Seton Hall Beats Nova!!!

[GoldenWarrior11]

3 Big East games (thus far) have been decided by a total of 6 points.

That has to be good for the executives over at Fox...

[wardle2wade]

Huh, look at that. Twice this postseason a team that went 0-2 to another team in the regular season won the 3rd game. How funny...

If that holds true for the rest of the way, DePaul will win the champ over Seton Hall.  As we all expected.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

If that holds true for the rest of the way, DePaul will win the champ over Seton Hall.  As we all expected.

Not saying its fool proof but there is some validity to it.

[wardle2wade]

Not saying its fool proof but there is some validity to it.

Completely agree.

[CreightonWarrior]

If that holds true for the rest of the way, DePaul will win the champ over Seton Hall.  As we all expected.

Those odds would have to be better than that guy that bet Auburn to win the national championship

[muwarrior97]

Note to Buzz - whatever catering gave Seton Hall and DePaul, order that too

[chapman]

Not saying its fool proof but there is some validity to it.

Historically it only happens something like 30% of the time if a team wins the first two.  So 2.7% chance of going 3/3.  Which is actually higher than our auto-bid chances (1.85%) entering the day.

[mug644]

Speaking of which, Indiana got bounced in the 8-9 game by Illinois.  Possible NIT matchup?  That will give the game some juice for us.  Hopefully the point is moot as MU surprises and takes the BET.

Seeing IU get beat got me wondering if they might actually be out of the NIT. 17-15, 7-11 conference. Yes, they have a fan base, but I'm not sure that record is so strong.

[4everwarriors]

Yeah, but T-Cubed has connections and is related to the Harbaughs. Plus he's coachin' at one those iconic, top 5 programs of all time, kinda schools, aina?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Seeing IU get beat got me wondering if they might actually be out of the NIT. 17-15, 7-11 conference. Yes, they have a fan base, but I'm not sure that record is so strong.

Just to provide some history....last year, St. John's 16-15, Providence 17-14, Washington 18-15, Florida State 18-15, Stanford 18-14, Baylor 18-14, etc, etc all played in the NIT.  

[Oldgym]

Nova's loss makes makes Becky a #1 seed for the time being.

[DoggyDaddy]

Becky does not deserve a one seed.   

[mug644]

Just to provide some history....last year, St. John's 16-15, Providence 17-14, Washington 18-15, Florida State 18-15, Stanford 18-14, Baylor 18-14, etc, etc all played in the NIT.  

Point well taken. I can't imagine them being left out.

[NavinRJohnson]

Becky does not deserve a one seed.   

Somebody has to get the last one. They stack up just as well as the other candidates (Villanova, Syracuse, Duke, maybe Kansas).

[KenoshaWarrior]

Nova's loss makes makes Becky a #1 seed for the time being.

Why, they also lost their last game played, and chances are they will lose in this tourney as well.

I predict Bucky will lose to OK state in Milwaukee in about a week.

[Oldgym]

Why, they also lost their last game played, and chances are they will lose in this tourney as well.

I predict Bucky will lose to OK state in Milwaukee in about a week.

Chances are. But until that actually happens, they're a 1.

[Jay Bee]

As shocked as I was (and as bad as "losing to Seton Hall" sounds), I don't think this qualifies as a bad loss by definition.

lol

[Lennys Tap]

Just to provide some history....last year, St. John's 16-15, Providence 17-14, Washington 18-15, Florida State 18-15, Stanford 18-14, Baylor 18-14, etc, etc all played in the NIT.  

Indiana is fortunate the tourney no longer looks at how teams finish the season. In typical TC fashion IU crapped the bed down the stretch, losing 7 of their last 10 and 10 of their last 15.

[ecompt]

Hmmmm....in 8 NCAA appearances at Villanova, he is 7-1 in first round games, has been to 2 sweet 16s and a Final Four. If that's underachieving, who's average?

His record has been boosted somewhat by going 4-0 in NCAA games on his home court. He has won one NCAA game in the past three seasons, and that was as a No. 2 seed in a 2-15 game that went overtime.

[NavinRJohnson]

His record has been boosted somewhat by going 4-0 in NCAA games on his home court. He has won one NCAA game in the past three seasons, and that was as a No. 2 seed in a 2-15 game that went overtime.

Seriously?!?! They've been to the tournament two of the last three years, and they won one, lost one both times. I never mentioned his overall tournament W-L record. I'll say again, 7-1 in NCAA first round games. 8 appearances total - 2 sweet 16s, one elite 8, and one Final Four. How on earth does that qualify as being an underachieving tournament coach? BTW, since you brought it up, his overall NCAA record at Villanova...14-8. If that's underachieving, I'd like to see what achievement looks like. .

[Golden Avalanche]

Seriously?!?! They've been to the tournament two of the last three years, and they won one, lost one both times. I never mentioned his overall tournament W-L record. I'll say again, 7-1 in NCAA first round games. 8 appearances total - 2 sweet 16s, one elite 8, and one Final Four. How on earth does that qualify as being an underachieving tournament coach? BTW, since you brought it up, his overall NCAA record at Villanova...14-8. If that's underachieving, I'd like to see what achievement looks like. .

There is a sizable portion of Nova fans who are not enamored of Jay Wright. I'm sure that's hard for you to believe in Wisconsin but travel out here and ask the friends and fans of the program.

For a coach like Buzz, that'd be a hell of a record. For a coach like Dapper Jay who brought in multiple NBA prospects early in his tenure, it can be seen as underachieving relative to expectations. It's just the way things are with the fanatical expectations and standards.

[ecompt]

Seriously?!?! They've been to the tournament two of the last three years, and they won one, lost one both times. I never mentioned his overall tournament W-L record. I'll say again, 7-1 in NCAA first round games. 8 appearances total - 2 sweet 16s, one elite 8, and one Final Four. How on earth does that qualify as being an underachieving tournament coach? BTW, since you brought it up, his overall NCAA record at Villanova...14-8. If that's underachieving, I'd like to see what achievement looks like. .

Buzz has done more in three years with much less talent without the benefit of four home games. And it becomes much easier to reach the Elite Eight when you are playing at home. Ask John Wooden.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Indiana is fortunate the tourney no longer looks at how teams finish the season. In typical TC fashion IU crapped the bed down the stretch, losing 7 of their last 10 and 10 of their last 15.

I agree.  Though I hardly think IU crapped the bed last year winning 17 of 23, capturing a Big Ten title.  Or winning 10 of their last 15 to use your numbers.  Or the year prior going 11-4 in the last 15, again to use your numbers.  So not sure what is typical or fashionable since it doesn't seem the facts align with your comments.

I would also agree how a team finishes certainly has benefited MU as well, considering in our last 15 we are 7-8, worse than any of the previous two years at the other school you wanted to argue were "crapping the bed and typical".........

I guess as an alum of both schools I should feel blessed that both schools are getting a pass this year since both have done a nice job of soiling the sheets....hopefully MU can pull it off, certainly the road to get there is much much easier for us and I expect us to take advantage of it.

[NavinRJohnson]

Buzz has done more in three years with much less talent without the benefit of four home games. And it becomes much easier to reach the Elite Eight when you are playing at home. Ask John Wooden.

So it sounds like maybe Buzz overachieved. Not the same question. I still have yet to see anything from you to explain how Jay Wright has "underachieved." Playing at home one year...that's great, they still won the games.