How many wins to make the NCAA Tourney

[Henry Sugar]

Putting this out there to see what the general consensus is for MU's chances.

Note that 14-4 would mean winning 12 out of 14 remaining games.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Honestly for this year I dont think it would take as much as everybody thinks. It seems that as a whole the NCAA is down this year. I can see this year being the year of the mid-major where a lot of those teams get in rather then the Big 6 (7? 8?) conferences. Well see how it plays out but it seems that over recent years that the selection committee has been very favorable to MU and I think that still stands this year.

[Coleman]

I said 21-10. We might need a win in NYC at the BET on top of that.

That means we finish out 11-3 from here on out. This team has the talent to do it. Giddy up boys.

[madtownwarrior]

3 - The way MU is playing currently combined with the "No Bad Losses / No Good Wins" banner, the omnly thing that will matter in making the NCAA tourney will be winning 3 games in the BE tourney.

[MerrittsMustache]

All depends on who MU beats and who beats MU.

[willie warrior]

I said 21-10. We might need a win in NYC at the BET on top of that.

That means we finish out 11-3 from here on out. This team has the talent to do it. Giddy up boys.

21-10 will bubble us. Need quality wins--two to three.

[Lennys Tap]

I think 20-11 puts us in.

[LloydMooresLegs]

All depends on who MU beats and who beats MU.

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[Henry Sugar]

I said 21-10. We might need a win in NYC at the BET on top of that.

That means we finish out 11-3 from here on out. This team has the talent to do it. Giddy up boys.

This is generally what I think, although I believe the win in the BET is a requirement.

[Eye]

I don't think 19-12 is eliminated. They gotta fill the field.

[Aughnanure]

I said 21-10. We might need a win in NYC at the BET on top of that.

That means we finish out 11-3 from here on out. This team has the talent to do it. Giddy up boys.

This is correct. Can't lose opening game of BET. Need at least one win to ice it and maybe 2 depending on what our 13 wins are (i.e. no wins over Nova, Creighton or Xavier/Georgetown)

[77ncaachamps]

12-6 in the league is still bubble worthy.

Even with Buzz's success and the program's recent rise.

Is there an automatic berth for winning the BE this year? (Not sure if the realigning messed with that)
If so, just win the darn thing to guarantee the slot.

[wardle2wade]

12-6 in the league is still bubble worthy.

Even with Buzz's success and the program's recent rise.

Is there an automatic berth for winning the BE this year? (Not sure if the realigning messed with that)
If so, just win the darn thing to guarantee the slot.

There is an automatic bid for the Big East.  Also, since the AAC (Louisville, Uconn etc) receives an auto-bid, there will be one less at large bid this year.

[PGsHeroes32]

12-6, 20-11 should be good enough


Assuming we don't go 1 and done in the BET.

[bilsu]

20-11 assuming they do not lose the first game in Big East tournament. This is less than I said they needed earlier. However, to get to 20-11 they now have to go 10-4, which is a pretty good finish. However, I do not see that happening. It most certainly does not happen, if they lose at Butler.

[GooooMarquette]

I said 21-10...in part because it's hard to count on the BET game making a difference.

For example, if we go 20-11 and then win our first BET game, but it's against DePaul...would that win really make a difference?  Not so sure.

On the other hand, I think 21-10 gets us in regardless of what happens at the BET.

[MerrittsMustache]

I said 21-10...in part because it's hard to count on the BET game making a difference.

For example, if we go 20-11 and then win our first BET game, but it's against DePaul...would that win really make a difference?  Not so sure.

On the other hand, I think 21-10 gets us in regardless of what happens at the BET.

Yes, that win would make a difference because a loss to DePaul in that situation just might knock MU out of the field.

[Coleman]

I said 21-10...in part because it's hard to count on the BET game making a difference.

For example, if we go 20-11 and then win our first BET game, but it's against DePaul...would that win really make a difference?  Not so sure.

On the other hand, I think 21-10 gets us in regardless of what happens at the BET.

Yes. It would absolutely make a difference. Every win in the month of March makes a difference.

[Windyplayer]

All depends on who MU beats and who beats MU.

And who MU beats, beats other teams and who beats MU, beats other teams, and who MU beats, loses to other teams, and who beats MU, loses to other teams.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I would argue we could go 19-12 and still make it. It would require upsetting Nova at home and some other big wins, no losses to Seton Hall/Depaul and 2 wins in the BET but it could be possible.

[Sunbelt15]

I don't think 19-12 is eliminated. They gotta fill the field.

I think an ACC or B10 team with the same record will jump us to take that spot.

[The Equalizer]

Yes, that win would make a difference because a loss to DePaul in that situation just might knock MU out of the field.

If we're playing DePaul, who is likely the 9th or 10th place team, it means we're in 7th or 8th place, playing 9th or 10th place DePaul in the first round (top 6 seeds get a buy).  If this is the case, then absolutely we have to win--as well as the next three as well-becuase the only way we get a bid as the 7 seed is by winning the whole tournament.

[GooooMarquette]

Yes, that win would make a difference because a loss to DePaul in that situation just might knock MU out of the field.

You're correct.  I worded the question poorly - I meant to ask whether a win over DePaul in the first rount of the BET would be enough to get us into the dance.  I suspect the answer is no - that we might very well have to win a second (and perhaps third) game in the BET in that scenario.

[Windyplayer]

You're correct.  I worded the question poorly - I meant to ask whether a win over DePaul in the first rount of the BET would be enough to get us into the dance.  I suspect the answer is no - that we might very well have to win a second (and perhaps third) game in the BET in that scenario.

Your wording was fine. You were asking about the consequences of a win against DePaul in the first round of the BE tourney. A loss is not part of the question.

[Texas Western]

We need to win all the rest of our home games. So that is 7 wins. Then as for the road games we need to go 4-3. Which means beat St. Johns, Seton Hall, Depaul, Providence absolutely required, then in the other three road games against Butler, Georgetown, Villanova not get blown out. So 13-5 conference record.  Then at least two wins in the Big East tournament. So from here at 10-7 we are looking at 23-11 minimum. Logic if we do all that we have essentially 6 quality wins (5 Big East plus assuming George Washington keeps playing well) .  The reason I think we need to do this well is that  I don't see any more than 4 schools from our conference as There are going to be 4 teams for sure from the AAC Louisville, Memphis, Cincy and U -Conn that make it also. I know it shouldn't matter but I feel like the committee will balance it this year, until some sort of trend emerges. So we are in a dogfight with Villanova, Georgetown, Xavier and Creighton. If we defend home court and do well in the BET, we will beat at least one of them in the head to head comparison, and as mentioned gives us enough overall quality wins to get in.