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Quote from: BCHoopster on January 26, 2014, 09:40:36 AM
If Duane wanted to transfer he should have left already as he would have to sit out again next year, he wants to be a pro, I do not see it either.

Hope you're right (and I have no information that you're not) but maybe there's not an open scholarship at the schools that Duane is considering and maybe his family doesn't have the means to pay his way for a semester. And if we're really looking at Jarvis Garrett for 2014 he would likely replace a point guard on the roster.

Aircraftcarrier

Do I think there was differences in the Wilson camp with Buzz.-Yes

Do I think that is worked out.- Possibly

Do I think Duane Wilson would have been the first to reach out to Luke Fischer and encourage him to transfer to MU if Duane knew himself that he was leaving MU after this year.- Absolutely not.

Archies Bat

Quote from: thanooj on January 25, 2014, 09:53:05 AM
I wasn't going to bring this topic up but now that it's here... Just like the  "my best friends cousin" line of sources, I have a source linked to Dominican that talked to Duane's dad and he said DW was forced to redshirt because buzz doesn't like him because he's selfish and uncoachable.  Said they're looking at FSU and Clemson as possibles to transfer to. I called BS but if others are hearing things.

Also heard, and I really hope it's crap, that stone doesn't like Wilson. And it might be one or the other at marquette. Like merrit and d Harris.

If he does end up going to FSU, I hope he has better dietary habits than other FSU recruits from Milwaukee.

Goose

DuWil beats out Dawson by wide margin. He is far more advanced player than Dawson and highly doubt the competition is scaring him at all. The kid is high level PG and will have great D1 career.

BCHoopster

Watching Duane on the bench, it looks like he is a good teammate, not pouting sitting there.  I think the year out for all freshman is good for maturity, weight room, etc.  All 3 frosh seem to
be OK with there teammates, it is hard being a frosh.  Wait till next year, there is lots of bodies that will want to play, 13, if all are healthy 4 will not see to much court time.  Same discussion
next year.  Next year you have 3 average seniors, think they will be happy sitting?

Fisher, Pierce
Burton, Taylor
Juan, Shayok, JJJ
Mayo, Cohen, Hill
Wilson, Dawson, Wilson

I can see all 3 seniors having playing problems as all 3 will not be difference makers, except maybe Todd.  If Derrick gets the majority of minutes next year, they will have the same problem
as this year, 4 on 5.


Otule's Glass Eye

For a past example, I look at Jamal Ferguson from last year. When something good would happen, like a big play, he showed no emotion and seemed to be tuned out and not caring. I have not seen that this year from JJJ, Duane, Steve, Dawson, or any other guys you CONSTANTLY talk about transferring. Please stop talking about it and just wait to see what happens. We don't want any of the players to see these false rumors.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 25, 2014, 06:58:43 PM
Derrick is just not a startin' point guard at this level. He is what he is. In the scheme of life, it ain't no big deal.

Well said.  Seems like a good kid, capable of playing at this level but just not in that role.  Backup PG, 10-15 min a game.

The Equalizer

Quote from: Heisenberg on January 26, 2014, 09:39:56 AM
Boy are you confused ...

He was recruited over in his position in his same class.  Duane is supposed to feel disrespected because we recruited a 3* PG from NM?  Are we supposed to not recruit any PG until he leaves? Duane is not good enough to beat any of these guys out?

I think you're confused.  Duane was, in fact, overrecruted. That's what we call it when a coach recruits another player at the same position.

Are we supposed to not recruit any PG until he leaves?  No, but there's a big difference beteween recruiting another PG after Derrick graduates when Duane is a junior, and recruiting aonther one as part of the same class before he steps foot on campus.

Quote from: Heisenberg on January 26, 2014, 09:39:56 AM
Buzz has another Top 100 PG (Noskowiak) arriving in what will now be Duane's sophomore year.  And Dawson will still be here (and for the next two years).   Noskowiak has no problem coming knowing that Duane will be here.  If Noskowiak thinks he can beat him out, then maybe Duane should transfer to Whitewater.


If Noskowiak comes to MU thinking that he will beat Duane for the starting role and  lion's share of PG minutes, wouldn't you grant that its possible that Duane sees the exact same writing on the wall, making a transfer more likely?  

Ellenson Guerrero

Quote from: The Equalizer on January 26, 2014, 01:48:40 PM
I think you're confused.  Duane was, in fact, overrecruted. That's what we call it when a coach recruits another player at the same position.

Are we supposed to not recruit any PG until he leaves?  No, but there's a big difference beteween recruiting another PG after Derrick graduates when Duane is a junior, and recruiting aonther one as part of the same class before he steps foot on campus.

If Noskowiak comes to MU thinking that he will beat Duane for the starting role and  lion's share of PG minutes, wouldn't you grant that its possible that Duane sees the exact same writing on the wall, making a transfer more likely?  


I think you underestimate the amount of confidence players have in themselves. If we had landed Tyus Jones, okay, then I can see Duane being concerned about his future PT. But if Duane doesn't think he can beat out John Dawson and Nick Noskowiak for the starting gig, then he has bigger problems than his future PT.
"What we take for-granted, others pray for..." - Brent Williams 3/30/14

GGGG

There were a fair number of people who believed that Duane was more of a combo guard than a true point guard. 

The Equalizer

Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on January 26, 2014, 02:00:09 PM
I think you underestimate the amount of confidence players have in themselves. If we had landed Tyus Jones, okay, then I can see Duane being concerned about his future PT. But if Duane doesn't think he can beat out John Dawson and Nick Noskowiak for the starting gig, then he has bigger problems than his future PT.

