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Author Topic: which conference is better?  (Read 30476 times)

ChicosBailBonds

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2014, 04:47:27 PM »
AAC has 5 team in the top 25. They are a lock to have 5 teams in the tournament:/

Correct, though 3 of them are ranked in the 20's.  The bottom of that conference is not that strong.  You said which conference is better, not which conference has the most teams to potentially go to the tournament.

A conference is more than just the good teams, its the entire conference.  A lot of teams getting fat in that conference which is how the AP poll works.  Does anyone really think San Diego State is a top 5 team?  Please.  No different than Gonzaga last year, but if you keep on winning in the human polls they don't seem to care who you play (or they forget), thus you keep climbing on up the ladder.

Just to give you an example

Top 5 AAC teams have a 45 or better RPI expectation for end of year.  The next five teams START at 173 RPI and finish at 214.   Talk about the haves and have nots.

The Big East in comparison.  Only three teams in the top 45, but 7 teams in the top 100.  The WORST team in the Big East comes in at 146, which would be 6th in the AAC.

Top to bottom, absolutely no comparison.

Dreadman24

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2014, 04:55:41 PM »
I actually doubt that. Nova and Creighton would take their top 2. And I don't think UConn or Memphis are better than X, St. Johns or Prov. I'd say it would favor the Big East by a 4-1 or 3-2 margin.

But as said before, the AAC is ridiculously top heavy. The entire bottom half of the conference is a joke. And after Louisville leaves, the top won't be as good as the Big East either.

The conference RPI speaks for itself. They are 8th. They aren't even as good as the Atlantic 10, and are closer to being on par with the WCC or Mountain West than the Big East.

The only thing the AAC will have going for it after this year is UConn, Memphis and Cincy. These are the only 3 teams that will ever compete for the conference and generally the only 3 that will get NCAA bids. After that the rest of the conference is essentially a mid-tier mid-major, on par with CUSA or the Horizon. The ceiling for the AAC is a 3 bid league, while the Big East will have the potential to have 5 bid seasons quite often.

In short, you are wrong.

can we beat SMU? Doubt it. Can providence beat memphis? Highly doubt it. Xavier vs UCONN??? LOL c'mon son

Dreadman24

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2014, 04:56:25 PM »
Im a big east fan by the way but I give credit when credit is due!

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2014, 05:59:51 PM »
SMU big wins have all been at home. They have done nothing on the road.

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2014, 06:04:22 PM »
SMU big wins have all been at home. They have done nothing on the road.

I miss SMU18

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2014, 06:39:53 PM »
you put big east top 5 up against aac top 5. AAC will win at least 3 out of 5 games


OK, so three of the top five of the AAC might beat three of the top five of the BE.

That doesn't mean the overall conference is better.  It really is a dumb argument.

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2014, 06:44:12 PM »
Maybe Buzz shoulda gone to SMU?
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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2014, 06:53:37 PM »
Maybe Buzz shoulda gone to SMU?

Maybe Buzz will go to SMU when Larry Brown leaves (which is inevitable) and comes to Marquette (why not; he has coached every other college, NBA, high school, girls middle school and JCC league team in the country).
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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2014, 07:04:20 PM »
Let us all not forget he also said JJJ told Buzz in January (may have been December) that he's transferring.

he is. You'll see

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2014, 07:05:52 PM »
Correct, though 3 of them are ranked in the 20's.  The bottom of that conference is not that strong.  You said which conference is better, not which conference has the most teams to potentially go to the tournament.

A conference is more than just the good teams, its the entire conference.  A lot of teams getting fat in that conference which is how the AP poll works.  Does anyone really think San Diego State is a top 5 team?  Please.  No different than Gonzaga last year, but if you keep on winning in the human polls they don't seem to care who you play (or they forget), thus you keep climbing on up the ladder.

Just to give you an example

Top 5 AAC teams have a 45 or better RPI expectation for end of year.  The next five teams START at 173 RPI and finish at 214.   Talk about the haves and have nots.

The Big East in comparison.  Only three teams in the top 45, but 7 teams in the top 100.  The WORST team in the Big East comes in at 146, which would be 6th in the AAC.

Top to bottom, absolutely no comparison.

