Horrendously coached year...

[LAZER]

I think you guys sell all these guys short by asserting their transfers.  What if JJJ and Duane are tough kids that understand they need to get better and there are plenty of minutes to be had next year?  I know it's a crazy notion, but it can still happen.

[BenCat12]

but isn't there more to recruiting than the last single season? buzz's entire tenure at marquette? the future of the team? etc.

Fair enough, what 4 year players have seen dramatic improvement at MU under Buzz?  What percentage of players have been here 4 years?  What Buzz high school recruit has made it to the NBA?
He is successful with JUCO's because they have had someone else coach them.  It is at JUCO's that our great players learned their skill and get GAME experience, it is at MU that they learned about effort, attitude and discipline.  Buzz cares more about effort than talent or ability.   I hope Buzz either goes back to heavily recruiting JUCO's or recruits players with actual skill or else we will see a lot more seasons like this one.

[GGGG]

I think you guys sell all these guys short by asserting their transfers.  What if JJJ and Duane are tough kids that understand they need to get better and there are plenty of minutes to be had next year?  I know it's a crazy notion, but it can still happen.

You aren't keeping up with the narrative.  They already are better but Buzz is only playing the worse players because he is stubbornly loyal.

[avid1010]

I'm looking for specifics based on this season, why the hell would any player who is highly ranked want to come here?  

probably not a good thing if you're recruiting a kid that looks at one year of basketball and makes a decision about a team...but i can name a few reasons why kids would want to come to MU...
*vander blue
*jimmy butler
*dwight buycks
*jae crowder
*lazar hayward
*DJO
*wes mathews

[connie]

Fair enough, what 4 year players have seen dramatic improvement at MU under Buzz?  What percentage of players have been here 4 years?  What Buzz high school recruit has made it to the NBA?
He is successful with JUCO's because they have had someone else coach them.  It is at JUCO's that our great players learned their skill and get GAME experience, it is at MU that they learned about effort, attitude and discipline.  Buzz cares more about effort than talent or ability.   I hope Buzz either goes back to heavily recruiting JUCO's or recruits players with actual skill or else we will see a lot more seasons like this one.

This may be the dumbest thing posted on this site ever.

[brandx]

I hope JJJ stays.

But he was your son, wouldn't you be looking elsewhere?

Why? Does everything have to be instant gratification? If he wants to make it to the NBA (and I'm sure he does), it is all about working hard and being ready.

And I'm sure JJJ knows this. I think he will be an outstanding player at MU as soon as next year.

[GGGG]

What Buzz high school recruit has made it to the NBA?

Vander Blue.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Agreed.

The same people come out and same the same stuff.  And it's always negative bitching and moaning.  Nothing constructive.

Agreed...it sounds like MU fans opining about an IU team that isn't theirs.   

[Mumichfan06]

Marquette, and this thread in particular, has an over abundance of complete a55hole fans. Know it all jerkoffs.

Just too bad we didn't win by enough today.

Seems to me you "All American Posters" just can't tolerate opinions outside your own.The program is better off with ruthless fans who will only accept excellence. The future is now and fans should be disgusted with the players, Buzz, the entirety of this season. Just because you post all the time doesn't make your opinion more valid. Maybe it just makes you loud.

Everyone should be welcome to voice an opinion on here. We all want W's. Period.

[brandx]

This may be the dumbest thing posted on this site ever.

Duh. It was Bencat. Were you expecting different?

[connie]

Duh. It was Bencat. Were you expecting different?

Sorry.  I have been thrown off lately by River Rat.

[wadesworld]

I'm not for sure on that, Bro.

I heard Looney's going to Duke!

[GGGG]

Seems to me you "All American Posters" just can't tolerate opinions outside your own.The program is better off with ruthless fans who will only accept excellence. The future is now and fans should be disgusted with the players, Buzz, the entirety of this season. Just because you post all the unnatural carnal knowledgeing time doesn't make your opinion more valid. Maybe it just makes you loud.

Then say something substantive.  Not just paragraphs full of cliches.  

[BenCat12]

probably not a good thing if you're recruiting a kid that looks at one year of basketball and makes a decision about a team...but i can name a few reasons why kids would want to come to MU...
*vander blue     Didn't make it four years, didn't make the NBA, not a great deal of improvement
*jimmy butler      JUCO
*dwight buycks      JUCO
*jae crowder        JUCO
*lazar Hayward      Only played two years under Buzz, Crean guy IMO
*DJO                   JUCO
*wes Mathews          Again Crean guy, only played one year under Buzz

[BenCat12]

This may be the dumbest thing posted on this site ever.

But true when you go through the list of good to great players under Buzz

[GGGG]

Vander Blue made the NBA.  You really should pay attention more.

[brandx]

Sorry.  I have been thrown off lately by River Rat.

I always assumed they were the same guy.

[Goose]

High concern on Du Wilson and JJJ both leaving.

[bradley center bat]

Wes Matthews said on Senior Day, thank you coach Buzz for taking the hand cuffs off of me!

[BenCat12]

Vander Blue made the NBA.  You really should pay attention more.

That's making it?.... ::)Ok, how is that kool aid?

[bradley center bat]

High concern on Du Wilson and JJJ both leaving.

If Duane would he would be gone by now. Is it a real loss if JJJ left?

[BenCat12]

Duh. It was Bencat. Were you expecting different?

Again, tell me where I am wrong?  I listed my reasons and they are valid.  

What exactly do you bring to the table?  Besides insults?  

[jesmu84]

Fair enough, what 4 year players have seen dramatic improvement at MU under Buzz?  What percentage of players have been here 4 years?  What Buzz high school recruit has made it to the NBA?
He is successful with JUCO's because they have had someone else coach them.  It is at JUCO's that our great players learned their skill and get GAME experience, it is at MU that they learned about effort, attitude and discipline.  Buzz cares more about effort than talent or ability.   I hope Buzz either goes back to heavily recruiting JUCO's or recruits players with actual skill or else we will see a lot more seasons like this one.

If that was true, why would he waste time, energy and effort on recruiting highly ranked players? He surely could find high effort guys in the 200+ rankings?

[BenCat12]

If that was true, why would he waste time, energy and effort on recruiting highly ranked players? He surely could find high effort guys in the 200+ rankings?

His rotations suggest it is true.  He starts lesser talented players at 4 of the 5 positions on the floor because they give a better effort. 

You always go after the highest caliber players you can get.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Seems to me you "All American Posters" just can't tolerate opinions outside your own.The program is better off with ruthless fans who will only accept excellence. The future is now and fans should be disgusted with the players, Buzz, the entirety of this season. Just because you post all the time doesn't make your opinion more valid. Maybe it just makes you loud.

Everyone should be welcome to voice an opinion on here. We all want W's. Period.

"Ruthless" fans who just speculate who is going to transfer and blast our coach who has never missed the tournament...and this after a victory? Why should you be "disgusted" with this season? It's been a rough ride...so what? Does ripping teenagers make you feel better? Not speaking of you in particular, but the treatment of Derrick Wilson on this board is atrocious and offensive. We are a Jesuit institution and we have grown men throwing fits about the fact that he plays too many minutes, while guys who were "high school stars" (Whoppee!) are not playing enough for them. It's absolutely pathetic.