Bad Mayo

[wadesworld]

Hey dude. Gardner hasn't missed tonight. Literally. Why are you charging into a crowded lane with 30 seconds left on the shot clock up 3 with 3 minutes to go when your big man has scored your team's last 9 points? Why? Just why? Absolutely inexcusable.

[Nevada233]

Playing Hero Ball. Almost shot us out the game.

[NersEllenson]

Hey dude. Gardner hasn't missed tonight. Literally. Why are you charging into a crowded lane with 30 seconds left on the shot clock up 3 with 3 minutes to go when your big man has scored your team's last 9 points? Why? Just why? Absolutely inexcusable.

Know you are a Mayo hater...if you want to bash the guy on a night like tonight, please be sure to start threads for the games he's helped us win...

If he makes the buckets on drives..no whining...I don't have an issue with the guy going at basket - either get fouled, a shot from close in, or stripped...unfortunately got stripped on one of the 2 shots down the stretch..

[mugrack]

Buzz should have been telling him that too

[WellsstreetWanderer]

They had packed around Davante and no way was he going to get the ball. Todd did what he should have done. Ball just didn't go in

[mugrack]

Bad Jamil showed up tonight too

[Newsdreams]

They had packed around Davante and no way was he going to get the ball. Todd did what he should have done. Ball just didn't go in

No but he forced both shots they were not good shots. Needed to pass both times.

[PGsHeroes32]

Know you are a Mayo hater...if you want to bash the guy on a night like tonight, please be sure to start threads for the games he's helped us win...

If he makes the buckets on drives..no whining...I don't have an issue with the guy going at basket - either get fouled, a shot from close in, or stripped...unfortunately got stripped on one of the 2 shots down the stretch..

Exactly. I hate a couple of certain players but I'll celebrate WINS and give props to whoever.

This is just gross.

[Newsdreams]

Bad Jamil showed up tonight too

Bad Jamil and bad mayo and still won! 

[mileskishnish72]

Todd seems to have an inordinate ability to get stripped on his drives.

[Eldon]

They had packed around Davante and no way was he going to get the ball. Todd did what he should have done. Ball just didn't go in

+1

[Nevada233]

Todd seems to have an inordinate ability to get stripped on his drives.

Its almost Superhuman how often it happens, almost once a game. We won tho on to the next. . .

[Archies Bat]

I've never liked the terms Good/Bad Mayo.  I like Good Mayo/Frustrating Mayo.  He drives me battier than Derrick, Dawson and even Jamil.  Tonight was Frustrating Mayo.  

[warriorstrack]

Ebb and flow, I'll take the good with the bad, getting the w sure does help though

[wadesworld]

Know you are a Mayo hater...if you want to bash the guy on a night like tonight, please be sure to start threads for the games he's helped us win...

If he makes the buckets on drives..no whining...I don't have an issue with the guy going at basket - either get fouled, a shot from close in, or stripped...unfortunately got stripped on one of the 2 shots down the stretch..

I'm the first to admit I ride Mayo for many reasons. But I have been very complimentary of him the times he has played intelligent, in system basketball this year. Tonight he did not. For someone who attempts to flaunt his basketball pedigree around here, if you are truly okay with Todd running into a lane with 3 Georgetown defenders with 30 seconds on the shot clock up by 3 points with Davante Gardner having scored our last 9 points and being 8/8 on field goals to that point then you have lost any and all credibility (you didn't have any before anyways, so I guess what does it matter?)

If you want to talk hypocrisy, where is your take on how inexcusable Dawson's missed open layup was that would have pushed our lead larger? That was a big turning point in Georgetown coming back, no? I seem to remember a game ago you and others calling out D-Rock for something incredibly similar...

They had packed around Davante and no way was he going to get the ball. Todd did what he should have done. Ball just didn't go in

If that were the case then why did Todd run into said packed lane? And how did we have no problem getting the ball into Gardner on our next offensive possession? Not a good decision no matter what way you try to slice it. Just an inexcusable play at that point in the game.

[NersEllenson]

I'm the first to admit I ride Mayo for many reasons. But I have been very complimentary of him the times he has played intelligent, in system basketball this year. Tonight he did not. For someone who attempts to flaunt his basketball pedigree around here, if you are truly okay with Todd running into a lane with 3 Georgetown defenders with 30 seconds on the shot clock up by 3 points with Davante Gardner having scored our last 9 points and being 8/8 on field goals to that point then you have lost any and all credibility (you didn't have any before anyways, so I guess what does it matter?)

If you want to talk hypocrisy, where is your take on how inexcusable Dawson's missed open layup was that would have pushed our lead larger? That was a big turning point in Georgetown coming back, no? I seem to remember a game ago you and others calling out D-Rock for something incredibly similar...

