no pun intended...

[PhillyCoach]

Hey scoopers, don't mean to open old wounds. I wanna ask you guys an honest question. But first lets put something to rest. The application to mu was not the reason newbill did not attend your fine university. The availability of a bigger top 100 recruit, ie. Jamil Wilson was the reason. The application could have turned in a week before fall classes started. Now for my question. I think we all agree that psu sucks as a basketball program. But I'd like know your honest opinion of newbill's game...

[PhillyCoach]

Excuse the errors, typing to fast on my phone. Who cares about proof reading this isn't school.  Lol...

[Eldon]

Newbill's a great player.  Look at the other threads on scoop, nothing but praise for his game. Most (all?) here are happy that he's doing well and wish him nothing but the best.

[4everwarriors]

Yo PC, the cat will be takin' his talents to the Association.

[Hards Alumni]

Hey scoopers, don't mean to open old wounds. I wanna ask you guys an honest question. But first lets put something to rest. The application to mu was not the reason newbill did not attend your fine university. The availability of a bigger top 100 recruit, ie. Jamil Wilson was the reason. The application could have turned in a week before fall classes started. Now for my question. I think we all agree that psu sucks as a basketball program. But I'd like know your honest opinion of newbill's game...

Hey PhillyCoach, don't mean to open new wounds.  I wanna ask you an honest question.  But first lets put something to rest.  A pun isn't what you think it is.

But really, Newbill is a fine player, and a lot of people obviously would love to have him.  That being said, I'm not sure we make the Elite 8 last year without Jamil Wilson.  Of course, looking back, it would be great to have Newbill this year, but I wouldn't give up last year's run simply to get in the NCAA tournament this year.  Who knows what would have happened... Could MU have given DJ the chance that PSU did?  This year would probably have been his first year getting meaningful minutes, since he would have been behind Vander Blue on the depth chart.

Of course we would love to have him on the team this year, but we probably wouldn't trade past success for him.

[tower912]

He would have been welcome at MU.   I don't know that he would have gotten the minutes at MU that he got at SMiss and PSU, as he would have been playing right next to Blue.   I certainly bear him no ill will. 

[PhillyCoach]

Well I'll say this, you guess may be right. But as a coach the depth chart goes out the window when a guys proves himself to be better than other guys in practice and in games. Not saying dj would have done that at mu. But knowin his skill set and his heart, I personally think he would thrive on any team in the country if given the opportunity. He's the epitome of a hard nose Philly guard.

[PhillyCoach]

Oh and for the record hards_alum. I do know the meaning of paronomasia,  ie. Pun, it actually has several meanings. But in this part of my statement was rhetorical and the humor was in the fact that I appeared on the site bringing up newbill again.....

[Jay Bee]

Hey scoopers, don't mean to open old wounds. I wanna ask you guys an honest question. But first lets put something to rest. The application to mu was not the reason newbill did not attend your fine university.

Why had he not submitted an application to the university?

[Lighthouse 84]

Oh and for the record hards_alum. I do know the meaning of paronomasia,  ie. Pun, it actually has several meanings. But in this part of my statement was rhetorical and the humor was in the fact that I appeared on the site bringing up newbill again.....

Humor would imply that something was funny.  If it was funny, I'd have laughed. 


As for submitting his application, JayBee's got the right question.  Why did Newbill just not submit his app?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Hey scoopers, don't mean to open old wounds. I wanna ask you guys an honest question. But first lets put something to rest. The application to mu was not the reason newbill did not attend your fine university. The availability of a bigger top 100 recruit, ie. Jamil Wilson was the reason. The application could have turned in a week before fall classes started. Now for my question. I think we all agree that psu sucks as a basketball program. But I'd like know your honest opinion of newbill's game...

He's a stud, wish we had him.  It's a guards game, we need better guards.  Newbill will play at the next level.

[NavinRJohnson]

But in this part of my statement was rhetorical and the humor was in the fact that I appeared on the site bringing up newbill again.....

That is funny.

[Hards Alumni]

By next level, do you mean the NBA?

If so, you guys are dead wrong.

[We R Final Four]

Did I miss the pun??????? either intended or not......

[BallBoy]

By next level, do you mean the NBA?

If so, you guys are dead wrong.

DJ has a very nice game but translation to the NBA is a different story.  I think he is as talented as many players who have made the league but he is handcuffed by PSU and SMU not making a post season.  Many of players have gotten overlooked for less.  I could see DJ going the Wesley Matthews/Vander Blue route if PSU doesn't make the tournament this year or next.

