At this point

[Lighthouse 84]

Reading this thread has made me wish scoopers should have to put their age or class year at MU in their profile.  If I had to wager, I'd bet the house that the majority of posters b!tching about Buzz not playing the freshmen are either still at MU or are a year or two removed.  The average age of those who post that Buzz knows what he's doing is much higher.

Let Buzz coach.  He's got a track record that's pretty good.  4-1 and we're in.

[willie warrior]

At this point, we better be worried about not embarrassing ourselves even further against a terrible DePaul team.

[Rudy]

I think you armchair recruiting QBs need to stop your over analyzing. As its been pointed here a lot, our frosh are playing equally to most all other similarly ranked frosh. Work hard, earn time, gain trust, get more time.

I have no problem with the set Buzz is going with. DW and JT are finally playing with confidence and being aggressive. Add that with three seniors and the young guys aren't gonna play much. It's Feb18 now and we are tryin to make the tourney.

Thanks for some sanity Niv. They played against a great team last night. We did not have the tools to stop them. We did not play poorly.

[Boone]

This team hasn't strung together 4 wins out of 5 the whole season -- never mind 5 in a row. What makes anyone think we have a realistic chance of accomplishing either over the last 5 games?

[ecompt]

I would play the freshmen the rest of the way if only to prevent them for transferring. We have zero (NIT) to play for at this time. Stop with the Juan Anderson lineup, get Dawson and JJJ in there and find out how much they can contribute.

[ATL MU Warrior]

I would play the freshmen the rest of the way if only to prevent them for transferring. We have zero (NIT) to play for at this time. Stop with the Juan Anderson lineup, get Dawson and JJJ in there and find out how much they can contribute.

Do you really think that the coaching staff needs to "find out" how much they can contribute 20+ games into the season? 

[MUBBau]

This team hasn't strung together 4 wins out of 5 the whole season -- never mind 5 in a row. What makes anyone think we have a realistic chance of accomplishing either over the last 5 games?

Pretty sure before the Creighton game we had won 4 of 5 games.

[Boone]

I stand corrected. Don't see another 4-1 run in this team, though.

[Hards Alumni]

If your a High School Senior being Recruited by Marquette, with the playing time these guys got this year would you come here?

Just asking.....

Do you have any idea how stupid you sound?  just asking.

Do you think every freshman should start simply because they commit to a school?

You need a harsh dose of reality, and less stroking of our freshman's egos.

[ecompt]

Do you really think that the coaching staff needs to "find out" how much they can contribute 20+ games into the season? 

I don't know, Buzz knows 100 times more than I do. I would hate to lose Dawson or JJJ, though, without giving them a few games of 15-minutes-plus. We know what the upperclassmen can do; what would it hurt to find out about JJJ and Dawson? 

[Wojo'sMojo]

Do you have any idea how stupid you sound?  just asking.

Do you think every freshman should start simply because they commit to a school?

You need a harsh dose of reality, and less stroking of our freshman's egos.

Nobody said they should be starting. Just getting some playing time. The harsh reality is this team is going to the NIT and is not good enough for highly rated recruits to see zero playing time. I could understand the lack of playing time if we were a top 10 or even top 25 team. But we are nowhere even close to that.

[Hards Alumni]

Nobody said they should be starting. Just getting some playing time. The harsh reality is this team is going to the NIT and is not good enough for highly rated recruits to see zero playing time. I could understand the lack of playing time if we were a top 10 or even top 25 team. But we are nowhere even close to that.

So a casual fan should decide who starts?  Maybe an incoming recruit should?  Maybe you think the inmates should run the asylum.  If JJJ or Dawson gave Marquette the best chance to win then maybe they should play.  I'd rather leave that decision to the person that MU pays to make that decision.  Just because a recruit is highly rated doesn't mean that they are the best player on the floor.  Players take time to develop.  Putting a player on the floor doesn't mean the player is going to get better.

I really don't follow this logic.  Playing time for the sake of playing time?  Why would you let freshman have that sort of leverage over a coach?

[Wojo'sMojo]

So a casual fan should decide who starts?  Maybe an incoming recruit should?  Maybe you think the inmates should run the asylum.  If JJJ or Dawson gave Marquette the best chance to win then maybe they should play.  I'd rather leave that decision to the person that MU pays to make that decision.  Just because a recruit is highly rated doesn't mean that they are the best player on the floor.  Players take time to develop.  Putting a player on the floor doesn't mean the player is going to get better.

I really don't follow this logic.  Playing time for the sake of playing time?  Why would you let freshman have that sort of leverage over a coach?

Again, I'm not saying that they should start, just get some playing time now and again for development sake. This team is not very good and there is nobody on this roster who deserves more than 25 mpg. Playing time for the sake of playing time? Umm no, it's called getting game experience.

[GGGG]

Players get better in practice more than they do on the floor in game time.

And playing them so they won't transfer?  If they decide to transfer based on lack of playing time that the successful head coach doesn't believe they have earned yet, then leave.  Bye-bye.  Don't let the door hit you in the ass.  Completely replaceable. 

And *all* freshman should see that there is going to be *plenty* of time available for them even next year.

[Nevada233]

Nobody said they should be starting. Just getting some playing time. The harsh reality is this team is going to the NIT and is not good enough for highly rated recruits to see zero playing time. I could understand the lack of playing time if we were a top 10 or even top 25 team. But we are nowhere even close to that.

Exactly all I said was just asking.... and he wanna jump in his tampon bag.. I'll ask what I want, at this point Ronald Mcdonald can start this team isn't world beaters anyway.

[Nevada233]

Players get better in practice more than they do on the floor in game time.

