Sandy Cohen Released from NLI

[keefe]

The problem is that the last time (Crean's departure) Buzz rebuilt quickly with JC players.  If JC players (and for that matter other recruits viewed as risks) are off the table we could be in for a longer dry spell.  A season like 2014 doesn't hurt us much if we quickly recover.  A few more no bid seasons and the momentum of the last 8 years could be gone.  Got to stay relevant as someone said earlier.

The problem is not JC's. The issue is players who do not meet admission requirements or, worse, have significant character issues.

[NavinRJohnson]

Current recruits could not be less important in this whole thing. There's been a significant change. Some may want to change their minds, and they should, its ok. You don't rush to hire a coach to hang on to 2 or 3 kids that may or may no turn out to be good players. If he goes elsewhere, he goes elsewhere. His scholarship will go to someone else. Who gives a damn?

[Tums Festival]

According to Thompson's father, Williams had eyed Trevor when Trevor was in prep school and Williams was coaching Marquette. Thompson's father said that at the time, Williams told Trevor's prep school coaches that Trevor was "soft."

So "he calls Trevor out basically in front of his teammates and says if you want a release, I'll give it to you now," Ryan Thompson said. "It was 50-50 going into that and that just basically nailed the coffin."

Way to be a dick, Buzz.

[ATLmarquettefan]

meh, looking at his hs high school, looked like he was going to be erik williams 2.0

[keefe]

Way to be a dick, Buzz.

But it's all about relationships

[LastWarrior]

45 min ago Dodds posted on TOS that Cohen has NOT been released from his NLI.  Let's hope the kid waits to talk with the new coach before deciding.

[GB Warrior]

Harsh words.  Can't we have less embarrassing fans?

You're right. It's not fair to Sandy Cohen. Just extremely disappointing since, if there was one player I pegged as an MU guy no matter what, it was him. I really do wish him the best, so long as his release doesn't give him the option of VT. Just hard to see the fabric of the next few years unravel, especially for those of us that didn't truly experience the immediate chaos of the post-Crean aftermath.

[LON]

You're right. It's not fair to Sandy Cohen. Just extremely disappointing since, if there was one player I pegged as an MU guy no matter what, it was him. I really do wish him the best, so long as his release doesn't give him the option of VT. Just hard to see the fabric of the next few years unravel, especially for those of us that didn't truly experience the immediate chaos of the post-Crean aftermath.

You make no sense.

[muwarrior69]

Remember when Crean did that in 2008 and people here lost their minds. 

Yep! ...still lost, looking and unable to find it.

[4everwarriors]

None of Buzz's incomin' class will show up

[Tugg Speedman]

None of Buzz's incomin' class will show up

Same thing happened when Crean left.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Same thing happened when Crean left.

Otule & Erik Williams stayed in the fold. What that means to me is that we have 6 years of Satchel Pierce to look forward to!!

[Tugg Speedman]

Otule & Erik Williams stayed in the fold. What that means to me is that we have 6 years of Satchel Pierce to look forward to!!

Hold this discussion for a week or so and let's see how things work out.

Changing head coaches means change for everyone, VT even lost a player because Buzz is coming.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Hold this discussion for a week or so and let's see how things work out.

Changing head coaches means change for everyone, VT even lost a player because Buzz is coming.

I get it man, it was a joke.

[ecompt]

Same thing happened when Crean left.

Difference is, Crean didn't have the class the phony had recruited.

[nyg]

Difference is, Crean didn't have the class the phony had recruited.

Can't believe all of the recruits will de-commit.  With Harris, who did not sign, that's five.

Harris - gone
Cohen - who knows about the tweet and release statement
Hill
Shayock
Pierce

When Crean left, he was replaced by Buzz. Nick Williams was dedicated to Crean, no question.  Taylor was influenced by his HS Coach Hurley, who basically said, "Who the heck is Buzz Williams?" and bye-bye.

If Howland, Marshall or another noted coach is hired, at least the recruit will have knowledge of the coach and maybe play an integral part in the decision.  

[Pakuni]

Difference is, Crean didn't have the class the phony had recruited.

Don't know about that.
If anyone in this class has a better college career than Tyshawn Taylor, I'll be surprised.
Point plankn.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Don't know about that.
If anyone in this class has a better college career than Tyshawn Taylor, I'll be surprised.
Point plankn.

I'd put money on Med Hill

[Pakuni]

I'd put money on Med Hill

OK. I'll put you down for having Ahmed Hill as a second-team All-American (or better) and represent the U.S. in the U-19 World Championships.

[Jay Bee]

 Jude 1:10

[Silkk the Shaka]

OK. I'll put you down for having Ahmed Hill as a second-team All-American (or better) and represent the U.S. in the U-19 World Championships.

Two political honors are not how I would judge a college career. Regardless, yes, I believe Med Hill will have a better college career than Tyshawn Taylor.

[willie warrior]

Why would Chew stay on a sinking ship? We lose his recruits, this is bottom-feeder A-10 school the next two years.

Chew is tied to Buzz. he can't be blamed for following him. A new coach will want to bring in his people. Chew wants to preserve his job. Hope he enjoys the coal country.

[willie warrior]

You would figure MU would say, wait until you meet with our new coach, etc., then we can discuss it.  Makes no sense unless the kid signed up to play specifically for Buzz and not MU.  If Ahmed Hill goes, then it is bad.

So far:

McKay gone
Harris gone
Cohen gone

McKay may be much smarter than we all credited him for. He will be jamming baskets for the Mayor in Ames. Hoiberg is building a nice dynasty there.

[willie warrior]

Stay calm, fella's. Let everything settle out. Who knows maybe new coach will be glad he opted out.

The kid likely is talented, and it is sad to see this. But it is the reality fallout of Buzz's idiotic move.
If we can get a good coach and MU is Cohen's dream school, then hopefully we can get him to re-sign. But it is his choice.

In fact, it may be good PR what MU did. If he was told no, we won't release you until the new guy talks to you, that might just piss him and his family off more.

Thank you El Bozo "I'm outta Here" Williams"

[Silkk the Shaka]

Chew is tied to Buzz. he can't be blamed for following him. A new coach will want to bring in his people. Chew wants to preserve his job. Hope he enjoys the coal country.

Fairly certain that aside from the fat paycheck we threw at him, Marquette's appeal to Chew was that he loves Chicago and it was even closer to home for him than Champaign, IL. Blacksburg may not be all that appealing to him, and if the new coach wants him to stay I could see him being convinced. He's the only one I'd assign a non-zero probability to in that department though.