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Tugg Speedman

Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 01, 2014, 10:07:12 PM
There's a chance Kate Upton appears bare ass naked on my front doorstep tomorrow mornin' too, hey?

I'll send her over when I'm done with her.


Coleman

Quote from: Heisenberg on February 01, 2014, 01:38:40 PM
Why delete it, it half right now ... Bucky lost to tOSU 1and 5 in their last 6, 3 and 5 in the B1G. 

If Bucky loses @ill on Tuesday, stick a fork in them.

No.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Heisenberg on February 01, 2014, 01:38:40 PM
Why delete it, it half right now ... Bucky lost to tOSU 1and 5 in their last 6, 3 and 5 in the B1G. 

If Bucky loses @ill on Tuesday, stick a fork in them.

You do realize it matters who you beat and to whom you lose to.  Their losses in the last 6 games include losing to NCAA teams Ohio State and Michigan.  Losing at Indiana and at Minnesota.  Losing to Northwestern.  The only loss that dinged them was the home loss to Northwestern (of course they already beat NW on the road).

Their current RPI is 13.  Projected RPI is 17.


willie warrior

Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 01, 2014, 10:07:12 PM
There's a chance Kate Upton appears bare ass naked on my front doorstep tomorrow mornin' too, hey?
Yes!! We need more Kate Upton pictures here. Keefe will likely post one of her straddling a fighter jet---and he will be in the cockpit.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

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Coleman

There are a lot of worthy contenders but I think this might be the most hilariously ridiculous thread in the history of MUScoop.

Tugg Speedman

Three weeks ago Bucky was #3
This week they are not ranked.

In the history of college basketball, how many teams went from #3 to unanked in three weeks or less after January 1st? (tOSU is also unranked this week ... 4 weeks ago they were also #3.  So Bucky collapsed faster)

Tomorrow Bucky plays at Ill and Saturday they host MSU.  Bucky loses tomorrow and they are toast... NIT bound.  


Coleman

Quote from: Heisenberg on February 03, 2014, 01:43:31 PM
Three weeks ago Bucky was #3
This week they are not ranked.

In the history of college basketball, how many teams went from #3 to unanked in three weeks or less after January 1st? (tOSU is also unranked this week ... 4 weeks ago they were also #3.  So Bucky collapsed faster)

Tomorrow Bucky plays at Ill and Saturday they host MSU.  Bucky loses tomorrow and they are toast... NIT bound.  



There are 43 unranked teams that make the NCAA every year. Even accounting for every single at large, thats quite a leap to say they wont make it because they are unranked

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Heisenberg on February 03, 2014, 01:43:31 PM
Three weeks ago Bucky was #3
This week they are not ranked.

In the history of college basketball, how many teams went from #3 to unanked in three weeks or less after January 1st? (tOSU is also unranked this week ... 4 weeks ago they were also #3.  So Bucky collapsed faster)

Tomorrow Bucky plays at Ill and Saturday they host MSU.  Bucky loses tomorrow and they are toast... NIT bound.  



They are currently favored to win (by Ken Pom and RPI) 6 more games, pick'em in one, and underdog in two.  That would leave them at 23 or 24 wins.  Say they only win half of the games they are favored in, that would still mean 20 wins including wins over Florida, West Virginia, Saint Louis, St. John's, Marquette, UW GB, Iowa, Northwestern, Virginia.

They are going to the NCAA tournament barring an absolute catastrophe....like 1-8 or 2-7 in these last 9.  It's not like they have been run out of the building with these losses.  Losing by 1 to OSU, by 3 at Indiana, they lost at Minnesota (happens to many teams), they lost to Michigan (hardly a bad loss).


Lennys Tap

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 03, 2014, 02:58:35 PM
They are currently favored to win (by Ken Pom and RPI) 6 more games, pick'em in one, and underdog in two.  That would leave them at 23 or 24 wins.  Say they only win half of the games they are favored in, that would still mean 20 wins including wins over Florida, West Virginia, Saint Louis, St. John's, Marquette, UW GB, Iowa, Northwestern, Virginia.

