Brett Favre

[Lennys Tap]

One day after dismissing rumors of a comeback with the St Louis Rams, Brett Favre admits to memory loss due to concussions. Another court case/settlement brewing?


(Sorry, meant to put this in Superbar)

[Warrior Code]

I prefer the Bread Favre at Koppa's, but I ask for it on a pita. What was the question again?

[brandx]

Favre, winning the Super Bowl in '05, is one of MY great memories.

[jesmu84]

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[Silkk the Shaka]

Favre, winning the Super Bowl in '05, is one of MY great memories.

You took one too many shots to the head too, eh?

[GooooMarquette]

Maybe this explains why he kept telling the Packers he was retiring...and then showed up at training camp.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I could think of many additional reasons why he has memory loss.....

[Lennys Tap]

I could think of many additional reasons why he has memory loss.....

Mental health (addiction) jokes before lunch in California. It's going to be a great day!

[ChicosBailBonds]

Scientists say memory loss begins as early as age 20 and into your 30's, depending on the studies.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=117281

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2226747/Memory-loss-start-early-thirties.html


Does football have an impact....sure, probably.  I just don't know why so many want to put ALL of the impact on one thing or another.  We all lose our memory, some earlier than others. 

[4everwarriors]

Funny, Favre isn't bitchin' about erectile dysfunction.

[Lennys Tap]

Funny, Favre isn't bitchin' about erectile dysfunction.

Ah, the old "I can't remember where I (my johnson?) was last night". Brett's been pullin' that one on Dana for decades.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Mental health (addiction) jokes before lunch in California. It's going to be a great day!

Uhm, no.  It's called aging...I attached a few links for your reading pleasure.

[Lennys Tap]

Uhm, no.  It's called aging...I attached a few links for your reading pleasure.

So when you said you could think of "many additional reasons he has memory loss" you didn't mean many, you meant one. Either that or you forgot what you had written only minutes before. Time for a check up?

[keefe]

Funny, Favre isn't bitchin' about erectile dysfunction.

From the looks of things in his text messages there's not a lot of blood draining from his brain to fill his unit. Never thought Favre had trouble with deep routes until he started texting...

[Tugg Speedman]

One day after dismissing rumors of a comeback with the St Louis Rams, Brett Favre admits to memory loss due to concussions. Another court case/settlement brewing?

To be serious for a second ....

The NFL settlement was $765 million which many decried was a small sum given the NFL profits.

The lead attorney for the players pushed for this settlement because the issue of concussions was not in dispute.  The issue was how damaged where many of these players BEFORE they entered the NFL.  That means College, High school and even Pee-wee leagues bear some liability (according to the players lead attorney).

So coming to a college and/or high school near you .... concussions lawsuits.

Will Favre sue the NCAA/Southern Mississippi in addition to the NFL/Packers, Jets, Vikings?

[brandx]

Scientists say memory loss begins as early as age 20 and into your 30's, depending on the studies.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=117281

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2226747/Memory-loss-start-early-thirties.html


Does football have an impact....sure, probably.  I just don't know why so many want to put ALL of the impact on one thing or another.  We all lose our memory, some earlier than others. 

You just being obstinate. Brain studies have shown it is not the normal memory loss that is at issue here.

But as Heisenberg said, it is a cumulative thing. The NFL is probably the safest now among high school, college, or the NFL. Rather than being one or two big hits, it is the cumulative effect of the daily hits in practice. That was the reasoning behind limiting the padded practices that each team is able to conduct.

[ChicosBailBonds]

You just being obstinate. Brain studies have shown it is not the normal memory loss that is at issue here.

But as Heisenberg said, it is a cumulative thing. The NFL is probably the safest now among high school, college, or the NFL. Rather than being one or two big hits, it is the cumulative effect of the daily hits in practice. That was the reasoning behind limiting the padded practices that each team is able to conduct.

That's fine....that's not what Favre is talking about.  He's stating memory loss, which can happen to anyone.

As I said, does football have an impact.  Sure.  Is it it the only reason? Of course not.  How many people in those studies with memory loss in their 20s and 30s didn't play a single football play in their life?  People want to have nice packaging of everything.  Football causes brain issues.  Smoking was the reason she died.  Humans 100% cause of global waming\cooling\climate change (whatever they change it to these days).  The truth is, there are many factors and combination of factors.  Some have more influence than others, and some have very influence at all at the micro level but people want to make broad assumptions and assign blame.  It's what people do, nice gift wrapped with a bow packaging so it can be all tidied up.  Small bites, because apparently we are too stupid in this country to possibly think it can be many contributing factors....that's way too difficult for we mouth breathing humanoids to process.

[Tugg Speedman]

You just being obstinate. Brain studies have shown it is not the normal memory loss that is at issue here.

But as Heisenberg said, it is a cumulative thing. The NFL is probably the safest now among high school, college, or the NFL. Rather than being one or two big hits, it is the cumulative effect of the daily hits in practice. That was the reasoning behind limiting the padded practices that each team is able to conduct.

