Todd Mayo starting point guard rest of the season.

[NersEllenson]

Derrick has taken 116 shots. 12 of them are 3 point shots. So, 104 2 point attempts. He has made 47 shots. 1 of them was a 3 point shot. So, 46 2 point makes. 46 (2s made) divided by 104 (2s attempted) = .442. .442 = 44.2% of 2 point shots (or lay ups, as you call them) made. That's where the 44% was "pulled from". Now, where did you pull that 40.5 or that 35 from?

FYI -  3 pt FG attempts don't get counted as part of the FG Attempts Stat - it is a separate stat.

Derrick is 47 of 116 (.405) on 2pg FG attempts, and 1 of 12 on 3pt FG attempts.  Derrick has shot the ball 128 times this year, and has made 48 shots. 

He was too busy being an all-universe basketball talent to study the maths.

See above ATL - as part of being a ball player, you understand 3pt FGA are a separate stat and don't get factored into your FG%.

[MerrittsMustache]

FYI -  3 pt FG attempts don't get counted as part of the FG Attempts Stat - it is a separate stat.

Derrick is 47 of 116 (.405) on 2pg FG attempts, and 1 of 12 on 3pt FG attempts.  Derrick has shot the ball 128 times this year, and has made 48 shots.  

See above ATL - as part of being a ball player, you understand 3pt FGA are a separate stat and don't get factored into your FG%.

The stat "field goal attempts" means field goals attempted. Three point attempts are field goals attempted. Therefore, three point attempts are "field goal attempts."

[NersEllenson]

Similar to how Ners credits Dawson with misses that were "right on" and discounts Derrick's assists as being 8th grade caliber, he also discounts a few of Derrick's makes as being too easy while counting shots Derrick should have taken and would have missed. Running those numbers, I actually get 34.8%. It's pretty basic.

Sorry Merritt - Not the only one who sees it this way.  The "Eye Test" has some "merit."  What's really alarming is when the eye test AND statistics support that a player is struggling mightily..and one can't acknowledge that players limitations....at that point it is simply ego and stubbornness...something Buzz is struggling with this year...

Saw this posted on Scout site:
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Re: I liked the Buzz rotation of Dawson at 2G
This is not a personal attack. It is only an observation. Last night, I got to sit in the third row. From that vantage point, some of Derrick's missed shots were nothing short of incredible. I know he does more than score, etc, etc, etc, but a D1 player shouldn't miss a 2 foot shot by 3 feet.
Buzz is going to keep playing it the way he has all year.

[GGGG]

Sorry Merritt - Not the only one who sees it this way.  The "Eye Test" has some "merit."  What's really alarming is when the eye test AND statistics support that a player is struggling mightily..and one can't acknowledge that players limitations....at that point it is simply ego and stubbornness...something Buzz is struggling with this year...

Someone's struggling with it this year....but it aint Buzz.

[NersEllenson]

Someone's struggling with it this year....but it aint Buzz.

Clearly you, Merritt, Lenny, ATL, and Gooo.....

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Someone's struggling with it this year....but it aint Buzz.

I see what you did there.

[GGGG]

I see what you did there.

Well I mean c'mon... 

It's just getting comical.  The ego is Ners constantly believing that one player is better than another to the point where he thinks he knows better than the coach.  Of course he then has to claim that coach is being stubborn and egotistical rather than admit that maybe Ners himself might be wrong.  The stubbornness is doubling-down on the assertions.

Of course then there is the whole "were you on the basketball team or in the pep band" question in the other thread.

I mean...WTF? 

[MerrittsMustache]

Well I mean c'mon... 

It's just getting comical.  The ego is Ners constantly believing that one player is better than another to the point where he thinks he knows better than the coach.  Of course he then has to claim that coach is being stubborn and egotistical rather than admit that maybe Ners himself might be wrong.  The stubbornness is doubling-down on the assertions.

Of course then there is the whole "were you on the basketball team or in the pep band" question in the other thread.

I mean...WTF? 

On the moratorium thread, I just vowed to stop responding to Ners' endless Derrick-Dawson rants. He keeps saying the same things but I keep responding so I guess I'm guilty of being an enabler. Honestly, what's the point? His mind is made up and absolutely nothing is going to change it.

[River rat]

Devante scores alot of points too...I nominate him to be the point guard!!

Not sure what game the OP went to, but nothing I saw in the Butler gamer or anyother game I have ever seen Mayo play in makes me think he should be the point guard.  He actually does not have a very good handle and makes a good amount of very bad passes.