They are going to the NCAA tournament barring an absolute catastrophe....like 1-8 or 2-7 in these last 9.  It's not like they have been run out of the building with these losses.  Losing by 1 to OSU, by 3 at Indiana, they lost at Minnesota (happens to many teams), they lost to Michigan (hardly a bad loss).



You are right. It would take a catastrophe for UW to not make the NCAA. I don't think there's hardly any chance it will happen. Thing is, though, I didn't see any chance that they would lose 5 of the last 6 either (Ken Pom had them favored in all 6). Right now the BIG has 1 really good team (with a couple of big injuries, two pretty good teams, and 9 fair to poor teams. Similar to the Big East and maybe everyone except the Big 12. Not much cream, lots of crap.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 03, 2014, 02:58:35 PM
They are going to the NCAA tournament barring an absolute catastrophe....like 1-8 or 2-7 in these last 9.  It's not like they have been run out of the building with these losses.  Losing by 1 to OSU, by 3 at Indiana, they lost at Minnesota (happens to many teams), they lost to Michigan (hardly a bad loss).

This is the reverse of the Northwestern argument.  Bucky is in a 4 way tie for 5th place at 4-5 (with tOSU, Minn and IU).  If they go 4 - 5 in their next 9 and finish 8 - 10 they will finish 6th or 7th in the B1G.  In NU finishes above them, Bucky will go and they will pass over NU because they have a crappy RPI?  How many mediocre teams will the B1G send.

Again, their season is tomorrow.  If they lose @Ill I say they then lose to MSU this weekend.  If they are 4 - 7 one week from today, they are toast. And they are playing bad enough in the last five that this could happen (including two losses to now unranked teams at home last week ... something no Bo Ryan team has ever done).

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Heisenberg on February 03, 2014, 03:40:57 PM
This is the reverse of the Northwestern argument.  Bucky is in a 4 way tie for 5th place at 4-5 (with tOSU, Minn and IU).  If they go 4 - 5 in their next 9 and finish 8 - 10 they will finish 6th or 7th in the B1G.  In NU finishes above them, Bucky will go and they will pass over NU because they have a crappy RPI?  How many mediocre teams will the B1G send.

Again, their season is tomorrow.  If they lose @Ill I say they then lose to MSU this weekend.  If they are 4 - 7 one week from today, they are toast. And they are playing bad enough in the last five that this could happen (including two losses to now unranked teams at home last week ... something no Bo Ryan team has ever done).

So to be clear, you're back on the toast \ put fork in them.  If they lose tomorrow, they don't make the NCAA tournament because you have them losing to MSU this weekend.  Is that correct?

I think they can lose these next two and still be just fine....though it would not surprise me in the least to see them beat MSU at home.  They will likely beat IU at home, Purdue at home, Minnesota at home.  Penn State will be tough away, not a game anyone wants to play but they likely find a way.  I can see them losing to Nebraska, Iowa and Michigan away. 

That's a resume that will get you in.  They just have too many wins over other teams.  It would require an epic collapse, which maybe they will do, but I don't see how losing tomorrow and to MSU = TOAST.  Too many games left after that.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: Bleuteaux on February 03, 2014, 02:18:56 PM
There are 43 unranked teams that make the NCAA every year. Even accounting for every single at large, thats quite a leap to say they wont make it because they are unranked

Again three weeks ago they were #3, now they are unranked.  This is a monumental collapse for a #3 team after January 1st (yes it happens early in the season, but not after 17 games).

Are you predicting a team that is complete free-fall is going to now turn it around?  The same team that had tOSU all but won but could not score one single FG at home in the last seven minutes of the game and blew critical free-throws.  A team that is in such disarray that Trevon Jackson is being booed everytime he touches the ball and has ripped the home fans.

Bucky is in deep doo doo right now.  

