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GGGG

Quote from: mubuzz on January 18, 2014, 04:55:49 PM
Since this year is done, do you believe next year that Derrick should be our stating PG and if yes do you think he is capable of being a net positive player?


He will be the starting PG next year.  I expect that he will improve.  I would love to see Duane or Dawson being so good that they take the reigns from him, but I doubt it will happen.

Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on January 18, 2014, 05:08:28 PM

He will be the starting PG next year.  I expect that he will improve.  I would love to see Duane or Dawson being so good that they take the reigns from him, but I doubt it will happen.

I also believe that Buzz will start him next year. I honestly don't think that he will improve much if at all...I would think your progression as a player between your jr and sr years would be the least out of all the years. When your a freshman and sophomore you are still "young" but once you are almost done with your jr year, I think you are the player you're going to be for the most part. Sure he could improve his ft shooting moderately maybe, but won't develop into a playmaker/distributor if he hasn't already. Hope I'm wrong cuz this has been a very hard yr to stomach.

ecompt

Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on January 18, 2014, 05:08:28 PM

He will be the starting PG next year.  I expect that he will improve.  I would love to see Duane or Dawson being so good that they take the reigns from him, but I doubt it will happen.

There is no way in hell Derrick improves. You don't become a good shooter when you are 22 after missing badly the first 21 years of your life. We can get away with his not being as threat as long as Juan is never on the court at the same time and Mayo gets his head out of his derriere.

GGGG

Quote from: ecompt on January 18, 2014, 05:19:30 PM
There is no way in hell Derrick improves. You don't become a good shooter when you are 22 after missing badly the first 21 years of your life. We can get away with his not being as threat as long as Juan is never on the court at the same time and Mayo gets his head out of his derriere.


???  Where did I say he would become a good shooter.  I said he would "improve."

You don't think basketball players can get better after 22?

4everwarriors

The only problem with this team is L.O.F.T.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Otule's Glass Eye

Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on January 18, 2014, 05:21:36 PM

???  Where did I say he would become a good shooter.  I said he would "improve."

You don't think basketball players can get better after 22?

The thing Derrick needs to improve the most is his shooting. He is a solid defensive player and adequate passer but his offense is pretty bad. If he doesn't improve his offense next year then he hasn't improved at all.

madtownwarrior

That's why next year is not looking so good - Buzz starting Derrick at PG (yes, he'll improve but really how good can he get from where he is now?), we lose Devante.   Our Senior leadership is Mayo, Juan Anderson and Derrick - yikes.   


Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on January 18, 2014, 05:08:28 PM

He will be the starting PG next year.  I expect that he will improve.  I would love to see Duane or Dawson being so good that they take the reigns from him, but I doubt it will happen.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Derrick scores double digits...apparently he's still the reason we lost. I know you all want a single thing to blame for our woes this year, but there isn't one.

Derrick will improve next season. I don't think he will magically be a better scorer, but he will be better than he is this year. This is first year as a stating PG. Ya'll remember how terrible Junior was when he took over the reins as the starting PG? Being a starting PG and a backup PG is two different things. He will learn from this year and be better the next.

Hopefully Duane will be good enough to at least take 15 of Derrick's minutes.
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Nevada233

can we get a first round draft pick off this horrible season  :'(

muhoops1

How many times was Derrick whistled for traveling in that span where MU blew the lead?  Like 2 or 3 times.  He's the QB of the offense and instead of settling down he's struggling to get the Offense going.  I dont understand what happened to his confidence, he has no belief in his shot.  Very strange.

CTWarrior

Quote from: Otule's Glass Eye on January 18, 2014, 05:36:09 PM
The thing Derrick needs to improve the most is his shooting. He is a solid defensive player and adequate passer but his offense is pretty bad. If he doesn't improve his offense next year then he hasn't improved at all.

He is not an adequate passer.  His assists are swing it around the perimeter types.  He was aggressive today, which is good, and he played solid defense until he ran out of gas at the end.  He has got to be able to attack in some manner.  In football terms, we need more North-South from him and less East-West.  
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 18, 2014, 06:03:36 PM
Derrick scores double digits...apparently he's still the reason we lost. I know you all want a single thing to blame for our woes this year, but there isn't one.

Derrick will improve next season. I don't think he will magically be a better scorer, but he will be better than he is this year. This is first year as a stating PG. Ya'll remember how terrible Junior was when he took over the reins as the starting PG? Being a starting PG and a backup PG is two different things. He will learn from this year and be better the next.

Hopefully Duane will be good enough to at least take 15 of Derrick's minutes.

In my observations the biggest reasons this team is terrible this year in order
1) Derrick Wilson's shooting
2) Derrick Wilson's playmaking
3) Jamil Wilson's passiveness
4) Todd Mayo's inconsistencies
5) Buzz's lack of in game adjustments
6) Buzz's wacky rotations
7) Davante's attitude/effort


ecompt

Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on January 18, 2014, 05:21:36 PM

???  Where did I say he would become a good shooter.  I said he would "improve."

You don't think basketball players can get better after 22?

Of course players can get better. If he could hit one 18-footer and 50 percent of his free throws per game that would be an improvement. Teams can carry a guy like him if there are three scorers on the floor with him.

