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We R Final Four

Quote from: Dreadman24 on February 23, 2014, 06:43:22 PM
+10000

If I was Ahmed Hill I wouldnt want to be coached by Buzz.

Wow--Dreadman this is a new low even for you.

AirPunches

It may have just been that guys opinion, but hopefully hill doesn't expect to play point next year. Hope he prefers to play off the ball because there are zero minutes available at the 1 next year regardless of incoming/returning talent level.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Great find. Hopefully the author is correct.

I have a good feeling about Hill. I still remember an interview with him where he said that he is coming to Maquette because Buzz is willing to build the offense around him. When I read it, I thought he was just talking. I didn't think Buzz would every promise a high school player something like that. But maybe this frosh is special.

We will see. I'm not convinced. But I hope that he is even better than advertised.

Since people were posting guesses as to what the starting lineups will be, I have:

Derrick
Mayo
Burton
Taylor
Fischer

Bench:
Johnson
Du Wilson
Anderson
Hill
Pierce

Everyone else is a benchwarmer
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Spaniel with a Short Tail

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 23, 2014, 10:36:02 PM
Great find. Hopefully the author is correct.

I have a good feeling about Hill. I still remember an interview with him where he said that he is coming to Maquette because Buzz is willing to build the offense around him. When I read it, I thought he was just talking. I didn't think Buzz would every promise a high school player something like that. But maybe this frosh is special.

We will see. I'm not convinced. But I hope that he is even better than advertised.

Since people were posting guesses as to what the starting lineups will be, I have:

Derrick
Mayo
Burton
Taylor
Fischer

Bench:
Johnson
Du Wilson
Anderson
Hill
Pierce

Everyone else is a benchwarmer

Considering how long it takes Buzz to install the offense, I hope he already started!  :D

ChitownSpaceForRent

Do they adjust the ratings after every year? I know ESPN rankings are completely pointless (Just look at Davante) but just curious to see if he could make the jump to a 5 star.

🏀

Quote from: esard2011 on February 23, 2014, 10:57:56 PM
Do they adjust the ratings after every year? I know ESPN rankings are completely pointless (Just look at Davante) but just curious to see if he could make the jump to a 5 star.

Most services do their final class ranking after the Spring AAU circuit.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Dreadman24 on February 23, 2014, 06:43:22 PM
+10000

If I was Ahmed Hill I wouldnt want to be coached by Buzz.

Guess it's a good thing you aren't Med then.  Pretty sure Buzz wouldn't want to deal with your whining either.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

77ncaachamps

FWIW, Jamil and Ox were invited to the PIT (Portsmouth Invit.)
SS Marquette

GGGG

Quote from: We R Final Four on February 23, 2014, 07:17:05 PM
Wow--Dreadman this is a new low even for you.

This is what trolls have to do.  They have to get more and more insane for people to give them the attention they crave.


Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 24, 2014, 01:13:48 AM
Guess it's a good thing you aren't Med then.  Pretty sure Buzz wouldn't want to deal with your whining either.

Yeah, I really doubt Buzz would have any interest in him.

GGGG

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 23, 2014, 10:36:02 PM
Great find. Hopefully the author is correct.

I have a good feeling about Hill. I still remember an interview with him where he said that he is coming to Maquette because Buzz is willing to build the offense around him. When I read it, I thought he was just talking. I didn't think Buzz would every promise a high school player something like that. But maybe this frosh is special.

We will see. I'm not convinced. But I hope that he is even better than advertised.

Since people were posting guesses as to what the starting lineups will be, I have:

Derrick
Mayo
Burton
Taylor
Fischer

Bench:
Johnson
Du Wilson
Anderson
Hill
Pierce

Everyone else is a benchwarmer


Since Fischer isn't going to be around until December, here is what I think:

Derrick / Duane / Dawson
Todd / Hill / Duane
Anderson / Johnson / Cohen
Burton / Shayok / Cohen
Taylor / Pierce 

muvanwilder

Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on February 24, 2014, 08:31:44 AM

Since Fischer isn't going to be around until December, here is what I think:

Derrick / Duane / Dawson
Todd / Hill / Duane
Anderson / Johnson / Cohen
Burton / Shayok / Cohen
Taylor / Pierce 

Agree on that lineup for day 1. At the start of BE play I would love to see...
Duane
Mayo
JJJ
Burton
Fischer
With Ahmed as super sub only if he is good as advertised
Next 4 in Derrick, Taylor, Juan, Satchel (I think Satchel might get second most PT of the frosh just due to need. If Mbao got playing time as a frosh, no reason to think pierce won't.)

tower912

Early in the year, STjr and Juan will be starting up front, possibly with Deonte.    Backcourt is a jambalaya.   I won't even try to predict how it shakes out.    But Pierce isn't going to start from day 1 and Buzz is not going to go with STjr and Deonte at the 4-5 spots.   Too small, nightmare defensively.       MU is just going to be small next year until Fischer is eligible.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: muvanwilder on February 24, 2014, 09:09:38 AM
Agree on that lineup for day 1. At the start of BE play I would love to see...
Duane
Mayo
JJJ
Burton
Fischer
With Ahmed as super sub only if he is good as advertised
Next 4 in Derrick, Taylor, Juan, Satchel (I think Satchel might get second most PT of the frosh just due to need. If Mbao got playing time as a frosh, no reason to think pierce won't.)


