Horrendously coached year...

[jesmu84]

I could care less if you respect my basketball knowledge.  But your blind loyalty to a guy who has a had a terrible season is pathetic.  

Blind loyalty is a problem. I think turning on a guy after one disappointing season is also a problem.

[PGsHeroes32]

Blind loyalty is a problem. I think turning on a guy after one disappointing season is also a problem.

Agreed. But getting yelled at and asked for your D1 coaching credentials because you call out a few foolish coaching decisions is the biggest problem of all.

There is no middle ground on this board.

It is one disappointing season, but it doesn't mean you can't point out flaws in that given season.

If someone came out and said "Buzz flat out sucks at coaching" then we got something to work with.

[GGGG]

So you come here to defend Buzz's every move without an original thought of your own?  Got it.

I said "give benefit of the doubt to."  So when we are winning, I really don't see much need to question what he is doing.

[jesmu84]

Agreed. But getting yelled at and asked for your D1 coaching credentials because you call out a few foolish coaching decisions is the biggest problem of all.

There is no middle ground on this board.

It is one disappointing season, but it doesn't mean you can't point out flaws in that given season.

If someone came out and said "Buzz flat out sucks at coaching" then we got something to work with.

Agreed, HH.

But we definitely have had people say the equivalent of "Buzz flat out sucks at coaching"

[Dawson Rental]

From being the #1 Guy in Tennessee... To DNP, DNP on the bench on Marquette... His Family has gotta be heated..

Not the #1 Guy in Tennessee.  Get your facts straight, unless it gets in the way of what you want to argue.

[Archies Bat]

Does the word "Horrendously" count?

[PGsHeroes32]

Agreed, HH.

But we definitely have had people say the equivalent of "Buzz flat out sucks at coaching"

Yeah and if that's the case it is fair to get on them.

[Dawson Rental]

I'm looking for specifics based on this season, why the hell would any player who is highly ranked want to come here?  

Because you're here to stick up for them in MUScoop?

[BenCat12]

Blind loyalty is a problem. I think turning on a guy after one disappointing season is also a problem.

That's just it.  I am not turning on him.  I like the guy and want him to stay here but he has flaws.  On this board we are not allowed to point out flaws of the coach without being called names or having insults thrown at us.  I never rip players like some here do.  I have never booed in my lifetime as a fan.  Being critical doesn't make me a bad fan.  I believe he is a good guy and teaches valuable lessons.  I just think he has a lot of flaws as a basketball coach.

[Tums Festival]

After the way this year has gone, especially the way Buzz has used his roster. I have no idea what to expect next year except we all know Derrick Wilson will be the starting PG unless he gets run over by a bus.

That being said, I'm a bit confused by talk that Deonte Burton of all people will transfer. He's the only freshman underclassman seeing consistent minutes.

[79Warrior]

I don't agree with PRN often,

But when I do, it's about this

I second the comments. Just absolutely absurd the way some folks are acting. Morons.

Criticism is fine, but to denigrate players or coaches is disgusting.

[BenCat12]

Because you're here to stick up for them in MUScoop?

No, I want all the experts, like yourself to explain it to me.  The track record of developing high school talent isn't there, IMO.

[GGGG]

That's just it.  I am not turning on him.  I like the guy and want him to stay here but he has flaws.  On this board we are not allowed to point out flaws of the coach without being called names or having insults thrown at us.  I never rip players like some here do.  I have never booed in my lifetime as a fan.  Being critical doesn't make me a bad fan.  I believe he is a good guy and teaches valuable lessons.  I just think he has a lot of flaws as a basketball coach.

Fine....what exactly do you think he should do any why?

[jesmu84]

That's just it.  I am not turning on him.  I like the guy and want him to stay here but he has flaws.  On this board we are not allowed to point out flaws of the coach without being called names or having insults thrown at us.  I never rip players like some here do.  I have never booed in my lifetime as a fan.  Being critical doesn't make me a bad fan.  I believe he is a good guy and teaches valuable lessons.  I just think he has a lot of flaws as a basketball coach.

In this instance, I wasn't referring to you Ben.

[Dawson Rental]

From my view up close the last few home games, the young guys still look invested and into the game.  Despite the limited playing time for JJJ & Dawson, they're still engaged.  If one of them decided to transfer already I feel like there would be more signs of apathy.  I definitely see Duane sticking around.  Steve should be playing a lot next year too.  

If Johnson is worried about playing behind Mayo and competing with Ahmed Hill I suppose there's a chance he won't be in an MU uniform next year.  If any situation is fishy, it's his.  It's too reminiscent of other guys Buzz has sat prior to their departure.  But then there is the argument that Buzz always shortens the rotation we progress toward March.  