Wouldn't that same confidence lead him to believe that he could save MU's season if he gave up the redshirt and took over as PG for the rest of the season?   

AirPunches

Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on January 26, 2014, 02:05:21 PM
There were a fair number of people who believed that Duane was more of a combo guard than a true point guard. 

The same could be said for Dawson, no ?

79Warrior

Quote from: willie warrior on January 26, 2014, 10:06:16 AM
I do not believe that Wilson will transfer, but with Buzzo, who really knows? There is something wrong with this RS that is not being explained. Have not heard one word from the kid, but plenty of rumors from others. Why hasn't Duane said publically that he wanted to RS? Could it be because Buzzo forced it on him? No, guess not--Buzz would never do that.

The young man does not owe you any explanation. He is a 19 year old college student. Why do you feel he owes you any comment on his situation. What he does or does not do is up to him, his family and the coaches. You have no bearing on this nor does any fan

Tums Festival

Quote from: Utile et Dulce on January 25, 2014, 08:13:46 PM
The don't make fanatics more passionate about their team than Skat.

So spreading rumors that raise the anxiety level of the fan base during a down year is "passionate"...what dictionary are you using? I'd call it destructive.
"Every day ends with a Tums festival!"

GGGG

Another option for Duane would be to transfer to a Juco...and then another four year school with three years remaining.

Not saying that I have heard anything related to that, but it is a possibility that someone in another forum mentioned.

NersEllenson

Quote from: Goose on January 26, 2014, 10:44:29 AM
DuWil beats out Dawson by wide margin. He is far more advanced player than Dawson and highly doubt the competition is scaring him at all. The kid is high level PG and will have great D1 career.

That's a pretty bold statement.  Dawson has a much better body to play at this level already - much stronger than Duane.  Duane needs to add about 15 pounds.  Early word out of practice was that Duane was struggling in a number of areas - Buzz said the potential is there - but that he had a LONG way to go.

Playing D-4 High School Ball in Wisconsin isn't exactly a great barometer for how a kid is going to be able to come in and contribute as a freshman right away.  Dawson is a very good prospect.  Think he and Duane could play really well TOGETHER moving forward..

"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup

Quote from: madtownwarrior on January 25, 2014, 04:46:52 PM
before the Villanova game I thought no way...  watching Buzz trot offensively challenged lineups over and over and over - why would these kids stay...

Blind squirrels occasionally find nuts, but I see no reason why these freshman would leave if the issue is PT. So many minutes available for underclassmen next year.
“These guys in this locker room are all warriors -- every one of them. We ought to change our name back from the Golden Eagles because Warriors are what we really are." ~Wesley Matthews

77ncaachamps

John at PG.
Duane at SG.

Heck, play all 4 like Nova and we may be playing fast MU ball again.
SS Marquette

nathanziarek

Quote from: Heavy Gear on January 26, 2014, 02:50:03 PM
So spreading rumors that raise the anxiety level of the fan base during a down year is "passionate"...what dictionary are you using? I'd call it destructive.

Wow. You guys don't relent, do you? He had some information and shared it. He's not rooting for Duane to leave.

I know the guy and he loves Marquette University and the men's basketball team. It's really pretty funny how much malice we assign on this board.
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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Utile et Dulce on January 26, 2014, 08:33:35 PM

I know the guy and he loves Marquette University and the men's basketball team. It's really pretty funny how much malice we assign on this board.

Been going on a long time around here....don't say the right thing and you're not a fan or told to cheer for someone else, etc, etc.  Long long time.

THEultimateWARRIOR

Duane absolutely loves Marquette. He is the point guard of our future. The only place he's going is the NBA after a successful career at MU.

Sunbelt15

Quote from: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on January 26, 2014, 07:54:39 PM
Blind squirrels occasionally find nuts, but I see no reason why these freshman would leave if the issue is PT. So many minutes available for underclassmen next year.

Because upperclassmen gets the benefit here. We already see it this year.

willie warrior

Quote from: 79Warrior on January 26, 2014, 02:41:08 PM
The young man does not owe you any explanation. He is a 19 year old college student. Why do you feel he owes you any comment on his situation. What he does or does not do is up to him, his family and the coaches. You have no bearing on this nor does any fan
Her's why: Because I do not buy into the circuitous Buzzspeak--let the kid say he wanted to RS. If he doesn't the rumors/speculation continue, which is cancerous. And why do you blindly subscribe to what Buzz says? Did you buy the Brooklyn Bridge? And by the way, I never said he owes me an explanation. He owes the fans an explanation.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

willie warrior

Quote from: THEultimateWARRIOR on January 26, 2014, 11:35:00 PM
Duane absolutely loves Marquette. He is the point guard of our future. The only place he's going is the NBA after a successful career at MU.
Now that is good news!
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: Utile et Dulce on January 26, 2014, 08:33:35 PM
Wow. You guys don't relent, do you? He had some information and shared it. He's not rooting for Duane to leave.

I know the guy and he loves Marquette University and the men's basketball team. It's really pretty funny how much malice we assign on this board.

There is no real benefit for making that prediction or posting that rumor right now.

His transfer isn't imminent.

It's not really news.

It just stirs people up and ultimately could get back to the player(s), which is less than ideal.

I'm not questioning anybody's fanhood, I'm questioning their discretion.

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