Now thats a rational analysis. I can respect that.

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2014, 07:57:59 PM »
he is. You'll see

Oh yeah?  Is Buzz still going to SMU?

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2014, 08:54:52 PM »
As Chicos alluded to, the AAC is essentially two conferences: A 5 team power conference and a 5 team low tier mid major. And the strongest program in the first group is leaving. Give me the Big a East any day of the week.

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2014, 09:55:14 PM »
As Chicos alluded to, the AAC is essentially two conferences: A 5 team power conference and a 5 team low tier mid major. And the strongest program in the first group is leaving. Give me the Big a East any day of the week.

And don't forget that Rutgers is leaving too ... going to the B1G.

Once Louisville and Rutgers leave, would you rather be in Cincy/Uconn/USF (the three remaining former BE members) or MU.  Not even a hard call.

FYI ... next year's AAC (look for them too add more)

UCF
Cincy
Uconn
Houston
Memphis
USF
SMU
Temple

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2014, 10:19:28 PM »
And don't forget that Rutgers is leaving too ... going to the B1G.

Once Louisville and Rutgers leave, would you rather be in Cincy/Uconn/USF (the three remaining former BE members) or MU.  Not even a hard call.

FYI ... next year's AAC (look for them too add more)

UCF
Cincy
Uconn
Houston
Memphis
USF
SMU
Temple

They already are adding East Carolina, Tulane, and Tulsa for next year. I hope nobody would rather be in a conference with those 11 schools instead of the Big East.

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2014, 01:59:13 AM »
Now thats a rational analysis. I can respect that.

So how come we have to give you well thought out, researched, and rational arguements to get your respect; when all you do is spout off irrational nonsense but still expect respect?
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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2014, 06:10:52 AM »
So how come we have to give you well thought out, researched, and rational arguements to get your respect; when all you do is spout off irrational nonsense but still expect respect?

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2014, 08:11:03 AM »
They already are adding East Carolina, Tulane, and Tulsa for next year. I hope nobody would rather be in a conference with those 11 schools instead of the Big East.
Plus, Navy for football in 2015.

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2014, 08:34:14 AM »
They already are adding East Carolina, Tulane, and Tulsa for next year. I hope nobody would rather be in a conference with those 11 schools instead of the Big East.

im talking this year. Not next year or the year after

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2014, 08:35:51 AM »
im talking this year. Not next year or the year after

Page 1 completely proved this was wrong too.

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2014, 08:36:31 AM »
im talking this year. Not next year or the year after

This year Chicos conclusively showed how the BEast is a better conference top to bottom.  Projections on who's being added and removed from the AAC show that they have pretty much nowhere to go but down in terms of an overall conference RPI.  There is pretty much no way you can cut the data that shows that as a whole the AAC is better than the BEast.

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #45 on: February 11, 2014, 09:23:51 AM »
This year Chicos conclusively showed how the BEast is a better conference top to bottom.  Projections on who's being added and removed from the AAC show that they have pretty much nowhere to go but down in terms of an overall conference RPI.  There is pretty much no way you can cut the data that shows that as a whole the AAC is better than the BEast.

While an MU fan, Chicos is also probably the furthest thing from what you would consider a homer.

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #46 on: February 11, 2014, 09:39:27 AM »
So how come we have to give you well thought out, researched, and rational arguements to get your respect; when all you do is spout off irrational nonsense but still expect respect?

You want his respect ?-(

Dreadman24

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #47 on: February 11, 2014, 10:04:19 AM »
Obviously you guys feel some kind of way about the big east or else you wouldn't even post:\

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #48 on: February 11, 2014, 10:32:22 AM »
Obviously you guys feel some kind of way about the big east or else you wouldn't even post:\

We feel about the exact opposite way as you.  Hence the posting.

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Re: which conference is better?
« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2014, 10:50:04 AM »
This year Chicos conclusively showed how the BEast is a better conference top to bottom.  Projections on who's being added and removed from the AAC show that they have pretty much nowhere to go but down in terms of an overall conference RPI.  There is pretty much no way you can cut the data that shows that as a whole the AAC is better than the BEast.


As someone said..."#facts"

Seriously, as I said earlier, Dreadman is simply a troll.

 

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