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 03, 2014, 03:48:23 PM
So to be clear, you're back on the toast \ put fork in them.  If they lose tomorrow, they don't make the NCAA tournament because you have them losing to MSU this weekend.  Is that correct?

I think they can lose these next two and still be just fine....though it would not surprise me in the least to see them beat MSU at home.  They will likely beat IU at home, Purdue at home, Minnesota at home.  Penn State will be tough away, not a game anyone wants to play but they likely find a way.  I can see them losing to Nebraska, Iowa and Michigan away. 

That's a resume that will get you in.  They just have too many wins over other teams.  It would require an epic collapse, which maybe they will do, but I don't see how losing tomorrow and to MSU = TOAST.  Too many games left after that.

To sum it up ...

I see a team that is #3 three weeks ago now unranked.  I see a team lose to NU and tOSU at home, both unranked, something that has not happened in the Bo Ryan era (before last week, in the last 12 years Bucky has lost to only 1 unranked B1G team at home.  Last week they did it twice in 4 days).  I see a team that is blowing leads late in the game.  I see a team that has so upset it home fans they boo Jackson every-time he touches the ball.  I see a team that has proven Kenpom wrong 5 of the last 6 games.

You see nothing unusual and we still need to expect Bucky to perform like an undefeated #3 team.  You think nothing has changed.

That's the difference in our arguments.  Is this merely a bump in the round or something more.  You say bump, I say something more.


MuMark

Repeat after me.....Total....body...of....work.....

What they were ranked 2 weeks ago doesn't matter.......You are going to have to find 37 ateams with better resumes....good luck with that.....http://www.unf.edu/~jcoleman/dance.htm

Quote from: Heisenberg on February 03, 2014, 03:49:10 PM
Again three weeks ago they were #3, now they are unranked.  This is a monumental collapse for a #3 team after January 1st (yes it happens early in the season, but not after 17 games).

Are you predicting a team that is complete free-fall is going to now turn it around?  The same team that had tOSU all but won but could not score one single FG at home in the last seven minutes of the game and blew critical free-throws.  A team that is in such disarray that Trevon Jackson is being booed everytime he touches the ball and has ripped the home fans.

Bucky is in deep doo doo right now.  

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: MuMark on February 03, 2014, 04:09:31 PM
Repeat after me.....Total....body...of....work.....

What they were ranked 2 weeks ago doesn't matter.......You are going to have to find 37 ateams with better resumes....good luck with that.....http://www.unf.edu/~jcoleman/dance.htm


Making the same mistake everyone else is making.  If selection Sunday was today, they are in.  But its not today, it is 6 weeks away.  Something happened to this team and they are not the same but rather a significantly worse brand of ball.  Yes, the total body of work in six weeks will not be there.


brandx

Quote from: Heisenberg on February 03, 2014, 04:35:25 PM
Making the same mistake everyone else is making.  If selection Sunday was today, they are in.  But its not today, it is 6 weeks away.  Something happened to this team and they are not the same but rather a significantly worse brand of ball.  Yes, the total body of work in six weeks will not be there.


C'mon man - give it up already!!!

Windyplayer

This is an MU basketball board, right. Soooo, who cares.

ChicosBailBonds

Looks like the toast and fork can be put away.

Coleman

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 04, 2014, 11:25:01 PM
Looks like the toast and fork can be put away.

+1

Can we lock and destroy this thread now?

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 03, 2014, 03:48:23 PM


I think they can lose these next two and still be just fine....though it would not surprise me in the least to see them beat MSU at home. 



No, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see them beat MSU at home....as they just did. 

PGsHeroes32

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Coleman


Tums Festival

Becky's back in the AP Top 25 at #21 this week. Looks like they'll be fine.
"Every day ends with a Tums festival!"

Coleman

Quote from: Heavy Gear on February 10, 2014, 03:01:53 PM
Becky's back in the AP Top 25 at #21 this week. Looks like they'll be fine.

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