MU Blue: Dumbest decision ever??

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

If you have no idea what his needs are, how can you call the decision "dumb."  If the guy didn't want to be in school, and wanted to get paid, he got his wish.

And how do you know that if he would have waited a year that he would have been in a better position? 

I don't know any of that. It's an opinion. But my sentence makes perfect sense.

[Steve Buscemi]

The Israeli Defense Force has a long, proud tradition of excellence. I trust Vander Blue sleeps comfortably beneath the blanket of security of its dedicated warriors. Mazel Tov!

Keefe, I still have these saved on my desktop from the last time you posted them.  No need to post them again... 

[Gato78]

Context: Vander is making more money right now than anyone in his family has ever made. Before making such statements, answer this: where is Vander's father right now? Remember, Vander was last guy cut by the 76ers. Is Vander's decision dumb because of the way it impacts Marquette or the way it impacts Vander and his family?

[Nukem2]

Context: Vander is making more money right now than anyone in his family has ever made. Before making such statements, answer this: where is Vander's father right now? Remember, Vander was last guy cut by the 76ers. Is Vander's decision dumb because of the way it impacts Marquette or the way it impacts Vander and his family?

The key phrase is right now.  His Israeli team plays 22 regular season games from October to March 9th.  In 6 months he will probably make $50,000 if that.  Not chump change but in the long run, is it worth it.  Obviously it is to him as he chases his NBA dream, so who are we to question him.

Performance-wise, he is off to a slow start.  In 7 games, he is averaging 25 MPG, 11.4 PPG, 3 RPG, and is 4-18 from three land ( 22%  ) and 18-30 from the line ( 60% ).

[MUrugger]

A day later and many of the board's self-appointed experts have weighed in.  Just as I had hoped.  And sure as sh*t, I've taken the obligatory personal attacks from the cyber-muscled guy who calls himself Sultan, Golden A (love the tasteful 'douche' reference) and the like, but again I go back to the guy who made the comment.
Assuming none of us are being paid as professionals at the top of their craft for the insights we offer here (of course I could be wrong about turban man--I mean Sultan), why the hell would a pro like Fran Fraschilla bring it up?  He knows it happened six months ago.  He knows whats going on with Vander now.  He even knows Vander for cryin' out loud.  If he didn't think it was topical, and an extraordinarily bad decision by an extremely talented player whose greatest ally at that time was more time, why would he launch that discussion in the midst of a national broadcast?

Because his strong preference would be for a young man in that position to not make the same bad decision that Vander did.

[keefe]

Keefe, I still have these saved on my desktop from the last time you posted them.  No need to post them again...  

Well, I just thought that since Scoopers were questioning why a 22 year old man would want to move to Israel and get paid to play basketball they might need a refresher on just how wonderful that Mediterranean gem is. The natives are friendly and I am confident Vander Blue shall find cordial hospitality in their supple bosom.

[hairy worthen]

Well, I just thought that since Scoopers were questioning why a 22 year old man would want to move to Israel and get paid to play basketball they might need a refresher on just how wonderful that Mediterranean gem is. The natives are friendly and I am confident Vander Blue shall find cordial hospitality in their supple bosom.

You can post them as many times as you like. Always enjoyable

[4everwarriors]

Wonder if I can enlist?

[keefe]

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[GGGG]

A day later and many of the board's self-appointed experts have weighed in.  Just as I had hoped.  And sure as sh*t, I've taken the obligatory personal attacks from the cyber-muscled guy who calls himself Sultan, Golden A (love the tasteful 'douche' reference) and the like, but again I go back to the guy who made the comment.
Assuming none of us are being paid as professionals at the top of their craft for the insights we offer here (of course I could be wrong about turban man--I mean Sultan), why the hell would a pro like Fran Fraschilla bring it up?  He knows it happened six months ago.  He knows whats going on with Vander now.  He even knows Vander for cryin' out loud.  If he didn't think it was topical, and an extraordinarily bad decision by an extremely talented player whose greatest ally at that time was more time, why would he launch that discussion in the midst of a national broadcast?

Because his strong preference would be for a young man in that position to not make the same bad decision that Vander did.

Heh.  You simply were classless...and continue to be so.  It's OK.  It happens.

Looking back on it now...next year...next decade, Vander may feel he made a bad decision.  I don't know that.  You don't know that.  Frachilla doesn't know that either.  He might be perfectly happy playing in Israel now, earning some money, and perhaps working his way back to the NBA.

[g0lden3agle]

A day later and many of the board's self-appointed experts have weighed in.  Just as I had hoped.  And sure as sh*t, I've taken the obligatory personal attacks from the cyber-muscled guy who calls himself Sultan, Golden A (love the tasteful 'douche' reference) and the like, but again I go back to the guy who made the comment.
Assuming none of us are being paid as professionals at the top of their craft for the insights we offer here (of course I could be wrong about turban man--I mean Sultan), why the hell would a pro like Fran Fraschilla bring it up?  He knows it happened six months ago.  He knows whats going on with Vander now.  He even knows Vander for cryin' out loud.  If he didn't think it was topical, and an extraordinarily bad decision by an extremely talented player whose greatest ally at that time was more time, why would he launch that discussion in the midst of a national broadcast?

