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MUshrooms

Quote from: Heisenberg on March 28, 2014, 03:54:21 PM
I've heard this is the hold up.  Have others heard this?

Another internet rumor started! Nice!

klyrish


GoldenWarrior11

Theoretically, could our brand new president overrule him?

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: frozena pizza on March 28, 2014, 04:16:04 PM
So Dick Strong told you that Dick Strong does not like Ben Howland and you are looking here for confirmation that this is true?

Frozena works for Dick at Baraboo Captial ... It is actually Frozena that is running things threw Dick.  "Encouraging" Buzz to leave (Rob wanted him gone) and Frozena did not bless Howland.

Frozena actually runs MU basketball via Dick Strong.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Only if we pay him with theoretical money

Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 28, 2014, 04:25:59 PM
Theoretically, could our brand new president overrule him?

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 28, 2014, 04:25:59 PM
Theoretically, could our brand new president overrule him?

Dick has the checkbook

Goose

I would have to think someone high up does not want him. What appears as obvious choice to many on here appears to be met by Resistance at MU. Have to say I thought he was logical pick it no Shaka.

WadeATKBurton

Like I said earlier, if Ben was gonna be our next coach then he would've been hired a few days ago.

GooooMarquette

This is turning into a circus of epic proportions.

If we let Howland get away, whomever is responsible is an idiot.

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: Goose on March 28, 2014, 04:28:16 PM
I would have to think someone high up does not want him. What appears as obvious choice to many on here appears to be met by Resistance at MU. Have to say I thought he was logical pick it no Shaka.

MU has always gone with the up and coming younger guy.  They obviously have someone or multiple people ranked above Howland on their list.  Most likely, this person is still in the tournament.  Next week will be interesting after we have 12 teams ousted from the tourney.  Perhaps the rumor mill will pick up again, come Monday.  If not, then we can assume the target is in the final four.  

GoldenWarrior11

So, just to get things straight, there are "higher-ups" that do not like Ben Howland (who has consistently proven to be a winner and led teams to several Final Fours), and actually prefer a Brian Wardle or Cuonzo Martin (who has yet to prove to be a consistent winner/recruiter at higher levels)?

Excuse me while I go bang my face against the wall.   ::)

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 28, 2014, 04:32:17 PM
MU has always gone with the up and coming younger guy.  They obviously have someone or multiple people ranked above Howland on their list.  Most likely, this person is still in the tournament.  Next week will be interesting after we have 12 teams ousted from the tourney.  Perhaps the rumor mill will pick up again, come Monday.  If not, then we can assume the target is in the final four.  

Or the NIT!!!!

Schmidtyfactor

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Quote from: humanlung on March 28, 2014, 04:07:39 PM
Have you ever met Dick Strong????  I have.  Howland's an amateur if this is the yard stick.

Many odd stories. Legendary tales of him stopping meetings, calling in janitor to fix the tiny screws on the electrical covers so they all lined up the same way. Or the one where he interviewed an incoming manager and only talked about the guys shoes for the entire interview.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 28, 2014, 04:33:29 PM
So, just to get things straight, there are "higher-ups" that do not like Ben Howland (who has consistently proven to be a winner and led teams to several Final Fours), and actually prefer a Brian Wardle or Cuonzo Martin (who has yet to prove to be a consistent winner/recruiter at higher levels)?

Excuse me while I go bang my face against the wall.   ::)

Apparently so.  It's gonna get ugly around here pretty soon....

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: Schmidtyfactor on March 28, 2014, 04:35:17 PM
Many do stories. Legendary tales of him stopping meetings, calling in janitor to fix the tiny screws on the electrical covers so they all lined up the same way. Or the one where he interviewed an incoming manager and only talked about the guys shoes for the entire interview.

It would have been interesting to listen to Strong and Buzz have a conversation.  Something tells me that it would have been the most interesting conversation about shoe laces known to mankind. 

