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thehammock

I'll stick with my prediction that he's not going anywhere but I've also heard the rumors/rumblings.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: madtownwarrior on January 25, 2014, 04:46:52 PM
before the Villanova game I thought no way...  watching Buzz trot offensively challenged lineups over and over and over - why would these kids stay...


Seems like a logical response.


79Warrior

Quote from: brandx on January 25, 2014, 12:19:46 PM
As I said, these guys wouldn't be anywhere near a Marquette uniform if they told Buzz they were transferring.



I don't agree with your comment. The last thing any coach wants to do is burn bridges within the recruiting trails. Buzz is a pro. If the young man said he is leaving, what would Buzz gain by banishing him, unless his conduct is detrimental to the team. I have more respect for a coach that would allow a kid to continue to stay and learn. What is to be gained by booting him? Assuming any of this is true, DW is still with the team now and likely with Buzz's blessing. Hopefully he is a Warrior in the future, if not wish him well and move on.

madtownwarrior

imagine what we could score if we had a PG who could score or create for others and a SG who could actually register a tally in the pts column?


Quote from: wadesworld on January 25, 2014, 04:56:57 PM
Offensively challenged lineups?  Not sure what game you were watching, but the offense after the first 4 minutes was not the problem.  We scored 77 points in regulation.  If it's constantly an offensively challenged lineup, wouldn't we be more towards the 35 we scored against Ohio State?  77 points is not bad at all.  The defensive side of the court...well, that's another case.

wadesworld

Quote from: madtownwarrior on January 25, 2014, 06:40:53 PM
imagine what we could score if we had a PG who could score or create for others and a SG who could actually register a tally in the pts column?



7 assists isn't creating for others?  Todd didn't score?

madtownwarrior

starting SG - 0 pts.    Todd rides bench most of game and then rescues the game - scratching head on that one....

so 70 plus minutes between Wilson and Thomas and 6 pts is good in your book?    at 11 - 9, it's really workin gwith Wilson leading the team, keep defending him...



Quote from: wadesworld on January 25, 2014, 06:42:59 PM
7 assists isn't creating for others?  Todd didn't score?

wadesworld

Quote from: madtownwarrior on January 25, 2014, 06:52:50 PM
starting SG - 0 pts.    Todd rides bench most of game and then rescues the game - scratching head on that one....

so 70 plus minutes between Wilson and Thomas and 6 pts is good in your book?    at 11 - 9, it's really workin gwith Wilson leading the team, keep defending him...




You just completely changed your argument.  Well done, you win.

madtownwarrior

I started with offensively challenged that you challenged - 6 pts in 70+ minutes from 2 starters is not offensively challenged?


Quote from: wadesworld on January 25, 2014, 06:56:07 PM
You just completely changed your argument.  Well done, you win.

4everwarriors

Derrick is just not a startin' point guard at this level. He is what he is. In the scheme of life, it ain't no big deal.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

wadesworld

Quote from: madtownwarrior on January 25, 2014, 06:57:31 PM
I started with offensively challenged that you challenged - 6 pts in 70+ minutes from 2 starters is not offensively challenged?



No, you said we don't have a point guard who can create shots for other people.  I said our point guard gave us 7 assists against the #4 team in the country today.  Seems to me that he created shots for others.  7 assists is quite a few.

You also said we did not have a shooting guard who could put a tally in the points column.  Todd had 10 in 30 seconds and 18 points overall for the game.  Seems to me he had quite a few tallies in the points column.

Then in your next post you said our point guard and shooting guard combined for 6 points.  Totally different argument.

madtownwarrior

last post - 6 pts in 70+ minutes from 2 starters, all is good...




Quote from: wadesworld on January 25, 2014, 07:05:42 PM
No, you said we don't have a point guard who can create shots for other people.  I said our point guard gave us 7 assists against the #4 team in the country today.  Seems to me that he created shots for others.  7 assists is quite a few.

You also said we did not have a shooting guard who could put a tally in the points column.  Todd had 10 in 30 seconds and 18 points overall for the game.  Seems to me he had quite a few tallies in the points column.