Correct, and to this day college practice is brutal compared to the NFL.  They are literally "banging heads" with each other everyday.

College football (via practice) is doing more damage than the NFL.  I would not be surprised if the NCAA pays multiples of what the NFL paid.  Ditto High School.

http://www.hbo.com/real-sports-with-bryant-gumbel/episodes#/real-sports-with-bryant-gumbel/episodes/0/188-episode/video/188-concussions.html/eNrjcmbOYM5nLtQsy0xJzXfMS8ypLMlMds7PK0mtKFHPz0mBCQUkpqf6JeamcjIyskknlpbkF+QkVtqWFJWmsjGyMQIAWCcXOA==

[ChicosBailBonds]

Correct, and to this day college practice is brutal compared to the NFL.  They are literally "banging heads" with each other everyday.

College football (via practice) is doing more damage than the NFL.  I would not be surprised if the NCAA pays multiples of what the NFL paid.  Ditto High School.

http://www.hbo.com/real-sports-with-bryant-gumbel/episodes#/real-sports-with-bryant-gumbel/episodes/0/188-episode/video/188-concussions.html/eNrjcmbOYM5nLtQsy0xJzXfMS8ypLMlMds7PK0mtKFHPz0mBCQUkpqf6JeamcjIyskknlpbkF+QkVtqWFJWmsjGyMQIAWCcXOA==

Many contributing factors.  Non football players have brain issues also, just as non smokers get lung cancer, just as the climate cooled and heated before human beings existed.  Does football contribute, of course.  Do humans contribute, of course.  Does smoking contribute, of course.  Is it the end all be all...no. 

Should the NCAA and high schools have to start paying out large amounts of money to soccer and basketball players that develop arthritis in the hips, knees, etc due to the constant pounding?  Does playing those sports contribute to those conditions?  Of course.  Why is it any different?

[Coleman]

Correct, and to this day college practice is brutal compared to the NFL.  They are literally "banging heads" with each other everyday.

College football (via practice) is doing more damage than the NFL.  I would not be surprised if the NCAA pays multiples of what the NFL paid.  Ditto High School.

http://www.hbo.com/real-sports-with-bryant-gumbel/episodes#/real-sports-with-bryant-gumbel/episodes/0/188-episode/video/188-concussions.html/eNrjcmbOYM5nLtQsy0xJzXfMS8ypLMlMds7PK0mtKFHPz0mBCQUkpqf6JeamcjIyskknlpbkF+QkVtqWFJWmsjGyMQIAWCcXOA==

High school and college practice is not the problem.

The problem is massive, super human, roided-up professionals who are 300 lbs, run a 4.7 40 yard dash, don't wrap up when they tackle and lower their heads for all hits, and the fans who love to see such hits.

The problems are not entirely absent from the lower levels, but the NFL is exacerbated due to the size and athleticism of the players and the complete disregard for traditional tackling techniques.

People are overthinking this. Don't eliminate the kickoff and change all the rules. Just go back to normal sized human beings and enforce traditional tackling rules

[Tugg Speedman]

High school and college practice is not the problem.

The problem is massive, super human, roided-up professionals who are 300 lbs, run a 4.7 40 yard dash, don't wrap up when they tackle and lower their heads for all hits, and the fans who love to see such hits.

The problems are not entirely absent from the lower levels, but the NFL is exacerbated due to the size and athleticism of the players and the complete disregard for traditional tackling techniques.

People are overthinking this. Don't eliminate the kickoff and change all the rules. Just go back to normal sized human beings and enforce traditional tackling rules

Watch the Real Sports link, it has the opposite of this.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Watch the Real Sports link, it has the opposite of this.

What did Bill Maher say?

[GGGG]

To be serious for a second ....

The NFL settlement was $765 million which many decried was a small sum given the NFL profits.

The lead attorney for the players pushed for this settlement because the issue of concussions was not in dispute.  The issue was how damaged where many of these players BEFORE they entered the NFL.  That means College, High school and even Pee-wee leagues bear some liability (according to the players lead attorney).

Actually the issue had more to do with the restitution process that was outlined in the CBA, which would have made the final verdict less then they eventually received.

[GGGG]

If you guys would read what he actually said, you would note that he doesn't necessarily blame football for his memory loss.  Just that the memory lapses have made him fearful.  Honestly you can't blame him for that.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Why shouldn't the NCAA, pro leagues have to pay for arthritic injuries?  What makes it different?  Why shouldn't Little League, AYSO, CYO, etc have to pay for those impacts?

At what point do people start to acknowledge there are risks in life, from playing football to getting into a car to eating a cheeseburger.  That we're all going to die, likely we're all going to get a disease of some kind (some escape this), and that often it is our own choices, behaviors, etc that lead to our demise, or certaily contribute to it.  Always someone else's fault.