I don't think it's wrong to speculate about transfers.  As fans we want to know how the roster shakes up in the future.  I expect something to happen, but it's totally up in the air.  I'm never worried about Buzz's ability to assemble a competitive, talented and winning roster.

This year that worry would be justified.  Not enough in the 2011 and 2012 classes has MU in a down year.  This year's freshmen and next year's class should solve the problems.  2015 is already looking promising, as well.

[Dawson Rental]

I was editing it... lol... He posted too quick....

But honestly if my kid cant crack a lineup for games at a time.... That Juan Anderson played 20 minutes in and the Hand Eye Coordination of a Snake....

I'd be concerned.... Highly Concerned....

Sheer, unmitigated stupidity.

[BenCat12]

Fine....what exactly do you think he should do any why?

Take out Jake and Derrick more frequently.  They need rest throughout the game to keep fresh, so they can play late game defense.  Most of the time when Jake or Derrick get burned it is late in games.  

Get more consistent rotations and consistent minutes for guys.  Build some chemistry on the court.  Don't start JJJ for two or three games then bench him for three.  Don't give Dawson 10 minutes in one half and then bench him for four games.  They develop no flow, no chemistry.  Everyone on this team is a "specialist" instead of a complete basketball player.  Our two most complete players are Jamil and Todd IMO and they are the two who seem to have the most brain farts.  The season is almost over and they still don't seem comfortable playing with each other.  That is a problem.

[GGGG]

Thank you.  Very reasonable response.  I think the one thing that you perhaps don't understand (and admittedly neither do I), is how much Buzz communicates with his players about their roles.

However I just think you weaken your argument when you say things like "why would any recruit come here given what has happened this year."

[NickelDimer]

The argument is that I don't agree they aren't ready.  But how dare I question Buzz!

You genuinely believe, no bullsh*t, that you're in a position to know more and/or better than the actual head coach.  Honest question.  Yes or no.

Btw I open this to any and all, not just you in particular.  This is the question I'd love to see some answer

[BenCat12]

Thank you.  Very reasonable response.  I think the one thing that you perhaps don't understand (and admittedly neither do I), is how much Buzz communicates with his players about their roles.

However I just think you weaken your argument when you say things like "why would any recruit come here given what has happened this year."

I have major concerns about Buzz's communication with his players as well.  Some of the comments by Todd throughout the last three seasons have caught my attention.  I don't have a link at the moment, but I think we've all heard them.

The comment about why would a recruit come here, was a legitimate question.  I wasn't just bashing Buzz with it.  I was being serious.  I wanted to know why a recruit would consider us when he most likely won't see the court on a significant basis until he is a junior.  Most highly ranked kids aren't going to have patience for that.  Add to that the upperclassman are less physically gifted and still getting 30+minutes a night this season.  Seems like a major turn off for a top 100 kid with NBA dreams and a lot of options to play elsewhere.  Basically, I hope our future recruiting isn't hurt by this season.  The kids we have locked up for the 14 and 15 class are great, but I am concerned going forward with our ability to get top 100 kids.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Keep talking smart, what is wrong about that?
Gardner more talented than Otule
Dawson more talented than D. Wilson
JJJ and Mayo more talented than Jake
Everyone is more talented than Juan

Just saw this one, had to comment.

Our starting lineup by most time played is D Wilson, Mayo, Thomas, J Wilson, Gardner

So Gardner does play more than Otue
Dawson has more potential but is not better right now
Mayo already starts, JJJ would replace Mayo not Thomas. JJJ is not better than Mayo
Juan is third off the bench.

[BenCat12]

You genuinely believe, no bullsh*t, that you're in a position to know more and/or better than the actual head coach.  Honest question.  Yes or no.

Btw I open this to any and all, not just you in particular.  This is the question I'd love to see some answer

No, I believe Buzz knows more about basketball than I do.  I also believe that he isn't above criticism and that he has made a lot of mistakes that are obvious to most people with some familiarity with basketball.  Do you get that or should I draw you a map?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Jae Crowder.

I thought it was someone else. Nevermind, I stand corrected

[GGGG]

I have major concerns about Buzz's communication with his players as well.  Some of the comments by Todd throughout the last three seasons have caught my attention.  I don't have a link at the moment, but I think we've all heard them.

I think you need to understand that Todd has been a challenge for Buzz since he has been here.  And frankly if it weren't for Buzz, Todd would not be at Marquette.

[GGGG]

And the reason that Juan played so much today is because DePaul is a guard oriented team, and Juan is a good, perimeter defender with his length.  He's not going to get those minutes with a more interior oriented team.