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GGGG

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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #75 on: November 12, 2013, 09:02:49 AM »
willie, you can't seem to articulate why Buzz isn't giving Gardner 30 mpg since you believe it would be more effective.  Does Buzz not know as much as you do?  Is it some sort of conspiracy? 

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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #76 on: November 12, 2013, 10:53:03 AM »
Please read, and do not jump to wild conclusions.

Good advice for us all to take.
Relax. Respect the Process.

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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #77 on: November 12, 2013, 12:14:32 PM »
The only quality big/switchable we are still in on is Stone--will we land him?

I don't what you define as quality but we are actively pursuing Stone, Ellenson, Zimmerman, and Giddens who are all 5/4 star bigs. We are also in on Bunch, Yates, Pierce, and Deyonte Davis who are all three star bigs.

Getting one of the 5/4 star group and one of the 3 star group would be more than enough for me.
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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #78 on: November 12, 2013, 01:51:35 PM »
It was actually a razor-sharp margin. 18 times he had 2 or less turnovers, 17 times he had 3 or more turnovers. It's easier to remember the bad though because of when they occurred. 5 turnovers in losses to Green Bay and Villanova, 4 turnovers in losses to Louisville and Georgetown. Junior averaged 3.4 turnovers in losses and 2.2 turnovers in wins.

After January 1 the importance of Cadougan's turnovers became very pronounced. In games with 2 or less turnovers, we were 12-1. In games with 3 or more turnovers, we were 5-5.
Thank you for looking it up. I would not of guessed he had as many games as he did with two or less turnovers. It would be an interesting debate about the Big East record of 5-5 when Cadougan had 3 or more turnovers. Did Cadougan's turnovers cause the loss or were Cadougan's turnovers the result of playing a tougher team. We probably would not of beat Louisville at Louisville even if Cadougan had no turnovers. We lost to Cincy in overtime, so one less turnover could of mattered. However, making one more free throw in regulation we would of won the game in spite of Cadougan's turnovers.

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Re: Bottom line
« Reply #79 on: November 12, 2013, 03:00:15 PM »
Freshmen scoring averages and what they scored in first season opener under Buzz:
1. Todd Mayo 7.9           5 pts
2. Vander Blue 5.1          7 pts (went pro after junior season)
3. Davante Gardner 4.6  17pts
4. Jerone Maymon 4.0      9 pts (jumped ship during season)
5. Steve Taylor  2.7       4 pts
6. Deonte Burton 2.0      2 pts (one game)
7. Reggie Smith 1.4        2 pts (jumped ship during season)
8. Jamil Jones 1.4           0 pts (transferred after two seasons)
9. Chris Otule 1.3           DNP
10. Eric Williams 1.2        1 pt (transferred after two seasons)
11. Jamil Ferguson 1.1     4 pts (transferred after one season)
12. John Dawson  1.0      1 pt (one game)
13 Juan Anderson 0.7      DNP
14. Derick Wilson 0.6       2 pts
15. Junior Cadougan 0.3   DNP
16. You. Mbao 0.1           DNP (transferred after one season)
17. JaJuan Johnson 0.0     0 (one game)
18. Duane Wilson 0.0        DNP (no games)

15 Freshmen under Buzz prior to this year and only 5 of them averaged more than two points for their first season.

Conclusion, even if Duane comes back he will not add much to point guard scoring.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2013, 03:04:47 PM by bilsu »

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« Reply #80 on: November 12, 2013, 03:15:20 PM »
Yeah, I think everyone needs to chill out on the Duane Wilson thing for this year.  I know that people are all excited about him based on potential, and people like Paint Touches have stoked that fire some more, but he is a freshman...missing a good portion of the season due to injury.