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muwar2003

You CAN'T play Derrick Wilson.  Wilson had the ball with time running out 3 or 4 times during the game.  He missed the shot or lost possession everytime.  He is the last player on the team that should have the ball with times running out.  Wilson is a back- up point guard that should play about 7-8 minutes a game.  There is no leader out there.  Buzz has to play JJJ or he is gone.  He can't do any worse that Wilson and Thomas.  Thomas should be playing for Stout or La Crosse.  Otule had the play under and had his shot blocked twice by a 6"6 player.  They are usually playing 3 on 5 on offense.

rocky_warrior

JJJ is hurt (ankle).  So I guess you're kinda clueless too  ;D

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: muwar2003 on January 18, 2014, 03:31:08 PM
You CAN'T play Derrick Wilson.  Wilson had the ball with time running out 3 or 4 times during the game.  He missed the shot or lost possession everytime.  He is the last player on the team that should have the ball with times running out.  Wilson is a back- up point guard that should play about 7-8 minutes a game.  There is no leader out there.  Buzz has to play JJJ or he is gone.  He can't do any worse that Wilson and Thomas.  Thomas should be playing for Stout or La Crosse.  Otule had the play under and had his shot blocked twice by a 6"6 player.  They are usually playing 3 on 5 on offense.

This is a Scoop Hall of Fame bad post.

1) Derrik Wilson was probably the best player on the floor for the entirety of the game today.
2) who would you have playing PG?

chapman

Derrick Wilson was our best offensive player today.  If he was a problem, there were seven or eight larger ones.

Quote from: muwar2003 on January 18, 2014, 03:31:08 PMOtule had the play under and had his shot blocked twice by a 6"6 player. 

Will give you this.  Always amazed at how many times he gets blocked.

Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on January 18, 2014, 03:35:45 PM
This is a Scoop Hall of Fame bad post.

1) Derrik Wilson was probably the best player on the floor for the entirety of the game today.
2) who would you have playing PG?

Derrick Wilson will never be the best player on the floor. His shortcomings affect the entire team and will continue to all season. Guards win in college basketball and ours are terrible.

CTWarrior

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on January 18, 2014, 03:35:45 PM
This is a Scoop Hall of Fame bad post.

1) Derrik Wilson was probably the best player on the floor for the entirety of the game today.
2) who would you have playing PG?
1)  Derrick was actually aggressive today, which was good to see.  He was not particularly effective after the first few minutes, however.
2)  Unfortunately, agree 100%.  Still think if we get down by 2 scores with less than 2 minutes, he has to come out to force the defense to play honest.

That stretch when he and Anderson were in together when Butler took off was particularly galling.  Butler ignored both of them and we were playing 3 on 5.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

keefe

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on January 18, 2014, 03:35:45 PM
1) Derrik Wilson was probably the best player on the floor for the entirety of the game today.

That, in itself, is a very telling statement. Meminger weeps.


Death on call

willie warrior

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on January 18, 2014, 03:35:45 PM
This is a Scoop Hall of Fame bad post.

1) Derrik Wilson was probably the best player on the floor for the entirety of the game today.
2) who would you have playing PG?
Wilson allows the other team to pack it in. We can't make 3s. Wilson had 4 TO's and was virtually unguarded. Not the best player on the floor.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

brandx

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on January 18, 2014, 03:35:45 PM
This is a Scoop Hall of Fame bad post.

1) Derrik Wilson was probably the best player on the floor for the entirety of the game today.
2) who would you have playing PG?

You are N E V E R the best player on the floor when the other team doesn't even bother guarding you.

WarriorFan

One thing happened for certain today.  Dawson proved why he's not getting minutes in important games.  It's not that I don't like his potential, it's just that he made too many freshman mistakes.
"The meaning of life isn't gnashing our bicuspids over what comes after death but tasting the tiny moments that come before it."

GGGG

I wouldn't call him the best player on the floor, but Derrick Wilson wasn't the problem.

How about two off guards that can't hit a shot to save their lives?  How about only four bench points, and all four of them were in garbage time?

Where's Juan?  Where's Deonte?  

CTWarrior

Quote from: WarriorFan on January 18, 2014, 03:45:38 PM
One thing happened for certain today.  Dawson proved why he's not getting minutes in important games.  It's not that I don't like his potential, it's just that he made too many freshman mistakes.

