It's so apparently obvious...

[tower912]

MU had won 5-6.   Villanova was very good today.   MU's 'leaders' were not.   Deonte scored points in bunches today.   More minutes?    simple equation....do what Buzz wants in practice.  

[GGGG]

Now I'll agree with you that no set of stats tells the entire story, but I do think defensive metrics are very indicative of a player's impact on games.  Over one in ten defensive possessions that Burton is on the floor ends in a steal or a blocked shot.  How can you honestly think that's less important than having his head on a swivel when our proverbial good defenders have little to no positive impact on a game defensively?

Because I have always valued positional defending more than I have steals.  Now I would agree with you that some of our positional defending has been weak this year.  But putting a worse defender in the game isn't a great way of making that better.

But I do like what Burton brings offensively.

[mattyv1908]

MU had won 5-6.   Villanova was very good today.   MU's 'leaders' were not.   Deonte scored points in bunches today.   More minutes?    simple equation....do what Buzz wants in practice.  

I'll give you a reference from another famed Wisconsin sports team to make you realize how silly this statement is regarding practice.

Charles Woodson was a terrible practice player to the point it upset McCarthy, yet he eventually came to understand that despite him taking numerous days off during the practice week and giving minimal effort when he was on the practice field that Woodson would bring his best game come Sunday.

Do the Green Bay Packers win their latest Super Bowl if McCarthy would've limited Woodson's playing time because of how he practiced?

Marquette has beaten Seton Hall, Butler, DePaul, Georgetown and Xavier in that 5-6 you mentioned.  Only Xavier is a quality opponent.  I wouldn't be so quick to champion those wins.

[tower912]

Go full Iverson, if you must.   Buzz is Buzz.   His MO hasn't changed.   

[mattyv1908]

Because I have always valued positional defending more than I have steals.  Now I would agree with you that some of our positional defending has been weak this year.  But putting a worse defender in the game isn't a great way of making that better.

But I do like what Burton brings offensively.

All that's good and valid Sultan, but this team isn't a good positional defensive team.  So to replace a poor positional defender who cannot score with (in your opinion) a worse positional defender (although the most disruptive defender on the team as well) who can fill the basket offensively should be a net positive.

[jesmu84]

Go full Iverson, if you must.   Buzz is Buzz.   His MO hasn't changed.   

+1. I'm not sure what's being accomplished with some of these discussions. Or even what's trying to be accomplished.

[mattyv1908]

Go full Iverson, if you must.   Buzz is Buzz.   His MO hasn't changed.    

To the detriment of this year's team.

Guys like Otule, Gardner and J Wilson with all they've given to this program deserve having the best shot at winning in their final season.  If that means getting a legitimate scorer more time on the floor despite how he practices (which no one on the board knows) so be it.

[Class71]

MU had won 5-6.   Villanova was very good today.   MU's 'leaders' were not.   Deonte scored points in bunches today.   More minutes?    simple equation....do what Buzz wants in practice.  

I was at the game and 'Nova was just OK. 'Nova moves the ball quickly, takes reasonable shots and plays reasonably good defense. I do not see them going far this year, however, given their weaknesses. Remember even with no offense we were in this game until we were Buzzed Cut by an unnamed coach who thought a "T" meant Team effort rather than technical. Al used technicals to motivate. In this team it demoralized them.

I hate to say how many times we stood around and were at a loss on offense. Take a look at MickyD if you want to learn how to move. Some players tried to make things happen and it is obvious who was Really playing for Marquette. It was also clear some players do not know the basics of setting up an offense and are confused. Others either have a hard time staying engaged or do not get enough sleep before the game. Others play very hard but have been beaten down to the point where they no longer are able to take a shot with confidence.

Do I blame this band of demoralized shadows of themselves? No. But Jay Wright taught someone how to coach today. Marquette reflected what they have been taught.

[GGGG]

The technical was a terrible decision by Buzz, but I don't think it demoralized the team and they likely would have lost anyway.

Just last year people were saying that Jay Wright was underperforming as a coach.  Marquette's team is limited and I don't think has gelled. 

[bilsu]

I do not think Juan looks comfortable out there and I think that is because Buzz did not play him the whole season. I have to believe Juan would look much better now, if Buzz had played him 20+ minutes a game the whole season. However, I could also say that about Burton. Unfortunately Jamil who has received plently fo playing time is in a slump.

[Class71]

The technical was a terrible decision by Buzz, but I don't think it demoralized the team and they likely would have lost anyway.

Just last year people were saying that Jay Wright was underperforming as a coach.  Marquette's team is limited and I don't think has gelled. 

Agree with all except I believe the team continues to be demoralized and one has to ask why they are and why it has not gelled. Who's job is it to motivate and gell a team?

Appreciate your poisition but do the sleep walkers really lack talent and those lacking confidence are they getting the help they need?

I would like to blame this on a weak team or better yet the overwhelming talent on Jay Wright's team but regrettably I did not see it today. I am not saying the coaching has been bad overall what I am saying today highlighted some weaknesses that could have been addressed earlier in the year. Feel free to have your opinion. We all come from different perspectives. I do not suggest I have all the answers.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Agree with all except I believe the team continues to be demoralized and one has to ask why they are and why it has not gelled. Who's job is it to motivate and gell a team?

Appreciate your poisition but do the sleep walkers really lack talent and those lacking confidence are they getting the help they need?

I would like to blame this on a weak team or better yet the overwhelming talent on Jay Wright's team but regrettably I did not see it today. I am not saying the coaching has been bad overall what I am saying today highlighted some weaknesses that could have been addressed earlier in the year. Feel free to have your opinion. We all come from different perspectives. I do not suggest I have all the answers.

nuance

[Class71]

nuance

Small changes are the differences between winners and losers. Confidence, motivation and focus can be improved having a significant impact on any team. Teaching the basics in offense takes longer but somehow we missed that step this year. Are we saying this team did not have the ability to learn? Besides pointing out the flaws in this team can we highlight what could have been done differently so as not to repeat next year. Are we saying we just lack the talent or we could have changed the outcome through coaching? That is the debate. Coaches can change tactics, talent is what it is.

[willie warrior]

Agree with all except I believe the team continues to be demoralized and one has to ask why they are and why it has not gelled. Who's job is it to motivate and gell a team?

Appreciate your poisition but do the sleep walkers really lack talent and those lacking confidence are they getting the help they need?

I would like to blame this on a weak team or better yet the overwhelming talent on Jay Wright's team but regrettably I did not see it today. I am not saying the coaching has been bad overall what I am saying today highlighted some weaknesses that could have been addressed earlier in the year. Feel free to have your opinion. We all come from different perspectives. I do not suggest I have all the answers.

Gee, I have heard several people here proselytize on how Buzz was a good motivator defending some of his public disses and outrageous statements in public about players etc, as his way of motivating. How are those motivational techniques working out this year?

[hairy worthen]

Gee, I have heard several people here proselytize on how Buzz was a good motivator defending some of his public disses and outrageous statements in public about players etc, as his way of motivating. How are those motivational techniques working out this year?

So what's the bottom line Willie do you want to run off a guy with 5 straight NCAA appearances, and all the other acomplishments. Hope you have someone damn good lined up.

[NavinRJohnson]

So what's the bottom line Willie do you want to run off a guy with 5 straight NCAA appearances, and all the other acomplishments. Hope you have someone damn good lined up.

No, he just likes to complain.