Because his strong preference would be for a young man in that position to not make the same bad decision that Vander did.

Until you can tell me with 100% certainty why Blue left you can not judge his decision.  Maybe he was totally okay with not making the NBA and just making a paycheck.  In that regard he made the greatest decision ever.

You don't know what his actual reasoning was.  Neither do I.  Why is it so hard to let bygones be bygones and get over it?

[MU82]

Vander = Yesterday's News.

Next topic.

[Dawson Rental]

A day later and many of the board's self-appointed experts have weighed in.  Just as I had hoped.  And sure as sh*t, I've taken the obligatory personal attacks from the cyber-muscled guy who calls himself Sultan, Golden A (love the tasteful 'douche' reference) and the like, but again I go back to the guy who made the comment.
Assuming none of us are being paid as professionals at the top of their craft for the insights we offer here (of course I could be wrong about turban man--I mean Sultan), why the hell would a pro like Fran Fraschilla bring it up?  He knows it happened six months ago.  He knows whats going on with Vander now.  He even knows Vander for cryin' out loud.  If he didn't think it was topical, and an extraordinarily bad decision by an extremely talented player whose greatest ally at that time was more time, why would he launch that discussion in the midst of a national broadcast?

Because his strong preference would be for a young man in that position to not make the same bad decision that Vander did.

I think that it's important to remember that Fran Fraschilla is an ex-coach and can be expected to bring an ex-coach's perspective, and he probably likes Buzz and thinks that Buzz got blind-sided by the decision.

To Keefe
Thanks a lot.  Now my son want an Israeli Defense Force action figure for Christmas and I only have two shopping days left to find one.  He wants the shower towel accessory pack, too.

[4everwarriors]

Murray, shop the Internet for blowup dolls.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I don't think Vander liked school.

Therefore, the idea of going through another year to school for a chance to be drafted in the second round wasn't as attractive as leaving early for a chance to get drafted in the second round.

You have to view the decision through his eyes. Playing college hoops and going to class is HARD. If you don't love it, it's even harder.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I don't think Vander liked school.

Therefore, the idea of going through another year to school for a chance to be drafted in the second round wasn't as attractive as leaving early for a chance to get drafted in the second round.

You have to view the decision through his eyes. Playing college hoops and going to class is HARD. If you don't love it, it's even harder.

Except that there was a good chance he would be a first round pick....he took the easy way out.

[MU82]

Except that there was a good chance he would be a first round pick.

Really? This year's draft is considerably deeper than last year's. Vander would have had to improve at least as much between his junior and senior seasons as he did between his sophomore and junior seasons, and even then his peers would have been much more formidable.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Really? This year's draft is considerably deeper than last year's. Vander would have had to improve at least as much between his junior and senior seasons as he did between his sophomore and junior seasons, and even then his peers would have been much more formidable.

Draft Express had him as a first rounder after this year.  Assuming he continued to improve, he would likely be on a team right now that is 10-2 or 11-1, probably playing some of the point, etc.  Yes.  

[ChicosBailBonds]

After seeing those pictures, I don't know how anyone can be against the 2nd amendment in this country.  God bless hot chicks that are armed.

[MerrittsMustache]

Draft Express had him as a first rounder this year.  Assuming he continued to improve, he would likely be on a team right now that is 10-2 or 11-1, probably playing some of the point, etc.  Yes. 

Well, if Draft Express said so 12 months before the draft, it must be the case.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Well, if Draft Express said so 12 months before the draft, it must be the case.

We'll never know....but if posters here say he wouldn't be, it must also be the case.   Hmmm

[Dawson Rental]

After seeing those pictures, I don't know how anyone can be against the 2nd amendment in this country.  God bless hot chicks that are armed.

Well, if you fell that strongly about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C917QJH9GNM

"Nothing comes between me and my AK."

[ChicosBailBonds]

Well, if you fell that strongly about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C917QJH9GNM

"Nothing comes between me and my AK."

Not bad, but I prefer this one....she seems to handle a longer weapon with great dexterity


https://www.youtube.com/v/sEGE4W70U-U

[MU82]

We'll never know....but if posters here say he wouldn't be, it must also be the case.   Hmmm

If you want to state -- as a fact that everybody should accept -- that there was "a good chance" that he'd have been a first-rounder, you go right ahead.

Vander = Yesterday's News. I wish him well. Move on.

[MerrittsMustache]

We'll never know....but if posters here say he wouldn't be, it must also be the case.   Hmmm

I never cited Scoop posters as evidence that there was a good chance he'd be a 1st Rounder.