River rat

Derrick is sub par, no doubt.  We have the worst backcourt in the BE, hence our struggles.  However, today the problem was not Derrick.  The issue was we continue to have alot of bad turnovers and today in the second half we, when we didnt turn it over, actually got good shots.  I would like to see a montage of our second half looks, mostly all good looks , but we missed almost every one.  Chris, DG, jamil, mayo, jake literally missed everything from layups to 3's.  Good looks just a terrible shooting half from a poor shooting collection of players

NotAnAlum

Derrick's play today was a complete mystery.  In the first half he did a very good job of running the offense.  He pushed the ball up making Butler pay for the lack of athleticism getting back on D.  He took the ball to the hole when it was there.  Forced help which opened up DG underneath and got the ball to him.  He played very good D.  His only mistake was some easily intercepted passes down the wing.
Then about 4 minutes into the second half it was like an alarm went off in his head.  "You're playing too well and controlling too much".  You could tell he kind stood off by the wing.  He stopped doing any penetration.  The offense immediately went stagnate.  Maybe he was tired exerting too much on defense.  Whatever it was it absolutely killed us.  By my count MU scored 3 points between the 16 minute mark and the 5 minute mark.  that simply can not happen.  That is where we lost the game.
Derrick simply must play like he did in the first half for us to have a chance.  Otherwise no one penetrates, the other team locks down the base line players and MU starts taking 3s.  As soon as we started taking a bunch of 3s I knew it was only a matter of time before we lost. 

keefe

Quote from: NotAnAlum on January 18, 2014, 06:52:20 PM
Derrick's play today was a complete mystery.  In the first half he did a very good job of running the offense.  He pushed the ball up making Butler pay for the lack of athleticism getting back on D.  He took the ball to the hole when it was there.  Forced help which opened up DG underneath and got the ball to him.  He played very good D.  His only mistake was some easily intercepted passes down the wing.
Then about 4 minutes into the second half it was like an alarm went off in his head.  "You're playing too well and controlling too much".  You could tell he kind stood off by the wing.  He stopped doing any penetration.  The offense immediately went stagnate.  Maybe he was tired exerting too much on defense.  Whatever it was it absolutely killed us.  By my count MU scored 3 points between the 16 minute mark and the 5 minute mark.  that simply can not happen.  That is where we lost the game.
Derrick simply must play like he did in the first half for us to have a chance.  Otherwise no one penetrates, the other team locks down the base line players and MU starts taking 3s.  As soon as we started taking a bunch of 3s I knew it was only a matter of time before we lost. 

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Quote from: NotAnAlum on January 18, 2014, 06:52:20 PM
Derrick's play today was a complete mystery.  In the first half he did a very good job of running the offense.  He pushed the ball up making Butler pay for the lack of athleticism getting back on D.  He took the ball to the hole when it was there.  Forced help which opened up DG underneath and got the ball to him.  He played very good D.  His only mistake was some easily intercepted passes down the wing.
Then about 4 minutes into the second half it was like an alarm went off in his head.  "You're playing too well and controlling too much".  You could tell he kind stood off by the wing.  He stopped doing any penetration.  The offense immediately went stagnate.  Maybe he was tired exerting too much on defense.  Whatever it was it absolutely killed us.  By my count MU scored 3 points between the 16 minute mark and the 5 minute mark.  that simply can not happen.  That is where we lost the game.
Derrick simply must play like he did in the first half for us to have a chance.  Otherwise no one penetrates, the other team locks down the base line players and MU starts taking 3s.  As soon as we started taking a bunch of 3s I knew it was only a matter of time before we lost. 
Derricks mission needs to be revised. Just give us 10 minutes of max effort and let the other guys carry the rest if the load.

Nevada233

Nit..... bound! I live in new york.. i'll be there...

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: mubuzz on January 18, 2014, 04:55:49 PM
Since this year is done, do you believe next year that Derrick should be our stating PG and if yes do you think he is capable of being a net positive player?

Duane Wilson will get a serious look next year. 

bilsu

Quote from: Nevada233 on January 18, 2014, 06:07:53 PM
can we get a first round draft pick off this horrible season  :'(
We did not have one last year.

bilsu

Quote from: Nevada233 on January 18, 2014, 07:09:08 PM
Nit..... bound! I live in new york.. i'll be there...
I would not count on that. I do not think we will finish with an overall winning record, which likely means no NIT bid.

GGGG

Quote from: muhoops1 on January 18, 2014, 06:10:20 PM
How many times was Derrick whistled for traveling in that span where MU blew the lead?  Like 2 or 3 times.  He's the QB of the offense and instead of settling down he's struggling to get the Offense going.  I dont understand what happened to his confidence, he has no belief in his shot.  Very strange.


Yes.  The one guy on the team who shot more than 40% has no belief in his shot.  ::)

GGGG

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Quote from: Chris Columbo on January 18, 2014, 07:00:21 PM
Derricks mission needs to be revised. Just give us 10 minutes of max effort and let the other guys carry the rest if the load.


I have read enough of your posts to realize that you would be one f*cking awful college basketball coach.

As bilsu pointed out, D. Wilson was MU's leading scorer in the second half and overtime.  And he's to blame for this loss?  Pathetic analysis.

connie

Quote from: Heisenberg on January 18, 2014, 07:12:57 PM
Duane Wilson will get a serious look next year. 
While I agree, the seriously underperforming junior and sophomore classes may open us up to additional possibilities.
"Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything Kent.  40% of all people know that."  HJS

4everwarriors

Buzz may be a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. Derrick does pine time ASAP.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

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