100% chance that Juan Anderson starts.

GGGG

Quote from: tower912 on February 24, 2014, 09:18:52 AM
But Pierce isn't going to start from day 1 and Buzz is not going to go with STjr and Deonte at the 4-5 spots.   Too small, nightmare defensively.       


Is this what you meant to say?  Because otherwise I don't seem to know who you think will guard the five.

And I actually think that will be Steve.  Remember Lazar guarded the five in Buzz's first year...

tower912

Yes.   I see STjr and Juan starting up front early next year.   STjr at the 5 and Juan at the 4.    Pierce will get spot minutes.   Assuming status quo, IMO Taylor, Anderson, Mayo and DeWilson can be penciled in to start early in the season.   When Fischer becomes eligible, that gives Buzz flexibility up front, the ability to, say, start Fischer and Burton with Mayo, and Hill.   Should be interesting to watch.  Not always enjoyable, but always interesting. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: tower912 on February 24, 2014, 09:53:29 AM
Yes.   I see STjr and Juan starting up front early next year.   STjr at the 5 and Juan at the 4.    Pierce will get spot minutes.   Assuming status quo, IMO Taylor, Anderson, Mayo and DeWilson can be penciled in to start early in the season.   When Fischer becomes eligible, that gives Buzz flexibility up front, the ability to, say, start Fischer and Burton with Mayo, and Hill.   Should be interesting to watch.  Not always enjoyable, but always interesting. 

Personally, I'm looking forward to Luke Fischer playing 13 minutes off the bench in his MU debut and having several posters lose their mind because he didn't start and play 32 minutes.


Archies Bat

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 24, 2014, 09:59:55 AM
Personally, I'm looking forward to Luke Fischer playing 13 minutes off the bench in his MU debut and having several posters lose their mind because he didn't start and play 32 minutes.



And we win by 2.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 24, 2014, 09:19:28 AM
100% chance that Juan Anderson starts.

I agree, but I doubt he gets starter's minutes. I don't think he will get more than 15-20 minutes per game. Barring him tapping new found potential.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


GGGG

Quote from: tower912 on February 24, 2014, 09:53:29 AM
Yes.   I see STjr and Juan starting up front early next year.   STjr at the 5 and Juan at the 4.    Pierce will get spot minutes.   Assuming status quo, IMO Taylor, Anderson, Mayo and DeWilson can be penciled in to start early in the season.   When Fischer becomes eligible, that gives Buzz flexibility up front, the ability to, say, start Fischer and Burton with Mayo, and Hill.   Should be interesting to watch.  Not always enjoyable, but always interesting. 


I agree with you completely.

Galway Eagle

I think what this season has taught us is that no matter what experience= trust to Buzz and that means our seniors and junior will be starting.  I see Derrick, Todd, Juan, Burton, Taylor.  Till Fisher comes in and then Burton moves down to the 6th man and Taylor to 4 with Fisher at 5.  I actually don't think Pierce gets many minutes. 

By the way why has nobody speculated about Harris in the lineup at all?  According to Hunt he still wants to come and we'll take him if we can haha
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

GGGG

Quote from: iwasbanned24 on February 24, 2014, 12:53:28 PM
Buzz coaching philosophy is baffling. A starting lineup with Anderson and Wilson? Where will the points come from next year? Not the starting lineup thats for sure

You do realize that a Buzz starting line up is oftentimes meaningless.  It's the total minutes that count right?

Galway Eagle

Quote from: iwasbanned24 on February 24, 2014, 01:04:18 PM
Does coach k, roy williams, and bill self coach that way? No.  Buzz is like a high school coach by wanting to make is seniors or upperclassmen happy. That doesnt work in D1 athletics.

seeing as it's worked till this season I wouldn't cry about it. His way of coaching balances classes and is designed to keep us reliably good while developing others.  Unfortunately a departure and injuries threw that off.  

Also you can't compare MU to programs that are consistently getting McDonald's AAs
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

GGGG

Quote from: iwasbanned24 on February 24, 2014, 01:04:18 PM
Does coach k, roy williams, and bill self coach that way? No.  Buzz is like a high school coach by wanting to make is seniors or upperclassmen happy. That doesnt work in D1 athletics.


Hey...you're Dreadman!!!  

willie warrior

Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on February 24, 2014, 12:59:08 PM
You do realize that a Buzz starting line up is oftentimes meaningless.  It's the total minutes that count right?
Oh boy--now the starting lineup is meaningless. Not according to Buzz. The hardest workers in practice get the nod, according to Buzz--is that meaningless? Otule starts so we are ensured of getting the first possession--now IMO, that is meaningless, but not to others. Anderson starts because he deserves to--is that meaningless?

You can't have it both ways--that it is meaningless--or it isn't. Why do guys like Anderson and Otule start if it is meaningless? It must mean something to somebody!
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

GGGG

Quote from: willie warrior on February 24, 2014, 01:23:50 PM
Oh boy--now the starting lineup is meaningless.

In terms of how it oftentimes relates to total minutes.

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