Mayo?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Definitely agree with / remember that. I guess I just find the cliches a bit unthoughtful when the team has the rug pulled out from under them like this. Not trying to say that we lost because Todd was suspended - but if Dylan Flood didnt make the trip, the answer might be that the team really missed his energy on the bench. Point just being that while no one man wins or loses the game, the team is simply a group of men. So suspending one always makes a difference. Considering the burden of Todd's drama on the team and the fact that Todd might've been the best guard on the floor, I really don't like Buzz saying that it didn't matter that he chose to suspend him.

Understood, though I think Buzz said it because he is a no excuses guy and didn't want to take anything away from the Vadgers.  That's my guess anyway.

[melissasmooth]

What's your deal on the Mayo hate - did he dawg you out Melissa Smooth?  Funny you refer to yourself as smooth too - talk about douchey.  

Classy. Tough guy. But easy to ignore. Kissy

[Atticus]

Ive read a bunch of posts stating he was late for practice. Has that been confirmed or is it just the fun excuse to run with?

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Thanks for the clarification. Think everyone (Buzz included) is tired of this crap. But since Buzz knows exactly what's going on I'll defer to his judgement on if and when Todd goes.

+1.

I think I know what I would do... but I don't know all of the facts.

I trust that Buzz has a good handle on the situation.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Disagree. Mayo may have screwed up, but where were his teammates to make sure he was awake? Accountability means you are accountable for yourself and your teammates. That goes on and off the court.

Bilas' book on Toughness talks about this exact thing in the Duke program.

[brewcity77]

Bilas' book on Toughness talks about this exact thing in the Duke program.

Yes, but clearly the posters on MUScoop know more about how a high-major basketball program runs than Jay Bilas does.

[hairy worthen]

Yes, but clearly the posters on MUScoop know more about how a high-major basketball program runs than Jay Bilas does.

Well of course you are always right, I should have known better

[wadesworld]

Yes, but clearly the posters on MUScoop know more about how a high-major basketball program runs than Jay Bilas does.

I don't give a damn what Jay Bilas says.  Todd Mayo is responsible for getting Todd Mayo to practice on time.  He isn't a 14 year old playing AAU basketball who relies on a parent to drive him on time to a gym.  He lives on campus, 3 blocks from the practice gym.  His teammates are not responsible for dragging him to the gym on time.

Not to mention, nobody knows whether this is what he was suspended for.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I don't give a damn what Jay Bilas says.  Todd Mayo is responsible for getting Todd Mayo to practice on time.  He isn't a 14 year old playing AAU basketball who relies on a parent to drive him on time to a gym.  He lives on campus, 3 blocks from the practice gym.  His teammates are not responsible for dragging him to the gym on time.

Not to mention, nobody knows whether this is what he was suspended for.

that's not the point.  the point is that everyone is part of the team and part of being a team is watching out for everyone else.

of course, mayo doesn't fist bump everyone on the bench, so that's why he didn't his wake up call.

[wadesworld]

that's not the point.  the point is that everyone is part of the team and part of being a team is watching out for everyone else.

of course, mayo doesn't fist bump everyone on the bench, so that's why he didn't his wake up call.

Like Chicos said, how is the team supposed to do that?  Right when you wake up you call everyone on the team to make sure they're all waking up?  Go door to door knocking to see if they're up yet?  C'mon.  Not to mention we don't know what time the practice was and where they were coming from.  Once again, Todd is responsible for Todd getting to practice on time.  He's a 23 year old college junior.  Time to grow up and take accountability.

[brewcity77]

Like Chicos said, how is the team supposed to do that?  Right when you wake up you call everyone on the team to make sure they're all waking up?  Go door to door knocking to see if they're up yet?  C'mon.  Not to mention we don't know what time the practice was and where they were coming from.  Once again, Todd is responsible for Todd getting to practice on time.  He's a 23 year old college junior.  Time to grow up and take accountability.

None of those are bad ideas. Todd is responsible for Todd, but they are also all responsible for each other. That's what being a team is, on and off the court.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Bilas' book on Toughness talks about this exact thing in the Duke program.

I'm curious, how does this work.  Do the guards call the guards, the centers call the power forwards?  Odd days vs even days?  Don't forget practice tomorrow at 8 (same time we've had it everyday the last 2 months and for your previous two years)...don't hit the snooze.

OK, I was being facetious, but exactly how is this supposed to work?  I get Bilas' general concept, I get where Brew is going with this, look out for your teammates....all for one, one for all....it takes a village...three musketeers...etc, etc.   I'm just curious how exactly this is supposed to work.

I suspect at Duke there is also a limit to all of this.  Where does it stop.  Don't eat that third helping of pasta, too many carbs Christian.  Thanks Bobby, oh and don't forget to study for your big test in sociology 101, it's a doozy.  Grant, you are so right, and I'd suggest you also floss after this meal because of the long term health benefits.


At the end of the day, everyone seems to be "getting it", but one guy. 

