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Sandy Cohen Released from NLI

Started by GooooMarquette, March 22, 2014, 08:53:47 PM

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Pakuni

Quote from: ecompt on March 22, 2014, 09:52:33 PM
Why would Chew stay on a sinking ship? We lose his recruits, this is bottom-feeder A-10 school the next two years.

Might as well fold up the program.

MUUWUWM

Remember that Buzz on the CBS interview said that he called all the recruits and had a chance to talk..I am sure he stated his case the way he say it.

I am sure that Cohen still believed in him and he probally has read all the MU message boards and decided MU was not his kind of school anymore.

chapman

Quote from: Class71 on March 22, 2014, 10:03:28 PM
Let's not panic folks. The world has not come to an end. Let's see who the new coach is and the players he selects. Did anyone think these freshman were going to play under Buzz as freshman? It is time we get a coach for the next level and it works out. Have some faith that MU is more than one coach.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: MUUWUWM on March 22, 2014, 10:10:35 PM
Remember that Buzz on the CBS interview said that he called all the recruits and had a chance to talk..I am sure he stated his case the way he say it.

I am sure that Cohen still believed in him and he probally has read all the MU message boards and decided MU was not his kind of school anymore.

Remember when Crean did that in 2008 and people here lost their minds. 

keefe

Quote from: MUUWUWM on March 22, 2014, 10:10:35 PM
I am sure that Cohen still believed in him and he probally has read all the MU message boards and decided MU was not his kind of school anymore.

Well, then he is probably not right for Marquette, then. Not a tragedy by any stretch.


Death on call

novak43

Can everyone just take a second to breathe, our two top 50 recruits, duane (fr) and deonte have already said they will remain, id bet that fischer (another top 50) will also stay, his decision to come here seemed to be more homesickness, rather than buzz. I can't imagine mayo leaving before his senior year.  Still just over one day removed from the situation. There are still a lot of dominoes to fall, but lets not start making sensationalist statements comparing us to depaul.

novak43

Buzz recruited players that suited his style of basketball, we have no idea who our next coach is going to be and in turn don't know his style of basketball, it would be a mistake for the program to hire a head coach just to make their incoming recruiting class/current players happy, they need to think long term for the program, my hope is that they look for someone who looks at marquette as the destination rather than a stop on the way to their destination

BenCat12

Quote from: chapman on March 22, 2014, 10:11:03 PM
Agree.  And we already have a start - if given the pick of two players on the roster that we'd want to return, it's probably Burton and Duane, the two who have already let us know they're committed to MU.  Still a few more coaching dominoes to fall which could cause decommits in the '14 class, still graduate transfers to consider, etc.  Really don't see where the depressive panic is coming from.
I think it comes from the fact that there is no leadership in place.  If the leadership was in place finding a coach wouldn't be as big of a deal.  The problem is there seems to be no stability.  Even if they hire Howland, which would be a good hire in my opinion, we still don't know if he will be here for the long haul or if he will mesh with future leadership.  I love that Duane and Deonte are committed to the university but it will be tough to win if they are all that remains.  I believe the entire 2014 class will be gone.  I trust the alumni and boosters to always make Marquette a successful basketball program, but the leadership needs to be set, and stay that way for a long time, to ensure success.

Coleman

#58
Recruits leave when coaches change. It happens. We aren't going to keep everyone. Cohen won't be the last.

We'll be fine.

NotAnAlum

Who at MU is making the decision to grant these releases?  Why the rush?  Why not just tell the kid that we are working out a plan to handle the releases, they may be conditioned or that may not, we will get this done in x weeks.  At least by doing that you hold off the feeding frenzy that will occur when these guys are back on the market until hopefully we have named a coach.
Didn't we hold up the LOI releases when Crean left until Buzz was at least named.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: NotAnAlum on March 22, 2014, 10:31:20 PM
Who at MU is making the decision to grant these releases?  Why the rush?  Why not just tell the kid that we are working out a plan to handle the releases, they may be conditioned or that may not, we will get this done in x weeks.  At least by doing that you hold off the feeding frenzy that will occur when these guys are back on the market until hopefully we have named a coach.
Didn't we hold up the LOI releases when Crean left until Buzz was at least named.