If that were the case then why did Todd run into said packed lane? And how did we have no problem getting the ball into Gardner on our next offensive possession? Not a good decision no matter what way you try to slice it. Just an inexcusable play at that point in the game.

Nice try...you can go review thread..I never participated in that discussion...but if you want to get into it, I'll be glad to discuss all the layups Derrick has missed this year if you want...

As for Todd...no..he didn't go 1 on 3...into the paint...had a good angle on Trawick, but got stripped...the other he took his pull up floater from 4' that he makes a high percentage of the time.  He's the only guy on team we have who can score going to the basket...

And as for your comment about playing within the "system," you also look at the floor and situation and make a decision as to what you are going to do...Todd felt driving ball was a good option...and I know you like to say he never passes...once again...had 4 assists tonight, tied for team high with Dawson...

[Warriors10]

Jamil was worse.

[brandx]

A thread about Mayo seems the perfect place to discuss Derrick vs. John. Lots of new ground to break here 

[wadesworld]

Nice try...you can go review thread..I never participated in that discussion...but if you want to get into it, I'll be glad to discuss all the layups Derrick has missed this year if you want...

As for Todd...no..he didn't go 1 on 3...into the paint...had a good angle on Trawick, but got stripped...the other he took his pull up floater from 4' that he makes a high percentage of the time.  He's the only guy on team we have who can score going to the basket...

And as for your comment about playing within the "system," you also look at the floor and situation and make a decision as to what you are going to do...Todd felt driving ball was a good option...and I know you like to say he never passes...once again...had 4 assists tonight, tied for team high with Dawson...

I have not said Todd never passes since very early this season. Again, when Todd plays within the offense I am very happy to compliment him. Todd has done that, to my pleasant surprise, for a large majority of this season. Overall I am very pleased with how Todd has played, especially in the conference season. But tonight Todd was bad, and this particular decision was awful. Horrendous. It happens to everyone. I'm just saying that a play like he made is not acceptable and he needs to learn from it. It was not a good decision no matter how you try to spin it. He could've had a wide open breakaway layup with all 5 of Georgetown's players on the other half of the court and Davante Gardner on our bench and the right play would've been to call a timeout to get Davante in the game and get him the ball (okay, I'm exaggerating there, but you get my point). I'm sure Todd thought it was a fantastic idea. I doubt Todd thought, "Hmm, this isn't going to end well and is a horrible decision, let's give it a try!" That's fantastic that that wasn't his thought process. That doesn't mean it's the right decision. It just plain wasn't. Everyone in the building knew who should've gotten the ball. Everyone but Todd, apparently.

[wadesworld]

Jamil was worse.

This is true. But at least Jamil realized he was worse and in the last 5 minutes every time he touched the ball he got it right into Davante in the post. Well done, Jamil. Some nights you just have to realize you're not on top of your game and ride the hot hand.

[MUSF]

Know you are a Mayo hater...if you want to bash the guy on a night like tonight, please be sure to start threads for the games he's helped us win...

Know you are a Mayo lover...if you want to constantly argue that he's great and only needs more opportunities, please be sure to acknowledge when he's wasting his opportunities by playing selfish inconsistent ball.

I have been happy with Mayo's play of late, but he reverted back to his frustrating get mine game tonight. He took a few bad shots during key stretches late in the game when Gardner was owning the post and fouling every single big out of the game.

[jesmu84]

If you are here defending the particular Mayo drives in this thread, you should be over defending Juan in the other thread because the situation was the exact same.

[Shark]

People are so foolish in thinking that you can simply "Give it to Gardner" every single possession. Every possession is different and on a couple occasions Jamil and Jake were just standing on the perimeter basically forcing Todd to drive to make the offense even move. He got stripped but when he gets through traffic and makes that, everyone loves him.

[MUSF]

People are so foolish in thinking that you can simply "Give it to Gardner" every single possession. Every possession is different and on a couple occasions Jamil and Jake were just standing on the perimeter basically forcing Todd to drive to make the offense even move. He got stripped but when he gets through traffic and makes that, everyone loves him.

Just because he drives doesn't mean he has to shoot. If you don't have the shot, pull it out or pass it. Likewise, no one is saying that Gardner needs to shoot every possession, but give him the damn ball at least once in the possession.

[Shark]

Just because he drives doesn't mean he has to shoot. If you don't have the shot, pull it out or pass it. Likewise, no one is saying that Gardner needs to shoot every possession, but give him the damn ball at least once in the possession.

Easier said than done. The guy is getting walled off by up to 3 defenders at times. You can complain when it doesn't happen but it is simply hard to do when the other team knows what you intend on doing.