This is another very absurd post in a seoson of truly absurd posts 

[dddawson]

Loved Todd .... He did mad work .... But it's been proven in a pressure situation VS Georgetown that if young Dawson is given plus minutes and opportunity to play and play thru that he can get some things done .... 3 months into the system which once again proves he's a BALLER .... It's understandable to trust the vets 3years vs3months ... But there's no way you can fairly discredit young Dawson until he gets ample mins like VS the hoyas and that was away and necessary

[g0lden3agle]

Loved Todd .... He did mad work .... But it's been proven in a pressure situation VS Georgetown that if young Dawson is given plus minutes and opportunity to play and play thru that he can get some things done .... 3 months into the system which once again proves he's a BALLER .... It's understandable to trust the vets 3years vs3months ... But there's no way you can fairly discredit young Dawson until he gets ample mins like VS the hoyas and that was away and necessary

No doubt.  If anyone was to get more minutes at PG it would be Dawson.  The offense running through Todd does not mean he should be the PG.  It simply means he should be out on the court as much as possible.

[dddawson]

Loved that Derrick did great too ..... Stepped up and lead

[ATWizJr]

On the moratorium thread, I just vowed to stop responding to Ners' endless Derrick-Dawson rants. He keeps saying the same things but I keep responding so I guess I'm guilty of being an enabler. Honestly, what's the point? His mind is made up and absolutely nothing is going to change it.

If NERS goes away will bma725 return?

[mattyv1908]

I'm sorry I began this post.  My headline should have read differently.  It should have been 'Todd Mayo alleviates PG problems' or something to that affect.

Thanks Ners and Sync for another Derrick Wilson thread - SARCASM

My main point that got lost in translation was that there is no reason that either Wilson or Dawson has to be on the court for 40 minutes.  Todd Mayo along with another guard and preferably Jamil can run the show for 8-12 minutes a game which effectively does two things:

1.  Let's Derrick Wilson contribute where he does.  He's a 20-25 minute guy who does play solid peremeter defense when he's not gassed.

2.  Let Dawson get his 7-12 minutes without asking him to do too much.  At this point we're too far along to hand the keys over to a freshman with limited minutes.  We can argue what could have, should have, would have been but at this point it's pointless and doesn't benefit the team these last 8 games.

I apologize for what has been another journey down the rabbit hole or an online d!ck measuring contest played out by two guys under the guise of who the better point guard is.  If it was up to me I'm not sure I'd want either Wilson or Dawson representing my figurative manhood.

[Lennys Tap]

FYI -  3 pt FG attempts don't get counted as part of the FG Attempts Stat - it is a separate stat.

Derrick is 47 of 116 (.405) on 2pg FG attempts, and 1 of 12 on 3pt FG attempts.  Derrick has shot the ball 128 times this year, and has made 48 shots. 

See above ATL - as part of being a ball player, you understand 3pt FGA are a separate stat and don't get factored into your FG%.

You are absolutely, positively, unequivocally 100% wrong. Look at Jake's numbers. Is he 45 of 132 on 2 point attempts and 42 of 112 on 3s? Of course not. They are NOT separate stats. Want his 2 point %? Just like I did with Derrick, subtract his 3 point attempts (112) from his total FG attempts (132). He's shot 20. To get 2 point FGs made subtract 3s made (42) from total made (45). So he's 3-20 or 15% on 2 point attempts, 42-112 (37.5%) on 3s, and 45-132 (34.1) overall. Follow?

[ATL MU Warrior]

You are absolutely, positively, unequivocally 100% wrong. Look at Jake's numbers. Is he 45 of 132 on 2 point attempts and 42 of 112 on 3s? Of course not. They are NOT separate stats. Want his 2 point %? Just like I did with Derrick, subtract his 3 point attempts (112) from his total FG attempts (132). He's shot 20. To get 2 point FGs made subtract 3s made (42) from total made (45). So he's 3-20 or 15% on 2 point attempts, 42-112 (37.5%) on 3s, and 45-132 (34.1) overall. Follow?

See above ATL - as part of being a ball player, you understand 3pt FGA are a separate stat and don't get factored into your FG%.

See above Ners - <hysterical laughing ensues> I guess we finally have our confirmation of your grossly exaggerated basketball pedigree.  After all, as part of being a ball player...... priceless.

When are you going to respond to the other thread BTW?   

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

You are absolutely, positively, unequivocally 100% wrong. Look at Jake's numbers. Is he 45 of 132 on 2 point attempts and 42 of 112 on 3s? Of course not. They are NOT separate stats. Want his 2 point %? Just like I did with Derrick, subtract his 3 point attempts (112) from his total FG attempts (132). He's shot 20. To get 2 point FGs made subtract 3s made (42) from total made (45). So he's 3-20 or 15% on 2 point attempts, 42-112 (37.5%) on 3s, and 45-132 (34.1) overall. Follow?

Join the moratorium Lenny! There is strength in silence!