Jake

[mileskishnish72]

I do not want to be seen as cutting up a kid who has worked hard, but today has put me over the edge. Jake cannot get open for a shot against good athletes (and that's who we're going to be seeing from here on), plays average defense, and does not create anything for his teammates on offense. He is playing SHOOTING guard, for God's sake. Mayo or Dawson should play - both of them SHOT today. I give Jake credit, he was a walk-on, he busted his ass, but he's at a level of competition that's beyond him.

[g0lden3agle]

When we run an offense for Jake he gets his shots, no matter how athletic the other team is.  It was pretty clear our game plan was to beat them up down low.  I remember one specific play for Jake and he got his shot, only problem is it was late in the game and he had no rhythm. You can't blame a guy when the game plan doesn't have him involved.

[Superfan]

The coach is the one who determines who plays and to what extent.  This is Buzz's loss.  At the end of regulation our 2 guard had not even taken a shot and our PG had 5 points.  No disrespect to these guys but we have not and cannot win with this tandem getting the minutes they do.

[77ncaachamps]

I second that.

Is it Buzz's fault for not drawing up plays for him? I guess that could be the case, but that also points to Jake being one-dimensional.

He plays his heart out but it doesn't help when he's really a second/third-tier player against first-tier players.
Jake can't take his man off the dribble, defend elite and bigger guards, and make his own shot.
So he has to play with his head. Which is fine but it's not going to overcome his inadequate athletic ability.

[forgetful]

When we run an offense for Jake he gets his shots, no matter how athletic the other team is.  It was pretty clear our game plan was to beat them up down low.  I remember one specific play for Jake and he got his shot, only problem is it was late in the game and he had no rhythm. You can't blame a guy when the game plan doesn't have him involved.

Agreed 100%.  Teams game plan to not let Jake have any space whatsoever, if they play hime that way it opens up lots of space for everyone else.  In exchange Jake won't get a look unless they screw up there game plan, or we specifically run a play to free him.

As you note, we did that once all game.

[DCWarriors04]

I counted at least 3 50/50 balls he just watched, and Lord only knows how many times someone moved him out of position to get a rebound.

[AZWarrior]

I'd like to see us scrap the offensive sets that involve CO or DG receiving the ball at the top of the key for some double screens designed to get Jake open for some threes.  

[Nevada233]

Its Buzz Williams loss....

Hes gotta eat that one.... Ran nothing for Jake...

and played him and our starting pg world class defender for 74 minutes... and got a ground breaking 6 points....

[mileskishnish72]

0-2 in half an hour of action says it all. One was a 3-pt brick, and I can't even remember the other one.

[Nevada233]

BUZZ MIGHT AS WELL GO WITH HIS BEST PLAYERS...
AND TRY TO WIN THE BIG EAST TOURNAMENT....

Thats the last chance we have... This season is going up in Flames

[CTWarrior]

I second that.

Is it Buzz's fault for not drawing up plays for him? I guess that could be the case, but that also points to Jake being one-dimensional.

He plays his heart out but it doesn't help when he's really a second/third-tier player against first-tier players.
Jake can't take his man off the dribble, defend elite and bigger guards, and make his own shot.
So he has to play with his head. Which is fine but it's not going to overcome his inadequate athletic ability.

You guys are rough.  We weren't running plays for Jake because our inside guys were getting single coverage so we were concentrating on getting the ball to them.  It's not like you can run one screen and get Jake open.  You've really got to use two screeners and I think Buzz would just rather we pound the ball inside.

[77ncaachamps]

You guys are rough.  We weren't running plays for Jake because our inside guys were getting single coverage so we were concentrating on getting the ball to them.  It's not like you can run one screen and get Jake open.  You've really got to use two screeners and I think Buzz would just rather we pound the ball inside.

But here's the problem I have with this: you SHOULDN'T HAVE to run plays for a starter like Jake.

IF you have to, it's because he's ONE-DIMENSIONAL. He can't shoot it on the bounce. He can't make his own shot. He can't drive it past his defender.

Those traits are NOT starter traits. But the fact he IS a starter says a lot about this team and Buzz.