Then in your next post you said our point guard and shooting guard combined for 6 points.  Totally different argument.

wadesworld

Quote from: madtownwarrior on January 25, 2014, 07:07:39 PM
last post - 6 pts in 70+ minutes from 2 starters, all is good...





Exactly my point.  You changed your argument completely.

nathanziarek

Quote from: Heavy Gear on January 25, 2014, 12:17:30 PMObviously the original poster is no fan of the Marquette program.

The don't make fanatics more passionate about their team than Skat.
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KenoshaWarrior

So next year the following players are gone JJJ,Dawson,StJ, Du Wilson.?  Might as well be a poor mans Kentucky with roster turnover like that.

Speaking of the term "poor mans". I loved Brian Wardles pre draft comparison. Poor mans Dan Majerle.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on January 25, 2014, 08:18:30 PM
So next year the following players are gone JJJ,Dawson,StJ, Du Wilson.?  Might as well be a poor mans Kentucky with roster turnover like that.

Speaking of the term "poor mans". I loved Brian Wardles pre draft comparison. Poor mans Dan Majerle.

Don't forget Mayo!

The only way I see this being true is if Dawson was going to be ahead of him on the depth chart. In which case, he should transfer, best of luck to him and may he find greener pastures. But I wouldn't lose any sleep over it because all my team would be losing is a third string PG when Derrick Wilson is the number 1.
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TAMU

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The Equalizer

Quote from: MURFC on January 25, 2014, 09:46:20 AM
Interesting rumor, but doesn't really make sense. Based on what Buzz has stated to the media, I would surprised if he had any shot at a medical waiver.  He is participating in practices, dressing for games, and it has been noted by Buzz that he could be used in an emergency situation.  Makes quite the high hurdle to qualify for the (non-guaranteed) waiver, doesn't it?.  Also, Marquette has publicly stated that he is using a redshirt.  Would that lock him in?

With that fact pattern, I would be shocked to see him transfer....not playing again until 2016...doesn't make sense.  Especially with the minutes becoming avialable and talent we have.

Actually, it makes a lot of sense.

--He was recruited over in his position in his same class (he committed first, Buzz later decided he also needed Dawson).
--What type of player of any reasonable talent and no medical issue would decide to preserve his 2017-18 eligiblity when his team is struggling specifically because of a lack of talent at one's natural position?  Its not like he's fighting for minutes behind Davante Gardner.
--Next year the PG position won't be any more settled. If you can't beat out Wilson and Dawson now, what makes you think you'll get more minutes next year.
--Buzz has another Top 100 PG (Noskowiak) arriving in what will now be Duane's sophomore year.  And Dawson will still be here (and for the next two years).
--Buzz is continuing to look at additional PGs, to arrive as early as next year (which barring transfer would put 4 PGs on the roster for next season.
--The team is already overcommitted for next year, so we know someone currently projected to be here won't be around.

Boone

Derrick had 7 assists?! There's either some serious home cooking going on and/or the MU stats crew is incompetent. 

GGGG

Quote from: The Equalizer on January 25, 2014, 09:24:24 PM

--The team is already overcommitted for next year, so we know someone currently projected to be here won't be around.



Just remember that Malek Harris has yet to sign his LOI.

Goose

I would be very surprised if Wilson ends up leaving.

Aircraftcarrier

I would be very surprised too.Duane obviously had alot to do with Luke Fischer transferring here.Duane is a smart kid.I am sure he is frustrated with the injury.He wants to play.Any competitor would.He knows the pg position is wide open and if he delivers he will get most of the minutes.I think any guard is also apprehensive when he sees no quality bigs on the roster after this year.Then McKay leaves and it is magnified,but with Luke Fischer here now and possibly Diamond Stone it is a whole new ball game for a point guard.Duane will see many open looks with Fischer and Stone in the game.A point guards dream.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: The Equalizer on January 25, 2014, 09:24:24 PM
Actually, it makes a lot of sense.

