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Author Topic: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot  (Read 11858 times)

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Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« on: December 19, 2013, 08:07:39 PM »
Interesting article on legislation just enacted in Wisconsin protecting "race based" mascots.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-mascot-wisconsin-20131219,0,3040038.story

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2013, 10:41:00 PM »
Interesting. Could be some 1st Amendment issues with requiring a 10% threshold to legitimize a complaint against a public institution.
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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2013, 08:23:04 AM »
How can this be considered racist???  Yikes...

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2013, 08:28:15 AM »
How can this be considered racist???  Yikes...
It isn't. It is PC.
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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2013, 09:02:28 AM »
Interesting article on legislation just enacted in Wisconsin protecting "race based" mascots.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-mascot-wisconsin-20131219,0,3040038.story

Would not have affect Marquette at all.... only applies to public schools.

Interesting. Could be some 1st Amendment issues with requiring a 10% threshold to legitimize a complaint against a public institution.

The 1st Amendment gives you the right to voice your opinion, it doesn't give you the right to force someone else to change their perspective just because you don't like it (although this is a common misinterpretation of our Constitution).

Nevertheless, when less than 10% of a population agrees on a contrary position, I'd be willing to bet that very few of their of their positions have any legitimacy.
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2013, 09:03:06 AM »
My avatar would solve everything.

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2013, 09:08:03 AM »
...it doesn't give you the right to force someone else to change their perspective just because you don't like it...

Dont' tell that to the LGBT community.

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2013, 09:09:41 AM »
Dont' tell that to the LGBT community.

Non sequitur much?

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2013, 09:11:05 AM »
Dont' tell that to the LGBT community.
Now there you go, not showing the proper respect/support to that "community"
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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2013, 09:11:36 AM »
Would not have affect Marquette at all.... only applies to public schools.

The 1st Amendment gives you the right to voice your opinion, it doesn't give you the right to force someone else to change their perspective just because you don't like it (although this is a common misinterpretation of our Constitution).

Nevertheless, when less than 10% of a population agrees on a contrary position, I'd be willing to bet that very few of their of their positions have any legitimacy
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Prior to this law all that was needed was 1 individual to object, which is ridiculous


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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2013, 09:13:06 AM »
My avatar would solve everything.

exactly, but that makes too much sense.

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2013, 09:13:34 AM »
Prior to this law all that was needed was 1 individual to object, which is ridiculous



Isn't that how the world works today...it just takes one

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2013, 09:18:40 AM »
Isn't that how the world works today...it just takes one

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2013, 09:39:32 AM »
How about we just go with a color or something like that.....What? 

nevermind

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2013, 09:46:23 AM »
My avatar would solve everything.

Agreed.

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2013, 09:52:07 AM »
My avatar would solve everything.


I would hope so.

However when the cameras pan the crowd and show random white boy in the front row with some sort of fake headress (which I have seen the last two years), it only reinforces the beliefs of those who don't think Marquette can get past the imagery.

And willie, that mascot is completely racist.  Completely. 

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2013, 10:26:05 AM »
I find this photo from the 1974 championship game to be offensive as well.  NO ONE should be allowed to wear pants like that!

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2013, 11:34:36 AM »

I would hope so.

However when the cameras pan the crowd and show random white boy in the front row with some sort of fake headress (which I have seen the last two years), it only reinforces the beliefs of those who don't think Marquette can get past the imagery.

And willie, that mascot is completely racist.  Completely. 
Thank you for your lecture on PC, Sultan, who has no credibility. PC is in the eye of the beholder. Just because you say a guy wearing a fake headdress is racist doesn't make it so. But then again, when you aspire to be the thought police, whatever you say goes.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind.

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2013, 11:43:11 AM »

I would hope so.

However when the cameras pan the crowd and show random white boy in the front row with some sort of fake headress (which I have seen the last two years), it only reinforces the beliefs of those who don't think Marquette can get past the imagery.

And willie, that mascot is completely racist.  Completely. 
Yep Just like the ND Mascot is offensive to the Irish; the Redskin nickname is racist; the Fla. State mascot is racist; the Minn. Viking is offensive to Swedes/Norwegians; Warhawks are racist; etc. etc. The Thought Police are coming and we will be made to see their way. C'mon man, you need to lighten up a bit, or is your thong too tight?
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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2013, 11:57:02 AM »
Thank you for your lecture on PC, Sultan, who has no credibility. PC is in the eye of the beholder. Just because you say a guy wearing a fake headdress is racist doesn't make it so. But then again, when you aspire to be the thought police, whatever you say goes.


Reading.  Is.  Fundamental.

I never said the guy wearing the headress was racist.  I said it reinforces the MU decision-makers' beliefs that we cannot escape the native imagery.  I personally don't have a problem with it, but it doesn't send the type of message that I think they are trying to send.

I said that Willie Wampum was racist.  And it was.  Pretty much everyone associated with the University back when they ditched him in the early 70s believed that to be the case.  That's why they ditched it.

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2013, 12:10:49 PM »
Thank you for your lecture on PC, Sultan, who has no credibility. PC is in the eye of the beholder. Just because you say a guy wearing a fake headdress is racist doesn't make it so. But then again, when you aspire to be the thought police, whatever you say goes.

Dude, why are you so angry all of the time?

All you do on this forum is bitch and complain about EVERYTHING.

Maybe it's time to find a hobby you actually like.

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2013, 01:01:52 PM »

Reading.  Is.  Fundamental.

I never said the guy wearing the headress was racist.  I said it reinforces the MU decision-makers' beliefs that we cannot escape the native imagery.  I personally don't have a problem with it, but it doesn't send the type of message that I think they are trying to send.

I said that Willie Wampum was racist.  And it was.  Pretty much everyone associated with the University back when they ditched him in the early 70s believed that to be the case.  That's why they ditched it.


Obviously racist mascot.  If willie can't see that, he simply has his fingers in his ears and his eyes shut.

Nothing to do with PC.  In fact, I'm not sure he understands the concept.

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2013, 01:15:13 PM »
Dude, why are you so angry all of the time?

All you do on this forum is bitch and complain about EVERYTHING.

Maybe it's time to find a hobby you actually like.

You must know the answer to this.

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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2013, 01:49:11 PM »
Dude, why are you so angry all of the time?

All you do on this forum is bitch and complain about EVERYTHING.

Maybe it's time to find a hobby you actually like.


I've been wondering this since I started reading Scoop
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Re: Not that this would have helped the Warriors mascot
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2013, 01:51:32 PM »
Interesting. Could be some 1st Amendment issues with requiring a 10% threshold to legitimize a complaint against a public institution.

What about the rights of the vast majority?


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