Some were released very quickly, others like Tyshawn were kept around to see if Buzz could salvage them.

keefe

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 22, 2014, 10:32:47 PM
Some were released very quickly

Are you speaking of when Crean sh1tcanned Nick Williams from IIII?


Death on call

🏀

Hours later and nothing from Marquette...

Sandy hasn't been released. Guessing...

mr.MUskie

Quote from: PTM on March 22, 2014, 10:54:36 PM
Hours later and nothing from Marquette...

Sandy hasn't been released. Guessing...


It is Saturday.

Litehouse

IWBs board says Cohen has not been released, and it was a misunderstanding. He may eventually get released, but isn't yet.

🏀


Tums Festival

#66
I find it kinda funny people keep saying there's no leadership at Marquette. Fr. Wild was president for 15 years and is continuing to provide guidance until a permanent president is named. Cords was AD for 25 years and still has Marquette's best interests at heart. There are plenty of schools that change presidents and ADs without any coaching exodus. It's WE ARE MARQUETTE, not WE ARE PRESIDENT X or ATHLETIC DIRECTOR Y.
"Every day ends with a Tums festival!"

Fred Garvin

Sandy would be great to have,but if he doesn't want to be here so be it,A Hill is by far the most important recruit for the next class.I live in the fox valley and have seen Sandy play

MU82

I wouldn't be stunned if we lost all the recruits. That happens pretty often after a coaching change.

I wish it wasn't so. But I don't plan to get on a ledge over something I can't control.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

keefe

Quote from: Heavy Gear on March 22, 2014, 11:05:38 PM
I find it kinda funny people keep saying there's no leadership at Marquette. Fr. Wild was president for 15 years and is continuing to provide leadership until a permanent president is named. Cords was AD for 25 years and still has Marquette's best interests at heart. There are plenty of schools that change presidents and ADs without any coaching exodus. It's WE ARE MARQUETTE, not WE ARE PRESIDENT X or ATHLETIC DIRECTOR Y.

Exactly. We have two of the best possible men sitting in the most important seats. I am confident they have the full confidence of the Marquette Board. Their successors will understand and endorse any decisions these two have made or they wouldn't be worthy replacements.


Death on call

Wisco

Looks like we aren't the only program losing players due to Buzz:

http://www.roanoke.com/sports/columns_and_blogs/blogs/courtside/updated-blog-trevor-thompson-to-transfer/article_2bb7922a-b1ec-11e3-ac3e-0017a43b2370.html

QuoteAccording to Thompson's father, Williams had eyed Trevor when Trevor was in prep school and Williams was coaching Marquette. Thompson's father said that at the time, Williams told Trevor's prep school coaches that Trevor was "soft."

QuoteSo "he calls Trevor out basically in front of his teammates and says if you want a release, I'll give it to you now," Ryan Thompson said. "It was 50-50 going into that and that just basically nailed the coffin."

BenCat12

Quote from: keefe on March 22, 2014, 11:08:59 PM
Exactly. We have two of the best possible men sitting in the most important seats. I am confident they have the full confidence of the Marquette Board. Their successors will understand and endorse any decisions these two have made or they wouldn't be worthy replacements.
Right, we do, but for how long?  That is the problem.  Nothing says the replacements won't get an ego of their own and want to do things "their way" and hire "their guy."  Nobody likes it, but there is uncertainty. 

muwarrior97

Quote from: Heavy Gear on March 22, 2014, 08:58:57 PM
Thought Marquette was his dream school?
Guess the dream is dead :o
#RGV #ReturnTheWarriorMindset

NotAnAlum

Quote from: MU82 on March 22, 2014, 11:07:54 PM
I wouldn't be stunned if we lost all the recruits. That happens pretty often after a coaching change.

I wish it wasn't so. But I don't plan to get on a ledge over something I can't control.

The problem is that the last time (Crean's departure) Buzz rebuilt quickly with JC players.  If JC players (and for that matter other recruits viewed as risks) are off the table we could be in for a longer dry spell.  A season like 2014 doesn't hurt us much if we quickly recover.  A few more no bid seasons and the momentum of the last 8 years could be gone.  Got to stay relevant as someone said earlier.

Rockmic87