Providence Minutes/Thoughts

[jesmu84]

Really liked the first half minutes distribution. Liked the offensive-minded starting lineup. Wish Buzz would have changed things up more during Providence's run in the second half.

Also, someone here said we absolutely would not beat Providence if Jake and Derrick played the majority of minutes. Jake with 23, Derrick with 30. I wonder if we'll see any response... (actually said we wouldn't win another game if Derrick played 30+ as well)

Edit: Yes, I am doing this because of all the threads that popped up after the Georgetown game. No, I still don't personally believe Derrick should be playing more than 20-25 min.

[mr.MUskie]

For once we didn't start a game down 10 after the first 5 minutes.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Really liked the first half minutes distribution. Liked the offensive-minded starting lineup.

Also, someone here said we absolutely would not beat Providence if Jake and Derrick played the majority of minutes. Jake with 23, Derrick with 30. I wonder if we'll see any response...

What do you say Nevada? Did we have a bet?

[esotericmindguy]

Really liked the first half minutes distribution. Liked the offensive-minded starting lineup. Wish Buzz would have changed things up more during Providence's run in the second half.

Also, someone here said we absolutely would not beat Providence if Jake and Derrick played the majority of minutes. Jake with 23, Derrick with 30. I wonder if we'll see any response...

Edit: Yes, I am doing this because of all the threads that popped up after the Georgetown game. No, I still don't personally believe Derrick should be playing more than 20-25 min.

I wasn't one of those guys. But when your spotted 19 points that helps. Thomas barely played in first half. Then buzz went to his standard lineup and Providence got back in the game. I'd have to rewind it, but Thomas and Wilsom were in the game during the high majority of that ridiculous 16-0 run.

[Aircraftcarrier]

I think the McDonalds All Americans should have received more minutes.

[Newsdreams]

No Buzz was doing the hockey lineups still. Then went with  the upper classmen when it got close even KO pointed it out.

[NersEllenson]

I didn't see the 1st half but saw we won it 31-14.

Know we got beat 36-30 in second half....think Dawson got 2 minutes in 2nd half..paired with Juan and Otule.  Yikes.  Saw Buzz put him in after a timeout... Providence came with full court pressure...we couldn't inbound..Dawson couldn't shake free..call timeout....Buzz yanks him.  That's the exact type of move I feel is too short of leash.

In 2nd half thought Derrick played well with 2 very nice assists that came off penetration for Deonte and Gardner.

Thought Jake was awful the whole 2nd half..not sure what he did to "earn" those 2nd half minutes..

[Nevada233]

What do you say Nevada? Did we have a bet?

I told you to inbox me... You didnt.. so guess we didnt... because we never set the stakes....

Great game tho.... I wanna be wrong on that for the rest of the year... As long as we win...

[mileskishnish72]

Not much Jake first half, good lead. Lots of Jake second half, not so much.

[jzpenguin]

And we won't talk about the stupid fouls Jake committed 25 feet from the basket that gave easy points to Providence.

[Nevada233]

Not much Jake first half, good lead. Lots of Jake second half, not so much.

Those fouls on Cotton 30 Feet from the basket were horrible....

Im just not sold on Jake Thomas His numbers don't add up to him playing 10 seconds a season longer than Mayo....

Providence - 23 minutes/ 1-5 FG/ 3 points
Seton Hall -30 minutes/ 0-4 FG/ 0 points
Villanova -30 minutes/0-1 FG/0 0 points
Wisconsin -28 minutes/0-1 FG/ 0 points
Ohio State -29 minutes/ 0-7 FG/ 2 points
Butler -38 minutes/1-8 FG/ 9 points
Depaul- 36 minutes/2-6 FG/ 6 points
Creighton -32 minutes/2-5 FG/8 points
San Diego State -28 minutes/1-3/ 5 points

[nyg]

The substitutions were strange, but I guess effective in first half.  11 players played in first six minutes, maybe Buzz appeasing players so they don't transfer.

Juan needs to sit at end of bench.

Thomas sitting in first half lead to big lead, then he just imploded in second half.  Bad night, more Mayo or JJJ.

JJJ made two beautiful passes tonight, very impressive.  

Burton is not bashful, but does he have the "IT" factor.  Just calm down abit.

Nice win, but have to step it up to beat St. Johns at the Garden.

Buzz using "flashcards".  Whats up with that?

[tower912]

1.   First half was the best half of basketball all year.
2.   Buzz kept the substitutions going for better or worse in the second half, until it mattered.  
3.   Jake takes smart 3 pt shots.   He cannot pass up wide open looks.   JaJuan needs to understand context before jacking early 3's.
4.   The experienced players plus Deonte played the last 10 minutes, as MU fended off the run.   Well coached, Buzz.
5.   If you look at the right 33 minutes, MU won 61-34
6.   Todd and Davante down the stretch with FT's.   Nice.  
7.   Defensive rebounding, free throws, early shot clock 3's.   I think that is all I can complain about.
8.   Providence just puts their shoulders down and dares the ref to call an offensive foul.
9.   I liked the hockey style line changes.
10.  Great effort by the entire team.  Anyone still beating the dead horse until after Saturday's game is a damn fool.  Let it go.   They both played well.

