Jeff Goodman's ESPN Insider post on Marquette

[chapman]

You guys are all sleeping on Martin. I think he would do great at Marquette.

Amateur hour.  Everything Cords pointlessly spewed about this program being worth a damn yesterday will be proven false.

[Aughnanure]

Has there been any legitimate recent talk/rumors lately about Howland and MU? It all kind of died down Monday, with rumors that he pulled out or his asking price was too high, but we don't know if that was all just conjecture.

I guess Goodman's piece counts, but I would like to hear more talk about Howland soon.

[MUMountin]

If anything, wouldn't that bolster his position? We swung and missed on our presumed top candidate.

It depends on how emotional/proud the guy is.  And, how much of the rumors he chose to believe.  

If he's an all business type of guy, then I'd say yes, this just solidified his negotiating position.  Rumor is that after Howland gave us his initial demand, we said that if we were going to spend that type of money, let's take a shot at Shaka.  Since that fell through, Howland now knows that we're willing to pay a certain amount for the right candidate.  And, after Shaka, he may be the best of the litter out there currently.  So, he may as well hold out for whatever that amount is (if he knows it), or close to his original ask.

Just to be clear, I haven't seen anything credible that suggests that Howland actually has moved on/feels this way.  As has been stated, if he's interested in jumping back into coaching, there aren't a lot of other great alternative jobs at this point.  So, even knowing that he was our #2 (or #1b) choice, might not make a difference.  Wake is really the only other significant contender, IMO, right now, and that program is in much more of a rebuilding mode after Bzdelik.

[WadeATKBurton]

Amateur hour.  Everything Cords pointlessly spewed about this program being worth a damn yesterday will be proven false.

Your right. We are not experts but isnt it what this board is for? For us fans to have a voice rather anyone/u listen or not

[ecompt]

It appears that Howland has a choice: Accept what MU is offering or say no and then take $1 million less per year somewhere else.

[Pakuni]

Amateur hour.  Everything Cords pointlessly spewed about this program being worth a damn yesterday will be proven false.

Teal?
Please?

[Logi4three]

You guys are all sleeping on Martin. I think he would do great at Marquette.

The more I hear, the more I agree with you.  I like where we have been going the last couple of years and think he can keep it up (and keep it together).  Doesn't sound like he had a real fair shot at Tenn the way Pearl exited and hung around.  

[JakeBarnes]

Amateur hour.  Everything Cords pointlessly spewed about this program being worth a damn yesterday will be proven false.

How quickly we all turn!

[Eldon]

I thought I made it clear in my post that I believed there was a possibility Shaka engaged in discussion. My point was that I believed his intention all along was to gain leverage...nothing more.

Again, though, your post begs the question: why should I weigh the validity of your sources over mine? Just because you say so? The bolded part makes no sense. My train of thought assumes the status quo. That has been the safest bet the whole time here.

You posted the other day: "Also just confirmed Shaka!!!!" Obviously, that didn't turn out to be true. Why should I trust that the people you have been speaking with are in the know? Your position assumes quite a bit more than mine.

Anybody else really annoyed by this self-important know-it-all? The audacity. 

Listen, kid.  You think you are important enough that your "source" would fill you in on something that would potentially have negative ramifications (no pun intended) for a nationally-ranked, high-research university?  Get real.  Running into your microeconomics TA at the Qdoba on campus and him telling you that the pep rally will be starting an hour earlier than scheduled hardly constitutes inside info.

Who is on this board?  Lawyers, doctors, professors, officers of the US military, former NBA players, well-connected businessmen in the Milwaukee area, some of whom serve on boards of Fortune companies.  Shall I continue?  Some of these people were gracious enough to share information with all of us.  Now if that information makes you uncomfortable because it doesn't coincide with what the janitor at the Siegel Center told you, then scamper off back to the VCU board and continue your peddling about how we here at MUScoop are a bunch of utterly misinformed dolts who haven't a clue about your beloved Papa-Shaka.  I'm sure they will welcome those stories with open arms, a bunch of snickering, and recounts of the wild, adventurous tales of the trolling that they did on Wake Forest's board.

[chapman]

Teal?
Please?

After telling us how strong our program is yesterday, if Cuonzo Martin is the best hire gramps can come up with he should just go back to Idaho now.

[4everwarriors]

Martin gives y'all wood? Really? Since we peed down our leg with Smart, I'd advise takin' our sweet ass time in pickin' the next target. Clearly don't see the negative in this strategy.

[JakeBarnes]

Anybody else really annoyed by this self-important know-it-all? The audacity. 

Listen, kid.  You think you are important enough that your "source" would fill you in on something that would potentially have negative ramifications (no pun intended) for a nationally-ranked, high-research university?  Get real.  Running into your microeconomics TA at the Qdoba on campus and him telling you that the pep rally will be starting an hour earlier than scheduled hardly constitutes inside info.