[brewcity77]

Obviously some of those are taking it so far, but I'm pretty sure you intended hyperbole. For me, it would be about making sure everyone is getting where they need to get (practice, class, etc) and not getting into trouble off the court. Maybe for practice use a buddy system, where each guy has one other person he makes sure is getting there. Take classes together so you can study together and travel to class together. When you go out, have a teammate along to make sure you don't get into a fight when someone calls you Todd Miracle Whip.

I really don't think this is near as big a deal as some people are making it to be. I know professional life and college basketball are two different things, but when I have a mandatory training at work, I text my partner to make sure we both get it scheduled and he does the same for me. It makes it a lot easier to remember all the things that need to get done and make sure you are both finishing all the work that is required when you have a built in check-and-balance.

I'm not saying that Jamil should be in Todd's room watching him sleep, but giving a knock on the door before he leaves to make sure he's up doesn't seem like that big of a deal.

[Stretchdeltsig]

How does Chicks know anything when he is in California?

[AZWarrior]

Mayo might be better off at Sam's Club, hey?

There's still time for that.  I'd rather see him grow up, and get to the NBA.  If I were a betting man however, I'd say that Sam's Club is looking like the more likely of the two.

[MU82]

Mayo needs the buddy system.

Hey, it works for 10-year-olds at camp!

[melissasmooth]

Maybe ners can call him

[MUHoopsFan2]

I'm curious, how does this work.  Do the guards call the guards, the centers call the power forwards?  Odd days vs even days?  Don't forget practice tomorrow at 8 (same time we've had it everyday the last 2 months and for your previous two years)...don't hit the snooze.

OK, I was being facetious, but exactly how is this supposed to work?  I get Bilas' general concept, I get where Brew is going with this, look out for your teammates....all for one, one for all....it takes a village...three musketeers...etc, etc.   I'm just curious how exactly this is supposed to work.

I suspect at Duke there is also a limit to all of this.  Where does it stop.  Don't eat that third helping of pasta, too many carbs Christian.  Thanks Bobby, oh and don't forget to study for your big test in sociology 101, it's a doozy.  Grant, you are so right, and I'd suggest you also floss after this meal because of the long term health benefits.


At the end of the day, everyone seems to be "getting it", but one guy. 

I tell you what...the MU teams under Crean did this. They were TIGHT. I never saw them dis unified. They looked out for one another on things like this.

I know this for a fact.

They all made sure each guy was up and at it...and pretty much left, came and went TOGETHER.

There was team accountability. I was impressed watching it.
Todd has to improve and be more responsible and so do his teammates.

They could have used Todd in that game, and Todd could have used that game to help beat a top #8 ranked school.

[MUHoopsFan2]

Give me a break. Personal accountability. Chicos is correct, how do you do this anyway. Its not jamils or anyone else's responsibility to make sure mayo gets to practice on time.

I AGREE 100%! Where was his teammates? This is a point I am trying to make here.

And we don't know. Maybe they tried and he did not answer the door for them either.

Maybe he was not even on campus but at his brother's OJ's house and couldn't be reached? We don't know.

But regardless to any of that, a team is a team on and off the court.

Todd has to be a better teammate and others on the squad need to help him, or make him be one. He has no choice in that.

You can talk about personal accountability all you want but  in this instance you are your brother's keeper.

[MUHoopsFan2]

At what point does accountability matter? Todd Mayo is a grown man that should probably start acting like one pretty soon. This is bigger than winning a game against UW. You've got a lot of talented young freshmen on this team and they are always watching.

Now this is a great post here...Now this I can buy into. Yes there are freshmen on the team that need to be shown the right way.

On this fact alone, you suspend an upperclassmen for this in the fact you have 4-5 freshmen on the team to watching.

If Duane Wilson was healthy enough to play, this is not even  an issue and Todd is probably sent home . . . for good. 

[MU82]

There's still time for that.  I'd rather see him grow up, and get to the NBA.  If I were a betting man however, I'd say that Sam's Club is looking like the more likely of the two.

Yeah, remember the good old days -- the first two months of Mayo's freshman season -- when folks here were debating if he'd stick around past two years before becoming an NBA superstar?

[Sunbelt15]

Yeah, remember the good old days -- the first two months of Mayo's freshman season -- when folks here were debating if he'd stick around past two years before becoming an NBA superstar?

They looked at him, but saw his brother. Mirage!

[MarsupialMadness]

Yeah, remember the good old days -- the first two months of Mayo's freshman season -- when folks here were debating if he'd stick around past two years before becoming an NBA superstar?

Says a lot about the player... also says a lot about the coach that should be progressing the young man.

[tower912]

The coach?   The coach has disciplined him appropriately when he has not lived up to the required standards.   Mayo going home between his freshman and sophomore years, missing tons of practice due to academic issues, and then missing this past Saturday's games are all based on decisions MAYO has made.   Buzz even offered to help him transfer a year ago, but Todd and his mom were adamant that MU was the place for him. 

[Lennys Tap]

Says a lot about the player... also says a lot about the coach that should be progressing the young man.

Yeah, the guy who turned two non top 500 high school guys into first round NBA draft picks doesn't know about "progressing young men".