[brandx]

1.   First half was the best half of basketball all year.
2.   Buzz kept the substitutions going for better or worse in the second half, until it mattered. 
3.   Jake takes smart 3 pt shots.   He cannot pass up wide open looks.   JaJuan needs to understand context before jacking early 3's.
4.   The experienced players plus Deonte played the last 10 minutes, as MU fended off the run.   Well coached, Buzz.
5.   If you look at the right 33 minutes, MU won 61-34
6.   Todd and Davante down the stretch with FT's.   Nice. 
7.   Defensive rebounding, free throws, early shot clock 3's.   I think that is all I can complain about.
8.   Providence just puts their shoulders down and dares the ref to call an offensive foul.
9.   I liked the hockey style line changes.
10.  Great effort by the entire team.   If anyone still beating the dead horse until after Saturday's game is a damn fool.  Let it go.   They both played well.

Pretty good points (except #2), but getting a good win made me more pessimistic for the season. I see no way into the tournament since we have to win 3 in a row at the end of the season. We saw that when a game is competitive, it's gonna be Derrick (who had the best game of his career) & Jake on the floor and I don't see beating Creighton, Xavier, Nova with that lineup.

Buzz had a great game plan in the 1st half and it worked so well he abandoned it at halftime. I believe JJJ & Dawson had a combined 7 minutes in the 2nd half and I also don't see that changing.

[tower912]

11.   That run would have stopped if Deonte doesn't miss a dunk and Juan doesn't miss a lay up.   Both good shots, both shots MU wants.   Gotta make them.

[brandx]

Dawson and JJJ earned their time in the first half.   They earned the time they received in the second half.   Pretty simple. 

We'll agree to disagree on this one point.

[PGsHeroes32]

One thing...def not bashing derrick today. Really I think Juan was only player who really had no positives.

But it is ironic this thread is started about the minute distribution and again, the half where derrick played basically the whole time is the one we got destroyed in until final free throws made it look better.

Not blaming him at all here. Just sayin, as usual it works both ways.

[BM1090]

Pretty good points (except #2), but getting a good win made me more pessimistic for the season. I see no way into the tournament since we have to win 3 in a row at the end of the season. We saw that when a game is competitive, it's gonna be Derrick (who had the best game of his career) & Jake on the floor and I don't see beating Creighton, Xavier, Nova with that lineup.

Buzz had a great game plan in the 1st half and it worked so well he abandoned it at halftime. I believe JJJ & Dawson had a combined 7 minutes in the 2nd half and I also don't see that changing.

We don't need to win 3 games at the end of the season. 8-2 down the stretch. Losses at home vs Creighton and @ Nova. 20-11 (12-6). All 11 losses to top 100 RPI teams. We're in. To steal one from legs......doable

[GGGG]

Dawson and JJJ earned their time in the first half.   They earned the time they received in the second half.   Pretty simple.  

Yep. Providence was trying to speed up MU and JJJ and Deonte took shots too early in the clock. The vets came in, slowed things down, and MU took hold of the game. I thought Dawson played well but Buzz clearly saw that Derrick was doing well so he rode with him. Really everyone got the minutes they deserved. And everyone played hard when they were in and made a positive contribution.

[tower912]

There was a complete line change during the run.   They played about 2 minutes and nothing good happened.   Buzz went back to his upperclassmen and they stopped the run and righted the ship.  

[GGGG]

One thing...def not bashing derrick today. Really I think Juan was only player who really had no positives.

But it is ironic this thread is started about the minute distribution and again, the half where derrick played basically the whole time is the one we got destroyed in until final free throws made it look better.

Not blaming him at all here. Just sayin, as usual it works both ways.

Juan had a block and forced a turnover. Not much but it was something.

[PGsHeroes32]

Yep. Providence was trying to speed up MU and JJJ and Deonte took shots too early in the clock. The vets came in, slowed things down, and MU took hold of the game. I thought Dawson played well but Buzz clearly saw that Derrick was doing well so he rode with him. Really everyone got the minutes they deserved. And everyone played hard when they were in and made a positive contribution.

Idk if you can say JJJ took them too early. His only shot(that I recall) was early but he was wide the hell open and deonte had a monster board and scored. But yeah I agree Deonte did take some quick shots that were then rushed.

[Nevada233]

Im still baffled how Juan missed that Layup Line Layup.

Thats like when you miss a paper bag right by your trash can all by yourself. Lol

[PGsHeroes32]

Juan had a block and forced a turnover. Not much but it was something.

lol ok fair enough. He still looked bad.

Forgot who it  was JJJ or dawson I believe that saved him from the most moronic pass I have seen in a while at half court while they were on their run.

[hdog1017]

Juan Anderson rarely has any positives.