Freshman year, he improvement has been off the charts, the stuff of legends.  

But for you proclaim him "the best in college basketball" after one great game ... c'mon

Ok for centers .... a few weeks ago everyone here was saying Alec Brown of Greenbay was the best in the state.  If Kaminsky lays an egg next week and scores 5 points, is Brown back above him?

How about:

Mitch Mcgary of Michigan (when healthy)
Patric Young of Florida
Payne of Michigan State

I know, none of them had an epic game 12 hours ago, so they cannot be the best in college basketball.

And how about this:

December 7, 2013 MU at Madison

MU loses 70 - 64

Kaminsky, 24 minutes 11 points, 4 rebounds
Devante Gardner, 23 minutes, 16 points 3 rebounds.

Gardner outplayed him ... wait that was more than 3 weeks ago so it does not count.  Otherwise Gardner would be the best in college basketball.

Maybe if Gardner knew how to play defense too.

[NersEllenson]

Kaminsky will have pro scouts drooling...already does after this recent run of games.  He's got all the tools to become the next Dirk Nowitzki.  Barkley said as much...said of course he isn't Dirk at this point - but all the tools are there, and that already his footwork/post game is better than Dirk's.

He's a matchup nightmare for the opposition, and gives you great flexibility on the offensive end, as you have to defend him out to the 3 point line...creates great driving lanes for the others.

STUD.

[Pakuni]

Good college center, limited NBA upside.
Ceiling is probably a Brad Miller type, if he can put on some bulk.

[Tugg Speedman]

So cherry picking, and a strawman. Well played.

He is the number one rated player in the B1G according to Kenpom, and the 7th best player in the country according to Ken.

How else you do you answer this question????

How many centers does KenPom rate ahead of Kaminsky?  Embiid?

[Tugg Speedman]

Good college center, limited NBA upside.
Ceiling is probably a Brad Miller type, if he can put on some bulk.

This

Big white guys that can shoot ... Kyle Kover and Steve Novak.  He's in this group if everything works out.  How does he stop Dwight Howard in the post?

[oshkoshbgosh]

Kaminsky improved more in the last year than Otule did in six. Does that speak to coaching?

[JWags85]

He's much better than Dekker's overrated self, thats for sure.  Did Dekker even play yesterday?

We saw in the first half how Kaminsky struggles with length inside.  But if he pulls his man outside, he's trouble.

[Eldon]

Kaminsky improved more in the last year than Otule did in six. Does that speak to coaching?

Well, to be fair, Otule has only one eye.  So that comparison isn't exactly apples-to-apples...or apples-to-oranges for that matter...it's more like apples-to-grass

[Pakuni]

Kaminsky improved more in the last year than Otule did in six. Does that speak to coaching?

Not really, given the number of the highly rated big men who never developed under Bo (Butch, Stiemsa, Anderson, Gavinski).

[Nevada233]

Kaminsky will have pro scouts drooling...already does after this recent run of games.  He's got all the tools to become the next Dirk Nowitzki.  Barkley said as much...said of course he isn't Dirk at this point - but all the tools are there, and that already his footwork/post game is better than Dirk's.

He's a matchup nightmare for the opposition, and gives you great flexibility on the offensive end, as you have to defend him out to the 3 point line...creates great driving lanes for the others.

STUD.

Kaminsky is the man!!!

28 and 11 against a #1 seed. Hes the goods......
Aaron Gordon was not the Goods last night.

Kaminsky improved more in the 2nd Half of last nights game. Than Jamil did in the 2nd half of the season.......

[Tugg Speedman]

Kaminsky will have pro scouts drooling...already does after this recent run of games.  He's got all the tools to become the next Dirk Nowitzki.  Barkley said as much...said of course he isn't Dirk at this point - but all the tools are there, and that already his footwork/post game is better than Dirk's.

He's a matchup nightmare for the opposition, and gives you great flexibility on the offensive end, as you have to defend him out to the 3 point line...creates great driving lanes for the others.

STUD.

Kaminsky is not listed among the 10 centers on NBA draft express 2014.  Interestingly, on the list is Embiid no. 2 overall and Noah Voleh no. 7 overall from Indiana.

http://nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft

Kaminsky is not listed among the 2015 board either

http://nbadraft.net/2015mock_draft

Interestingly, Kevon Looney is no. 8 and Sam Dekker is no. 38

So, who are these scouts drooling over him?

[NersEllenson]

Kaminsky is not listed among the 10 centers on NBA draft express 2014.  Interestingly, on the list is Embiid no. 2 overall and Noah Voleh no. 7 overall from Indiana.

http://nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft

Kaminsky is not listed among the 2015 board either

http://nbadraft.net/2015mock_draft

Interestingly, Kevon Looney is no. 8 and Sam Dekker is no. 38

So, who are these scouts drooling over him?

Draft Express is usually a better prognosticator of these things...Kaminsky 22...I think Dekker is WAY overrated...good player...but don't see him being much of a pro...doesn't shoot it that well a la a Kyle Korver...pretty good athlete...but not elite athlete.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2015/

[WadeATKBurton]

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Did not say he was not, he is really good.  He had a epic game yesterday, no doubt.  And for a 3-star recruit that barely played his Freshman year, he improvement has been off the charts, the stuff of legends.  

But for you proclaim him "the best in college basketball" after one great game ... c'mon

Ok for centers .... a few weeks ago everyone here was saying Alec Brown of Greenbay was the best in the state.  If Kaminsky lays an egg next week and scores 5 points, is Brown back above him?

How about:

Mitch Mcgary of Michigan (when healthy)
Patric Young of Florida
Payne of Michigan State

I know, none of them had an epic game 12 hours ago, so they cannot be the best in college basketball.

And how about this:

December 7, 2013 MU at Madison

MU loses 70 - 64

Kaminsky, 24 minutes 11 points, 4 rebounds
Devante Gardner, 23 minutes, 16 points 3 rebounds.

Gardner outplayed him ... wait that was more than 3 weeks ago so it does not count.  Otherwise Gardner would be the best in college basketball.



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Man you definitely sound like a hater. How about you give credit where credit is due. I too think Kaminskybis the best Center in college right now. May not have thr best ceiling, but he IS the best.

[mattyv1908]

Very good player, but he had arguably his best came of his career last night and his four tournament games he's played significantly better than he did in the regular season.  I wouldn't annoint him the best center just yet.