And playing them so they won't transfer?  If they decide to transfer based on lack of playing time that the successful head coach doesn't believe they have earned yet, then leave.  Bye-bye.  Don't let the door hit you in the ass.  Completely replaceable. 

And *all* freshman should see that there is going to be *plenty* of time available for them even next year.

Very logical intelligent answer.....
Heres another question....
If your a parent... Do you travel, drive or fly and take days off to go to games your child isnt gonna play in???

Im asking as a college player in general not just at MU if ya child was at lets say Michigan and stacking up DNP's would you still support the team and travel or not??

[NersEllenson]

Last game Dawson played he was a turnover machine. The guys on the bench are not the answer to this years problems. We have no shooters. Creighton on put on a clinic, again.

Yes, Dawson was really bad in the last game he played - really the 1 time all year he looked terrible.  Yet as BAD as he was in that 9 minute stretch...the team managed to build on its lead it had...we didn't giveaway points on the lead that was built.  Pretty remarkable if you think about it...

This is where the short leash comments on Buzz come from - as bad as Dawson was against Seton Hall - he was equally very good against Georgetown.  Difference of course is 1 bad outing for Dawson has led to 2 DNP's, whereas his very good outing against GTown earned him all of 8 minutes the next outing against Nova...and no more than 11 minutes thereafter.

I haven't had an issue with how Derrick's played the last 2-3 games, he's shown better in a lot of areas...yet I still don't feel that you can win big time with a PG that is so limited from the perimeter.  It is INCREDIBLY hard to try to coach around that deficiency...

[Hards Alumni]

Exactly all I said was just asking.... and he wanna jump in his tampon bag.. I'll ask what I want, at this point Ronald Mcdonald can start this team isn't world beaters anyway.

No, you just have a less than average knowledge of how the world of college basketball works.

No offense intended, but you don't.  You're young, obviously.

We all get it, you have a massive erection for the freshmen, but zero of them have proven that they deserve to play major minutes.  Burton has come the closest, but he still has a lot of work to do.  Like Sultan said, these things are learned in practice, not games.  Why should any player get minutes he hasn't earned?

[GGGG]

Very logical intelligent answer.....
Heres another question....
If your a parent... Do you travel, drive or fly and take days off to go to games your child isnt gonna play in???

Im asking as a college player in general not just at MU if ya child was at lets say Michigan and stacking up DNP's would you still support the team and travel or not??

My response might be harsh, but if a kid transfers because Buzz doesn't feel that they have earned playing time...that's on the kid.  That's not on Buzz.  No coach should play someone just so they don't transfer.

And I'm not sure why the parent question is even relevant.  My youngest barely played on any of his basketball teams, but I went to every single game my schedule allowed because I supported the team.  It would be the same if I had a kid in college.

[NersEllenson]

No, you just have a less than average knowledge of how the world of college basketball works.

No offense intended, but you don't.  You're young, obviously.

We all get it, you have a massive erection for the freshmen, but zero of them have proven that they deserve to play major minutes.  Burton has come the closest, but he still has a lot of work to do.  Like Sultan said, these things are learned in practice, not games.  Why should any player get minutes he hasn't earned?

You probably shouldn't make assumptions about people you don't know.....you couldn't be further from wrong in your above statement.  Nevada knows a hell of a lot more about how college basketball works than 99% of the posters on this board....

Look....both Derrick and Jake have showed some improvement the last few games...yet when you look at the body of their work this season, along with Jake graduating this year...and Derrick being a senior next year...and the program's future - it would seem prudent to get both Dawson and JJJ more playing time...Dawson particularly...because he's shown that given 30 minutes in a game...he and team perform pretty well.

[GGGG]

I haven't had an issue with how Derrick's played the last 2-3 games, he's shown better in a lot of areas...yet I still don't feel that you can win big time with a PG that is so limited from the perimeter.  It is INCREDIBLY hard to try to coach around that deficiency...

Yet Buzz has managed to do just that.  They have now scored 69+ points in four straight games....first time all season.  And this is with Derrick getting almost all of the PG minutes.

[GGGG]

Look....both Derrick and Jake have showed some improvement the last few games...yet when you look at the body of their work this season, along with Jake graduating this year...and Derrick being a senior next year...and the program's future - it would seem prudent to get both Dawson and JJJ more playing time...Dawson particularly...because he's shown that given 30 minutes in a game...he and team perform pretty well.

What's going to make them better next year is an off-season of working out, working on their game, playing against one another in open gym, etc.  That is going to be *much* more effective for them than additional game minutes.

[Nevada233]

You probably shouldn't make assumptions about people you don't know.....you couldn't be further from wrong in your above statement.  Nevada knows a hell of a lot more about how college basketball works than 99% of the posters on this board....

Look....both Derrick and Jake have showed some improvement the last few games...yet when you look at the body of their work this season, along with Jake graduating this year...and Derrick being a senior next year...and the program's future - it would seem prudent to get both Dawson and JJJ more playing time...Dawson particularly...because he's shown that given 30 minutes in a game...he and team perform pretty well.

Ners, He has no idea who I am and lets keep it that way.
I don't take offense to anything. We all have our own opinion.
Wont change the price of tea in china will it?

[Nevada233]

What's going to make them better next year is an off-season of working out, working on their game, playing against one another in open gym, etc.  That is going to be *much* more effective for them than additional game minutes.

+100

I dig your perspective Sultan....

[Hards Alumni]

Ners, He has no idea who I am and lets keep it that way.
I don't take offense to anything. We all have our own opinion.
Wont change the price of tea in china will it?

Frankly, I don't care 'who' you are.  I am judging you on what you say.