Who is on this board?  Lawyers, doctors, professors, officers of the US military, former NBA players, well-connected businessmen in the Milwaukee area, some of whom serve on boards of Fortune companies.  Shall I continue?  Some of these people were gracious enough to share information with all of us.  Now if that information makes you uncomfortable because it doesn't coincide with what the janitor at the Siegel Center told you, then scamper off back to the VCU board and continue your peddling about how we here at MUScoop are a bunch of utterly misinformed dolts who haven't a clue about your beloved Papa-Shaka.  I'm sure they will welcome those stories with open arms, a bunch of snickering, and recounts of the wild, adventurous tales of the trolling that they did on Wake Forest's board.

As an attorney, I will be the first to admit that I am likely full of crap.

[Milwarriorkee]

Anybody else really annoyed by this self-important know-it-all? The audacity. 

Listen, kid.  You think you are important enough that your "source" would fill you in on something that would potentially have negative ramifications (no pun intended) for a nationally-ranked, high-research university?  Get real.  Running into your microeconomics TA at the Qdoba on campus and him telling you that the pep rally will be starting an hour earlier than scheduled hardly constitutes inside info.

Who is on this board?  Lawyers, doctors, professors, officers of the US military, former NBA players, well-connected businessmen in the Milwaukee area, some of whom serve on boards of Fortune companies.  Shall I continue?  Some of these people were gracious enough to share information with all of us.  Now if that information makes you uncomfortable because it doesn't coincide with what the janitor at the Siegel Center told you, then scamper off back to the VCU board and continue your peddling about how we here at MUScoop are a bunch of utterly misinformed dolts who haven't a clue about your beloved Papa-Shaka.  I'm sure they will welcome those stories with open arms, a bunch of snickering, and recounts of the wild, adventurous tales of the trolling that they did on Wake Forest's board.

Scoop Board > MU BOT?

[chapman]

That wonderful post that was already quoted a few times above.

pwned

[humanlung]

BEN F-ING HOWLAND!!!!!!

[Wisco]

Anybody else really annoyed by this self-important know-it-all? The audacity.  

Listen, kid.  You think you are important enough that your "source" would fill you in on something that would potentially have negative ramifications (no pun intended) for a nationally-ranked, high-research university?  Get real.  Running into your microeconomics TA at the Qdoba on campus and him telling you that the pep rally will be starting an hour earlier than scheduled hardly constitutes inside info.

Who is on this board?  Lawyers, doctors, professors, officers of the US military, former NBA players, well-connected businessmen in the Milwaukee area, some of whom serve on boards of Fortune companies.  Shall I continue?  Some of these people were gracious enough to share information with all of us.  Now if that information makes you uncomfortable because it doesn't coincide with what the janitor at the Siegel Center told you, then scamper off back to the VCU board and continue your peddling about how we here at MUScoop are a bunch of utterly misinformed dolts who haven't a clue about your beloved Papa-Shaka.  I'm sure they will welcome those stories with open arms, a bunch of snickering, and recounts of the wild, adventurous tales of the trolling that they did on Wake Forest's board.

Wow. The vitriol on here is unreal right now. You completely missed the point of my post. I was talking about simple logic. Your response is nothing more than an exaggerated appeal to authority.

At the end of the day, it seems as though the information I received was correct, as Shaka did not come to Marquette. Can't say the same about the "sources" on this board.

I'm hoping MU makes a solid hire here. Will make the next few years all the more enjoyable as a fan.

[Groin_pull]

It appears that Howland has a choice: Accept what MU is offering or say no and then take $1 million less per year somewhere else.

Or skip all this college basketball craziness and keep leaving high off UCLA's buyout.

[brandx]

Per Rivals, both Hill and JJJ were offered by Tenn.  So, Martin is familiar with these two.  

As was Diamond Stone.

[ecompt]

Or skip all this college basketball craziness and keep leaving high off UCLA's buyout.

Yes., that is an option, but it appears he really wants to get back into coaching.

[thekahoona]

Your right. We are not experts but isnt it what this board is for? For us fans to have a voice rather anyone/u listen or not

Only if your post count is high enough.

[WadeATKBurton]

Only if your post count is high enough.

Right..its funny but true!

[umwram]

Anybody else really annoyed by this self-important know-it-all? The audacity. 

Listen, kid.  You think you are important enough that your "source" would fill you in on something that would potentially have negative ramifications (no pun intended) for a nationally-ranked, high-research university?  Get real.  Running into your microeconomics TA at the Qdoba on campus and him telling you that the pep rally will be starting an hour earlier than scheduled hardly constitutes inside info.

Who is on this board?  Lawyers, doctors, professors, officers of the US military, former NBA players, well-connected businessmen in the Milwaukee area, some of whom serve on boards of Fortune companies.  Shall I continue?  Some of these people were gracious enough to share information with all of us.  Now if that information makes you uncomfortable because it doesn't coincide with what the janitor at the Siegel Center told you, then scamper off back to the VCU board and continue your peddling about how we here at MUScoop are a bunch of utterly misinformed dolts who haven't a clue about your beloved Papa-Shaka.  I'm sure they will welcome those stories with open arms, a bunch of snickering, and recounts of the wild, adventurous tales of the trolling that they did on Wake Forest's board.