MarsupialMadness

Quote from: Schmidtyfactor on March 28, 2014, 04:35:17 PM
Many odd stories. Legendary tales of him stopping meetings, calling in janitor to fix the tiny screws on the electrical covers so they all lined up the same way. Or the one where he interviewed an incoming manager and only talked about the guys shoes for the entire interview.

I'd like to hear some more stories.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 28, 2014, 04:31:29 PM
This is turning into a circus of epic proportions.

If we let Howland get away, whomever is responsible is an idiot.

Actually, it's not.

If you take a moment and step outside the batshit insanity of Scoop, this coaching search gets no play in the public consciousness. I talked to a basketball coach last night here in Jersey and he didn't know Shaka was a possibility. People outside the fanbase rarely pay attention until a name is announced on the bottom line of a certain four letter network.

I'll tell you one circus of epic proportions people know about.......South Florida. The Bulls spent 11 days vetting and interviewing candidates only having to terminate the guy they settled on since he lied about a college degree. That's a clusterfuck.

avid1010

Quote from: Schmidtyfactor on March 28, 2014, 04:35:17 PM
Many do stories. Legendary tales of him stopping meetings, calling in janitor to fix the tiny screws on the electrical covers so they all lined up the same way. Or the one where he interviewed an incoming manager and only talked about the guys shoes for the entire interview.
yup...and not a guy who feels the need to play by the rules or cares about howland's personality...but there are no sources talking about what dick strong wants or doesn't want.  obviously something isn't perfect, but this "i have sources" crap is pathetic.  it's an easy guess that anyone who follows MU basketball can make...lots of people trying to act like their in the know, imho.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: Schmidtyfactor on March 28, 2014, 04:35:17 PM
Many do stories. Legendary tales of him stopping meetings, calling in janitor to fix the tiny screws on the electrical covers so they all lined up the same way. Or the one where he interviewed an incoming manager and only talked about the guys shoes for the entire interview.

How does one make a billion dollars?  Answer, by zigging when everyone else zags.  By going left (or right) when the world goes right (or left).  By doing these differently and taking the risk and willing to be lonely as no one thinks it will work.

So yes they are eccentric by nature ("eccentric" because they made a billion dollars, "nuts" if they do not).  He will make more money during that interview talking about shoes than some will make in a lifetime.  So if that is how he works, and his bank account has nine zeros, how can you argue with it?

Goose

I think main things against Howland is ability to recruit and relate to kids, his age, UCLA mess he was part of and wanting too much money probably. No idea if Strong or anyone is anti Howland but think if they wanted him it would be done already.

reinko


humanlung

Quote from: Schmidtyfactor on March 28, 2014, 04:35:17 PM
Many odd stories. Legendary tales of him stopping meetings, calling in janitor to fix the tiny screws on the electrical covers so they all lined up the same way. Or the one where he interviewed an incoming manager and only talked about the guys shoes for the entire interview.

I can confirm the screws on the switch plates as I was one of the people who would turn them off horizontal to see how long it would take to be discovered.  NEVER longer than one day.

Goose

Dick Strong should be in MU basketball Hall of Fame. He has made more happen than the two previous coaches combined.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Golden Avalanche on March 28, 2014, 04:39:07 PM
Actually, it's not.

If you take a moment and step outside the batcrap insanity of Scoop, this coaching search gets no play in the public consciousness. I talked to a basketball coach last night here in Jersey and he didn't know Shaka was a possibility. People outside the fanbase rarely pay attention until a name is announced on the bottom line of a certain four letter network.

I'll tell you one circus of epic proportions people know about.......South Florida. The Bulls spent 11 days vetting and interviewing candidates only having to terminate the guy they settled on since he lied about a college degree. That's a clusterunnatural carnal knowledge.

But after Howland publicly expressing interest in MU, if we end up with one of guys mentioned, it's going to leave plenty of people thinking MU is still "just a stepping stone" program.  Howland could change that image in a heartbeat.

Goose

Gooooo

Agreed on that. Cords said we are not stepping stone job and they need to hire to prove that.

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