[mileskishnish72]

CT, that's your usually perceptive observation. But just like a football team needs a balance to the running game and passing attack, a hoops team needs to be able to play in and out. With the two guards currently eating the bulk of the minutes, we ain't got much out.

[NersEllenson]

Jake Who?  Guy was a ghost today.  Can't play him with Derrick.  Funny how Jake plays much better with Dawson at the helm - how can a guy be so effective against another team with good backcourt - Georgetown - not even show up in the box score in 30 minutes today against Nova???

[CTWarrior]

But here's the problem I have with this: you SHOULDN'T HAVE to run plays for a starter like Jake.

IF you have to, it's because he's ONE-DIMENSIONAL. He can't shoot it on the bounce. He can't make his own shot. He can't drive it past his defender.

Those traits are NOT starter traits. But the fact he IS a starter says a lot about this team and Buzz.

No argument from me.  He does occupy an opposition defender at all times, though.  At least that helps make room for others.  That is a contribution of a sort.

[CTWarrior]

CT, that's your usually perceptive observation. But just like a football team needs a balance to the running game and passing attack, a hoops team needs to be able to play in and out. With the two guards currently eating the bulk of the minutes, we ain't got much out.

Agreed.

[77ncaachamps]

No argument from me.  He does occupy an opposition defender at all times, though.  At least that helps make room for others.  That is a contribution of a sort.

That's pittance.

JJJ can "occupy" a defender.
Deonte can "occupy" a defender.
Flood can "occupy" a defender.

NOT A STARTER.

Time to look forward to the future and get the next crop of kids significant minutes.
Or else lose them.

I predict two transfers at the end of the year: JJJ and Dawson.

[Superfan]

We are in sad shape if that justify's a guy being a starter.

[MU_LOL]

You guys are rough.  We weren't running plays for Jake because our inside guys were getting single coverage so we were concentrating on getting the ball to them.  It's not like you can run one screen and get Jake open.  You've really got to use two screeners and I think Buzz would just rather we pound the ball inside.

Haha.

[CTWarrior]

We are in sad shape if that justify's a guy being a starter.

To be clear, I don't think that justifies making him a starter.  He's a classic off the bench shooter who can catch a defense off guard.  The other thing is that the guy who is chasing him on D doesn't have to be a particularly good defender, just diligent.

Combine him with Derrick, and it is possible, if you are so inclined, to use your best perimeter defender as a one man disruptive zone within a man-to-man defense.

[madtownwarrior]

lots of grumbling on Buzz's choice of lineup on the way out of the Bradley....

Its Buzz Williams loss....

Hes gotta eat that one.... Ran nothing for Jake...

and played him and our starting pg world class defender for 74 minutes... and got a ground breaking 6 points....

[DaCoach]

When we run an offense for Jake he gets his shots, no matter how athletic the other team is.  It was pretty clear our game plan was to beat them up down low.  I remember one specific play for Jake and he got his shot, only problem is it was late in the game and he had no rhythm. You can't blame a guy when the game plan doesn't have him involved.

If Jake isn't part of the offensive game plan, can anyone justify playing him? He's slow footed, defensively challenged against quicker players who can drive, can't get his own shots because he goes soft around his picks and honestly takes playing time away from better players.

On the other hand, he's a swell guy who works hard in practice and is a senior. i'd like to think this year is over and with 4 seniors starting along with a subpar PG, we'd be better served getting more playing time for our returning players.

[Earl Tatum]

Who lost his man on that last play of regulation? Definitely a screw up.

[79Warrior]

But here's the problem I have with this: you SHOULDN'T HAVE to run plays for a starter like Jake.

IF you have to, it's because he's ONE-DIMENSIONAL. He can't shoot it on the bounce. He can't make his own shot. He can't drive it past his defender.

Those traits are NOT starter traits. But the fact he IS a starter says a lot about this team and Buzz.

Agree 100%. I doubt he starts on ANY other BE team.

[Nevada233]

That's pittance.

JJJ can "occupy" a defender.
Deonte can "occupy" a defender.
Flood can "occupy" a defender.

NOT A STARTER.

Time to look forward to the future and get the next crop of kids significant minutes.
Or else lose them.

I predict two transfers at the end of the year: JJJ and Dawson.

yeah... Ive seen enought to know... one of them can get quality minutes... elsewhere....