2014 MLB Thread & Pissing Match

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I'm not defending Braun here (nor will I ever again), but I'm having trouble following your argument here.  Maybe if you could define "consistent use" (i.e. frequency and duration) that might help...

The guy is one step away from being banned from baseball, and having the remainder of his contract voided as a result; one more positive test will cost him over $100M.  Even if everything you said is true, I don't see how anyone could be that type of stupid.

Consistent user meaning he used more than just to get over one injury.

Look at how stupid ARod is/was. Sosa was so stupid he forgot how to speak English. McGwire was so stupid he couldn't talk about the past. These guys will do anything, and this goes well beyond Braun, I don't want to pick on just him.

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MikeDeane: He's been tested repeatedly which would indicate he hasn't consistently used.

Ah.. this is the crux of the problem. You don't understand the PEDs or masking agents that players take now at all.

Or how the development of PEDs is several years ahead of the testing for the new developments.

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

Consistent user meaning he used more than just to get over one injury.

Look at how stupid ARod is/was. Sosa was so stupid he forgot how to speak English. McGwire was so stupid he couldn't talk about the past. These guys will do anything, and this goes well beyond Braun, I don't want to pick on just him.

These people have nothing to do with Braun.  You're saying they are of the same mentality as Braun, which is a very poor argument and is stereotyping.  You don't know how Braun thinks. 

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These people have nothing to do with Braun.  You're saying they are of the same mentality as Braun, which is a very poor argument and is stereotyping.  You don't know how Braun thinks. 

See previous post about coming back when you've read up on the topic.

[NavinRJohnson]

Or how the development of PEDs is several years ahead of the testing for the new developments.

This is right. Bonds never failed a test (at least as far as I can recall), but I am 100% certain he was using steroids.

Then again, I don't care. Don't care if its Braun, ARod, Puig, Trout, or (insert player name here). It doesn't matter to me. For the past I don't know how many years, I have just been working under the assumption that the overwhelming majority of players are using something, but it simoly doesn't change anything for me. I watch or attend games just the same. Heck, if it helps keep the best players on the field, if anything maybe it makes baseball better for me.

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This is right. Bonds never failed a test (at least as far as I can recall), but I am 100% certain he was using steroids.

Then again, I don't care. Don't care if its Braun, ARod, Puig, Trout, or (insert player name here). It doesn't matter to me. For the past I don't know how many years, I have just been working under the assumption that the overwhelming majority of players are using something, but it simoly doesn't change anything for me. I watch or attend games just the same. Heck, if it helps keep the best players on the field, if anything maybe it makes baseball better for me.

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[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

This is right. Bonds never failed a test (at least as far as I can recall), but I am 100% certain he was using steroids.

Then again, I don't care. Don't care if its Braun, ARod, Puig, Trout, or (insert player name here). It doesn't matter to me. For the past I don't know how many years, I have just been working under the assumption that the overwhelming majority of players are using something, but it simoly doesn't change anything for me. I watch or attend games just the same. Heck, if it helps keep the best players on the field, if anything maybe it makes baseball better for me.

Bonds used HGH.  It's the one supplement that makes your head grow bigger and the only one.  It also causes the separation of your teeth, which is why athletes like Marion Jones had braces. 

[Benny B]

Consistent user meaning he used more than just to get over one injury.

Look at how stupid ARod is/was. Sosa was so stupid he forgot how to speak English. McGwire was so stupid he couldn't talk about the past. These guys will do anything, and this goes well beyond Braun, I don't want to pick on just him.

I don't know... there's "Stupid," there's "Sammy Sosa Stupid," there's "Lindsay Lohan Stupid" and there's $100,000,000 stupid.  The first three are much more common.  I'm struggling to find an example of where someone has pissed $100M in a single shot (outside the government).

[Spotcheck Billy]

Tiger Woods? Ryan Leaf?

[NYWarrior]

I don't know... there's "Stupid," there's "Sammy Sosa Stupid," there's "Lindsay Lohan Stupid" and there's $100,000,000 stupid.  The first three are much more common.  I'm struggling to find an example of where someone has pissed $100M in a single shot (outside the government).

Maybe we can add Max Scherzer to the list in a few months

http://www.businessinsider.com/detroit-tigers-max-scherzer-contract-2014-3

[RushmoreAcademy]

My God if I hear any more Ryan Braun apologists I'm going to puke.
Even if you are somehow bizarre enough believe that he was only taking whatever small amounts it took to recover from injury, you cannot ignore the fact that he tried to get a regular guy fired to save his own ass.

But hey, he went to his house for dinner and apologized!!
(Sad trombone)

If you are going to cheer for him because he's playing for your team, whatever, I get it. It would suck to just boo the guy forever, but please, please, stop making excuses. It's just embarrassing.

[Benny B]

I don't think anyone is apologizing for Braun, here.  But the "Braun derangement" that's going on is just as bad as the apologizing, so perhaps we can all agree to move on to another topic... maybe how we haven't heard about Derek Jeter retiring in at least 4 hours now.

[buckchuckler]

What a response.  I just wanted this gif on here again. 

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

So when do they start testing Abreu for PEDs? Good lrd did not expect him to make that transition to the majors as well as he has.

[keefe]

Tiger Woods? Ryan Leaf?

The Tiger had like 9 girl friends so his was at least 9 shots

[brandx]

So when do they start testing Abreu for PEDs? Good lrd did not expect him to make that transition to the majors as well as he has.

I did. Not only is he a power hitter, but he's a good hitter period. Will have an excellent strikeout/walk ratio as well.

If you check earlier in this thread, I gave this prediction:

Abreu = .280 BA with 35 HR and 110 RBI

[WI inferiority Complexes]

So when do they start testing Abreu for PEDs? Good lrd did not expect him to make that transition to the majors as well as he has.

The scouting reports where pretty accurate on Abreu.

"One talent evaluator said Abreu could step into a big league lineup tomorrow and hit .260 with 25 home runs."

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/page/onenationmlb09172013/sizing-cuban-slugger-jose-dariel-abreu

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Abreu is so good. He's due for a sustained slump in the next few weeks as pitchers adjust though. Makes me wish Rizzo wasn't around so Theo & Jed could have went all in on Abreu. Great player.

I will have to make a couple trips to the Cell to see him this year when Sale pitches.

Sidenote - Karma strikes for Avi?

[buckchuckler]

Sidenote - Karma strikes for Avi?

What does that mean?  What has he done to drum up so much negative karma? 

[ATWizJr]

How 'bout those Brewers?

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What does that mean?  What has he done to drum up so much negative karma? 

Porking Fielder's wife in Detroit, it was meant to be a joke.

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How 'bout those Brewers?

http://todaysdate.com/

[WI inferiority Complexes]

How 'bout those Brewers?

The Brewers haven't won 9 games in a row in April since the magical 2013 season.

[Spotcheck Billy]

if they make it 10 in a row Sobelman's is giving away free burgers (according to channel 4)

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Besides Milwaukee who else do you think has been the most surprising team?