[murara1994]

He's a stud, wish we had him.  It's a guards game, we need better guards.  Newbill will play at the next level.

nm

[Aughnanure]

He's a stud, wish we had him.  It's a guards game, we need better guards.  Newbill will play at the next level.

Uh. No.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

dude woulda been graditated already.  He had a RS year when he transferred from So Miss to PSU.

[Jay Bee]

dude woulda been graditated already.  He had a RS year when he transferred from So Miss to PSU.

He a junior, bro. Not erbody gets through school in under foe like us.

[MerrittsMustache]

dude woulda been graditated already.  He had a RS year when he transferred from So Miss to PSU.

If he came to MU as intended, he'd likely still be a RS Jr. at Penn State this season.

[Silkk the Shaka]

I think it's more likely that we don't have Jamil Wilson OR Todd Mayo on the roster right now if Newbill was here. That said, he's definitely a very good scorer, and has been since day one in college. No one can deny that. And he also has that Buzz "came from nowhere/chip on his shoulder/no fear/hard nosed player mentality" that would have likely thrived here. Ultimately I think he may have ended up in a better situation at PSU anyway, where he can be "the man" and be relied upon to take 15+ shots a night. Better place to showcase his skills.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

We recognize his talent, enjoy watching him and   wish him well whatever the future brings

[NersEllenson]

Well I'll say this, you guess may be right. But as a coach the depth chart goes out the window when a guys proves himself to be better than other guys in practice and in games. Not saying dj would have done that at mu. But knowin his skill set and his heart, I personally think he would thrive on any team in the country if given the opportunity. He's the epitome of a hard nose Philly guard.

As I recall, Newbill was outplaying Blue in the summer Elite Camps by a decent margin.  His stats certainly showed he was a more polished advanced prospect than Vander..perhaps though not with the athletic upside.

I'm pretty sure DJ will make the NBA and will get good run.  He's got great size, and can shoot the ball well.  Physical player too.  Really too bad he didn't end up at MU.  Have no doubt he would have thrived here alongside Vander.

[Benny B]

Why had he not submitted an application to the university?

This.  This is what I'd like to know, strictly out of curiosity.

Nevertheless... PC, you're obviously a smart guy.  So you probably know that had DJ ended up at MU, he would have indirectly contributed to a major fight breaking out the night that several MU players were busted for being in a bar underage; although the blame wasn't his, being in the wrong place at the wrong time, he would have been the target of retaliation which would have prematurely ended his basketball career.  So by virtue of him not coming to MU, he still has a game, and his game must therefore be better than if he had turned in his MU application on time.  Something called the butterfly or butterjunk effect....

Honestly... I have not seen DJ play D-I ball.  I haven't seen highlights from the OSU game he's being lauded for this week.  But I have seen what others have written about him, and it genuinely seems like he's doing very well for himself.

So an even greater curiosity for me is the reason behind passively-aggressively trolling on Scoop under the guise of not wanting to open wounds.  The only wounds that exist are whatever ill towards MU you're still harboring and the minority opinions of chicken littles around here who insist that their hindsight is better than 20/20... any reasonable person can see that DJ has landed in a good spot and leave it at that.  Why do you care what we think of DJ?

[Jay Bee]

As I recall, Newbill was outplaying Blue in the summer Elite Camps by a decent margin.  His stats certainly showed he was a more polished advanced prospect than Vander..perhaps though not with the athletic upside.

What "summer Elite Camps" were these? What stats are you speaking about?

You guys are making stuff up.

There was something not right on the Newbill side. Some people saying it was the high school that hadn't sent something... others saying it was that he had drug his feet on the application... just doesn't make sense. Not saying Wilson's interest in MU didn't factor into the equation, but the giant leap (i.e., it was a cutthroat decision by MU) so many took is unfounded.

At any rate, Newbill has been very good this year playing alongside another high usage guard and super senior Tim Frazier. Last year he played out of position and forced a lot.. the end result was a bad year. Used in 31% of PSU's possessions while producing an ORtg of 92. He was the primary offensive option on a team whose offense was dead last in the Big Ten (12 teams) and was in the basement by a wide margin.

Nice year overall this year.. inconsistent though. He followed up the Illini game (in which he was ejected after igniting a bench clearing dust up by throwing a sucker punch at K-Nunn) with a 0 point, 0 assist, 0 rebound, 3 turnover, 5 foul performance at home in a 3 point loss to Minnesota.

But if you want to crown him...