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Author Topic: Why choose anyone other than Howland  (Read 9399 times)

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Why choose anyone other than Howland
« on: March 28, 2014, 11:54:33 AM »
If our goal is to make a splash hire (especially after the SS debacle), why would we consider hiring anyone other than Howland?

He's done nothing but win and recruit great talent.  I just don't get why we'd consider Martin and others over him. 

No one we're talking to outside of him can show potential recruits:
- 3 Final Four's
- 15 plus players sent to the NBA (most of them 1st round picks)


Can someone please tell me ?  It just makes zero sense to not pick him.

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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2014, 11:56:39 AM »
If our goal is to make a splash hire (especially after the SS debacle), why would we consider hiring anyone other than Howland?

He's done nothing but win and recruit great talent.  I just don't get why we'd consider Martin and others over him. 

No one we're talking to outside of him can show potential recruits:
- 3 Final Four's
- 15 plus players sent to the NBA (most of them 1st round picks)


Can someone please tell me ?  It just makes zero sense to not pick him.

I dont think you do.  However, I also dont think you want him to think he is the only candidate.  If so, his price goes through the roof. 
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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2014, 11:57:00 AM »
I hate to be the first to say it but if he aint our coach by now then IT AIN'T HAPPENING.

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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2014, 11:58:17 AM »
I hate to be the first to say it but if he aint our coach by now then IT AIN'T HAPPENING.


I think you are wrong.  Just yesterday MU lost out on Smart.  If they were going to go after Howland it likely just started today.
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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2014, 12:02:15 PM »

I think you are wrong.  Just yesterday MU lost out on Smart.  If they were going to go after Howland it likely just started today.

If it just started today, that also does not bode well for our chances...
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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2014, 12:02:46 PM »
My gut is there could be train of thought on his relating to today's players and style of play. That coupled with a high demand for money. Not sayin it cannot happen, just my thoughts.

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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2014, 12:03:48 PM »
Hope it's not Howland.    Much of his appeal was he won at UCLA.   Pretty easy to recruit to UCLA.   Can he recruit to Milwaukee (some say he did OK in Pitts).   At 56 does he have that fire to recruit hard that it will require?    Been described as not a players coach and not overly-liked in the coaching community?  Style of play not overly interesting as well to recruits or fans...

A lot of $$$ for what may initially be a splash hire that may not have the ROI down the road...

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but no to Wardle too - had to get that in there as well






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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2014, 12:04:34 PM »
If it just started today, that also does not bode well for our chances...

Why?  Did Uncle Ben sign somewhere else?  Did I miss the story where he interviewed somewhere else?  Did I miss the story that says MU is not interested in him.

Respect the process! :)
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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2014, 12:04:56 PM »
I hate to be the first to say it but if he aint our coach by now then IT AIN'T HAPPENING.
Wow. I thought we were over definitive uninformed statements.

So less than a week after Buzz leaves, Howland is out of the running because MU didn't act fast enough. Good lord.  

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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2014, 12:05:23 PM »

I think you are wrong.  Just yesterday MU lost out on Smart.  If they were going to go after Howland it likely just started today.

I have never been involved in higher a high-major basketball coach, but it would seem very imprudent to simply focus on one guy and not have multiple conversations going.  I have to imagine that the agents for all the potential candidates have a sense of where MU's head is at and how that impacts their client.

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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2014, 12:05:47 PM »
Wow. I thought we were over definitive uninformed statements.

So less than a week after Buzz leaves, Howland is out of the running because MU didn't act fast enough. Good lord.  

Exactly!
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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2014, 12:07:06 PM »
And by floating other names, we gain the advantage.  If we show too much interest, he will have us by the balls during negotiations.

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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2014, 12:07:26 PM »
Wow. I thought we were over definitive uninformed statements.

So less than a week after Buzz leaves, Howland is out of the running because MU didn't act fast enough. Good lord.  

Pretty sure atk13thst has proved time and again, he doesn't know much about college basketball or the marquette program.

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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2014, 12:10:13 PM »
Why?  Did Uncle Ben sign somewhere else?  Did I miss the story where he interviewed somewhere else?  Did I miss the story that says MU is not interested in him.

Respect the process! :)

Settle down.  I'm just saying that it wouldn't be a good sign if we ignored Ben for a week after he floated his name to the press immediately after Buzz left.
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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2014, 12:11:09 PM »
I have never been involved in higher a high-major basketball coach, but it would seem very imprudent to simply focus on one guy and not have multiple conversations going.  I have to imagine that the agents for all the potential candidates have a sense of where MU's head is at and how that impacts their client.
I agree.  However MU in the last few days has announced their president and their interim AD. All while courting Smart and anticipating hiring him.  I think its reasonable to assume they were busy.
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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2014, 12:12:12 PM »
Everything you say is 100% true.  He is the only choice.  No other candidate is fit to smell his farts.  End this mummer's farce and bring the True Coach to MU.

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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2014, 12:14:35 PM »
Pretty sure atk13thst has proved time and again, he doesn't know much about college basketball or the marquette program.

I think atk13thst has shown that he/she has an open mind and is willing to consider several different points of view.  The hallmarks of a supple mind.

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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2014, 12:17:24 PM »
Hope it's not Howland.    Much of his appeal was he won at UCLA.   Pretty easy to recruit to UCLA.   Can he recruit to Milwaukee (some say he did OK in Pitts).   At 56 does he have that fire to recruit hard that it will require?    Been described as not a players coach and not overly-liked in the coaching community?  Style of play not overly interesting as well to recruits or fans...

A lot of $$$ for what may initially be a splash hire that may not have the ROI down the road...

Source - my humble opinion :)

but no to Wardle too - had to get that in there as well

Yeah, he did "OK" at Pitt.  Took the program from BE mid-level to 2 BETs and 2 Sweet Sixteens in his third and fourth years.  I'd take that kind of "OK."

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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2014, 12:28:31 PM »
I agree.  However MU in the last few days has announced their president and their interim AD. All while courting Smart and anticipating hiring him.  I think its reasonable to assume they were busy.
No, they were letting Smart play them.
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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2014, 12:34:13 PM »
No, they were letting Smart play them.

However it played out.  They were busy.
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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2014, 12:46:50 PM »
Ben doesn't pass the sniff test

Not saying it won't happen. But I can understand why the administration is hesitant.
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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2014, 12:47:58 PM »
Stupidity.

Blunt force stupidity.

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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2014, 12:50:26 PM »
Ben doesn't pass the sniff test

What do back-to-back-to-back Final Fours smell like? I'd imagine like bacon, which certainly passes my sniff test.

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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2014, 12:56:17 PM »
What do back-to-back-to-back Final Fours smell like? I'd imagine like bacon, which certainly passes my sniff test.

Calipari has a national championship. Does he pass your sniff test?
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Re: Why choose anyone other than Howland
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2014, 01:13:46 PM »
I hate to be the first to say it but if he aint our coach by now then IT AIN'T HAPPENING.

You add nothing to this board.

Pretty sure atk13thst has proved time and again, he doesn't know much about college basketball or the marquette program.

No kidding. 
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