--He was recruited over in his position in his same class (he committed first, Buzz later decided he also needed Dawson).
--What type of player of any reasonable talent and no medical issue would decide to preserve his 2017-18 eligiblity when his team is struggling specifically because of a lack of talent at one's natural position?  Its not like he's fighting for minutes behind Davante Gardner.
--Next year the PG position won't be any more settled. If you can't beat out Wilson and Dawson now, what makes you think you'll get more minutes next year.
--Buzz has another Top 100 PG (Noskowiak) arriving in what will now be Duane's sophomore year.  And Dawson will still be here (and for the next two years).
--Buzz is continuing to look at additional PGs, to arrive as early as next year (which barring transfer would put 4 PGs on the roster for next season.
--The team is already overcommitted for next year, so we know someone currently projected to be here won't be around.

Boy are you confused ...

He was recruited over in his position in his same class.  Duane is supposed to feel disrespected because we recruited a 3* PG from NM?  Are we supposed to not recruit any PG until he leaves? Duane is not good enough to beat any of these guys out?

talent and no medical issue?  Are you not paying attention?  He broke his freaking leg!!!!  Only in the last 10 days has he been able to go full practice.  

If you can't beat out Wilson and Dawson now, what makes you think you'll get more minutes next year. Well I have issues with Dwill and Dawson but they are better than Duane with a broken leg.  Further if he cannot beat out Dwill and/or Dawson than he should transfer to UWM or Green Bay.

Buzz has another Top 100 PG (Noskowiak) arriving in what will now be Duane's sophomore year.  And Dawson will still be here (and for the next two years).   Noskowiak has no problem coming knowing that Duane will be here.  If Noskowiak thinks he can beat him out, then maybe Duane should transfer to Whitewater.

BCHoopster

Quote from: Aircraftcarrier on January 26, 2014, 09:35:29 AM
I would be very surprised too.Duane obviously had alot to do with Luke Fischer transferring here.Duane is a smart kid.I am sure he is frustrated with the injury.He wants to play.Any competitor would.He knows the pg position is wide open and if he delivers he will get most of the minutes.I think any guard is also apprehensive when he sees no quality bigs on the roster after this year.Then McKay leaves and it is magnified,but with Luke Fischer here now and possibly Diamond Stone it is a whole new ball game for a point guard.Duane will see many open looks with Fischer and Stone in the game.A point guards dream.

If Duane wanted to transfer he should have left already as he would have to sit out again next year, he wants to be a pro, I do not see it either.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: Utile et Dulce on January 25, 2014, 08:13:46 PM
The don't make fanatics more passionate about their team than Skat.

Stop it, you're making me blush ;)

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: thanooj on January 25, 2014, 09:53:05 AM
I wasn't going to bring this topic up but now that it's here... Just like the  "my best friends cousin" line of sources, I have a source linked to Dominican that talked to Duane's dad and he said DW was forced to redshirt because buzz doesn't like him because he's selfish and uncoachable.  Said they're looking at FSU and Clemson as possibles to transfer to. I called BS but if others are hearing things.

Also heard, and I really hope it's crap, that stone doesn't like Wilson. And it might be one or the other at marquette. Like merrit and d Harris.

Ok, if we assume he is leaving because he cannot beat out Dwill and Dawson for time at the 1 ...

He going to FSU?  Remember he would sit another year and then have to beat out Soph Aaron Thomas (12 ppg, 42% 3FG) who is tons better than Dwill or Dawson.  And if they get JaQuan Lyle, a recruit that has offers from Kansas and Uconn, he'll beat him out but not Dawson?

He's going to Clemson?  A team that missed the NCAA that last 2 years.  A team that is in the ACC meaning if everything breaks their way, they will finish between 7 and 12 in the conference.  Good luck on Tourney Sunday.  Oh, and they are over-signed by 2 for next year too.

willie warrior

I do not believe that Wilson will transfer, but with Buzzo, who really knows? There is something wrong with this RS that is not being explained. Have not heard one word from the kid, but plenty of rumors from others. Why hasn't Duane said publically that he wanted to RS? Could it be because Buzzo forced it on him? No, guess not--Buzz would never do that.
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