He was strangely slow and tentative in his very few minutes today.  I know most of you won't agree, but the one pass he threw into the middle of the lane that was stolen was at least partly Gardner's fault.  He assumed he wasn't getting the pass and started through the lane early rather than looking for the pass.  Part of that is that he is not used to people hitting him with the pass there.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

CTWarrior

Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on January 18, 2014, 03:46:53 PM
I wouldn't call him the best player on the floor, but Derrick Wilson wasn't the problem.

How about two off guards that can't hit a shot to save their lives?  How about only four bench points, and all four of them were in garbage time?

Where's Juan?  Where's Deonte?  

Agree that today Derrick was not the biggest problem.  He does make it hard for Gardner, but besides Gardner, our other "scorers" got many wide open looks and just couldn't convert.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

Aircraftcarrier

Mu has to many so called athletes and not enough basketball players.

Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on January 18, 2014, 03:46:53 PM
I wouldn't call him the best player on the floor, but Derrick Wilson wasn't the problem.

How about two off guards that can't hit a shot to save their lives?  How about only four bench points, and all four of them were in garbage time?

Where's Juan?  Where's Deonte?  

He isn't the only problem we have, but he is a problem every game he plays because he can't/won't shoot outside shots. There is a reason this team is terrible and he is at the top of the list. He is the leader of a stagnant offense and we will be the same team again next year unless we find someone else to play PG.

wojosdojo

I'd be interested to see the stats on when MU shoots in the first 15 seconds of the shot clock rather than the last 15. It seems when they shoot early in the possession they have a much high ppp. Marquette has always been athletic which makes sense for them to run the floor quick. The longer they hold the ball (and are in a set) the more clueless they look.

humanlung

Quote from: mubuzz on January 18, 2014, 03:59:39 PM
He isn't the only problem we have, but he is a problem every game he plays because he can't/won't shoot outside shots. There is a reason this team is terrible and he is at the top of the list. He is the leader of a stagnant offense and we will be the same team again next year unless we find someone else to play PG.

Wilson, Duane.  Come on down, you're the next contestant on "Next Season Will Be Right".

And I have said it before, next years team will benefit greatly from the absence of this years senior leadership.

ecompt

when Derrick, Juan and Thomas are on the court together, this is the one of the worst offenses in Division I.

humanlung

Quote from: ecompt on January 18, 2014, 04:08:43 PM
when Derrick, Juan and Thomas are on the court together, this is the one of the worst offenses in Division I.

To call what we run with them on the floor a bad "offense" is insulting to bad offenses everywhere.

MU86NC

was mayo playing on Butlers team...

ecompt

Quote from: MU86NC on January 18, 2014, 04:19:46 PM
was mayo playing on Butlers team...

He played as if he simply didn't care today.

bilsu

Quote from: muwar2003 on January 18, 2014, 03:31:08 PM
You CAN'T play Derrick Wilson.  Wilson had the ball with time running out 3 or 4 times during the game.  He missed the shot or lost possession everytime.  He is the last player on the team that should have the ball with times running out.  Wilson is a back- up point guard that should play about 7-8 minutes a game.  There is no leader out there.  Buzz has to play JJJ or he is gone.  He can't do any worse that Wilson and Thomas.  Thomas should be playing for Stout or La Crosse.  Otule had the play under and had his shot blocked twice by a 6"6 player.  They are usually playing 3 on 5 on offense.
He was a big reason we had the lead.

79Warrior

Quote from: ecompt on January 18, 2014, 04:08:43 PM
when Derrick, Juan and Thomas are on the court together, this is the one of the worst offenses in Division I.

Ding Ding Ding!!! Thomas at least can occasionally get hot, BUT no way should DW and JA play together. Those two are absolutely no offensive threat and don't even get guarded. Just brutal.

GGGG

Derrick Wilson was the only Warrior to shoot ever 40% today.  And he played about 40 minutes of defense on Butler's leading scorer, and actually was outscoring him for most of the game.

Seriously if you are going to criticize Derrick, this isn't exactly the day to do it.

Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on January 18, 2014, 04:51:21 PM
Derrick Wilson was the only Warrior to shoot ever 40% today.  And he played about 40 minutes of defense on Butler's leading scorer, and actually was outscoring him for most of the game.

Seriously if you are going to criticize Derrick, this isn't exactly the day to do it.

Since this year is done, do you believe next year that Derrick should be our stating PG and if yes do you think he is capable of being a net positive player?

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