Possible Coaching Candidates Based on Facts and Stats

[Warriors12]

Obviously, there are a lot of coaches names being thrown around as possibilities:  Holland, Martin, Hopkins, Wardle, Bennett, and Miller to name a few. 

A lot of opinions are thrown out who should be our next coach, but I'd like this posting to express your opinion with some empirical evidence as support (i.e. recruiting class ranks each year).   I know there are a lot of very knowledgeable fans of basketball here.  Who should be our next coach based upon more than just, "Hey, I like that guy as a coach," but some good reasons as to why they should be here at Marquette. 

[BenCat12]

Ben F'n Howland.  He should have been the target from the beginning.  Final Four's, Conference Championships, NBA superstars... 
His resume is better than the rest of the potential candidates combined, even if you include Shaka "Houdini" Smart.

[T.V. Diener 34]

1.) Shaka Smart
2.) Ben Howland
3.) Ben Howland
4.) Ben Howland
5.) Ben Howland

Resume on Ben speaks for itself

[WadeATKBurton]

Martin is a good coach. GREAT recruiter. Almost reeled in Looney too.

[Warriors12]

Ben F'n Howland.  He should have been the target from the beginning.  Final Four's, Conference Championships, NBA superstars... 
His resume is better than the rest of the potential candidates combined, even if you include Shaka "Houdini" Smart.

Holland does have a lot of players he coached that have been in the NBA, and for me, that is a strong argument for him...proven recruiter (though one could argue he also had UCLA to help and could that translate to MU).

Players in the NBA[edit]

Ben Howland has coached a number of players who later played professionally in the National Basketball Association (NBA)
Trevor Ariza
Dijon Thompson
Cedric Bozeman
Ryan Hollins
Jordan Farmar
Arron Afflalo
Russell Westbrook
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
Kevin Love
Jrue Holiday
Darren Collison
Malcolm Lee
Tyler Honeycutt
Shabazz Muhammad

[brandx]

I think we overestimate the coaches previous recruiting classes in the process. Coaches at mid-majors aren't going to get 5-star players and rarely, if ever, a 4-star player.

That does not mean they can't recruit. Look at Shaka, Marshall, Miller (Dayton), etc. Those aren't schools that will get many - if any - 4 or 5 star guys. but they know how to recruit for their systems and moving to MU will give them a chance to go after higher ranked recruits.

[MUDPT]

One of the candidates that is still playing this weekend has his team ranked 16th in Offensive Efficiency and 15th in Defensive Efficiency in the country.  He coaches at Tennessee. It was ludicrous for him to be on the hot seat.  

[GooooMarquette]

Ben Howland.  2 BETs and 2 Sweet Sixteens in four years at Pitt.  4 PAC-12 titles and 3 Final Fours at UCLA.  14 players to the NBA.

Ya think Diamond would be interested in hearing Howland talk about Kevin Love?

[Jet915]

One of the candidates that is still playing this weekend has his team ranked 16th in Offensive Efficiency and 15th in Defensive Efficiency in the country.  He coaches at Tennessee. It was ludicrous for him to be on the hot seat.  

One tournament in 6 years and it was an 11 seed? 

[BenCat12]

I don't dislike Martin, I just don't know if he has the credentials.  He did a good job turning around Missouri St.  and did a nice job in the second half of this season with Tennessee.  Is that enough?  I guess if we pissed off Howland enough with the Shaka "Houdini" Smart non-sense, Martin would be a good plan b.  

[nyg]

Recruiting in college basketball is the key.  You can't draft players.  Coaches who recruit and get the best players, leading to more wins, games on national TV and the ultimate goal of the kids to get to the NBA.  The resume of a coach can persuade the kid and his parents to a large degree.  Diamond Stones of the world are not going to Indiana State.

The head coach could be an X and O's type guy, but brings in the best assistant recruiters with ties to the national AAU programs.  Or the coach could be a great recruiter and brings in assistants who are well versed in X and O's.  There are very few coaches who do both.  

[chapman]

Ben F'n Howland.  He should have been the target from the beginning.  Final Four's, Conference Championships, NBA superstars... 
His resume is better than the rest of the potential candidates combined, even if you include Shaka "Houdini" Smart.

/thread

[Warriors12]

Thoughts on Hopkins?  He was recently ranked by his peers as the #2 best assistant for recruiting by an ESPN poll.  My #1 reason we either wouldn't get him or he may not be a good idea, is if Bonheim retires or is going to retire soon, he makes sense to be the next successor.  

[Fred Garvin]

Give me the best recruiting coach out there.They say the kids come because of the coach,can't get top talent,if they don't want to come.

[MUDPT]

One tournament in 6 years and it was an 11 seed?  

Do you think they should have been an 11 seed?  They have won their tournament games by 13, 19, and 20 points (against an underrated 11, overrated 6 and a 14 that beat Duke).  They are currently ranked 6 by Pomeroy and by his metrics they are a favorite to beat Michigan by a point tomorrow.  Howland hasn't had a team this good since 2008 (according to Pomeroy).  I'm not saying that he should be the choice, just think he's really underrated.  The other thing I worry about is Painter has not been great since Hummel, Moore and Johnson left.  Purdue's job may be open soon (after next season) as well.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Not sure if he will even be considered, but I really like Josh Pastner (not even sure he'd consider a move).

Age: 36 (I personally think younger coaches relate better with players).
Head Coaching Record: 130-44 (.747%)
Championships:C-USA Tournament Championship (2011, 2012, 2013), C-USA Regular Season Championship (2012, 2013)
Awards: C-USA Coach of the Year (2013)
Professional Players Coached:  Elliot Williams, Will Barton, D.J. Stephens, Adonis Thomas, Will Coleman, Willie Kemp.
Recruiting Stats (Since 2009): 5 5*, 7 4*, 7 3*, 2 2*

[Jet915]

Do you think they should have been an 11 seed?  They have won their tournament games by 13, 19, and 20 points (against an underrated 11, overrated 6 and a 14 that beat Duke).  They are currently ranked 6 by Pomeroy and by his metrics they are a favorite to beat Michigan by a point tomorrow.  Howland hasn't had a team this good since 2008 (according to Pomeroy).  I'm not saying that he should be the choice, just think he's really underrated.  The other thing I worry about is Painter has not been great since Hummel, Moore and Johnson left.  Purdue's job may be open soon (after next season) as well.

Howland has been successful multiple years.  Martin has been successful one year and don't count the year he won the MVC with Missouri State, they didn't make the NCAAs.

[savwa]

They need to lock down Howland and move forward.

[Wojo'sMojo]

How about Orlando Antigua? 40 years old and Kentuckys top assistant. Know that he has lots of recruiting ties everywhere and is an up and comer. I think we need a great recruiter to continue to raise our profile.

[Warriors12]

That's an interesting suggestion (Josh Pastner) that I have not seen anyone else mention previously.  He had a top 5 recruiting class in 2013.  Consistent NCAA tourneys.  Interesting stat...he was something like 0-13 versus top 25 teams up until recently.  Big East an upgrade for sure over the AAC especially after Louisville is gone, so an incentive to get him to come over.  Why has his name not been thrown out there more often?

[4everwarriors]

Would MU hire Pastner?

[chapman]

Would MU hire Pastner?

You want Aki Collins to make a return, eh?


Would take Pastner...and Aki.

[Marquette Fan in WI]

Did I miss some news with Gregg Marshall?  He's been to as many final fours as ss. His team won 35 games and he was coach of the year.

[NotAnAlum]

I suggested him when Buzz first left.  I do think he makes a lot $$$ already.  MU could offer more but probably not that much more.

[Jet915]

Did I miss some news with Gregg Marshall?  He's been to as many final fours as ss. His team won 35 games and he was coach of the year.

There is a thread on him.  He's supposedly a douche.  Buzz type persona, I think that's probably why the admin is not interested.