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NersEllenson

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 14, 2013, 01:28:34 PM
I can tell y'all that a lot of negative recruitin', concernin' Buzz goin' to Texas, was tossed at a highly regarded local high school talent recently. In this instance, it was not gonna make a difference. But, I can see where it, potentially, could with others.

Find this totally believeable and do wish Buzz would make a public statement when jobs open up that he's not going anywhere, and is here for the long haul.  It concerns me that he hasn't really made such comments any of the past few years his name was in speculation.

Care to share which school was doing the negative recruiting?
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

NersEllenson

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 14, 2013, 12:38:52 PM
Some of his media..ahem..."mouthpieces" have suggested he would strongly listen and I see no reason why he wouldn't.  

Parrish, Goodman, Glockner...all said the same thing.

Wisconsin has a head coach.  Maybe when Bo Ryan retires Smart comes to UW.  

I have no idea if Buzz is a UT fan, he has painted his garage like Colorado State so maybe that's his dream job.   ;)

I just think people here are a bit blue\gold colored glasses if they fail to see how big the UT job is.  Not only the potential, but what they have done, how big the state is, how big the university is, the resources (facilities, television, etc) are second to none.  The only downside, it's a football school....but that has worked out fine for many other "football" schools that also excel in hoops.  We'll just have to wait and see, but I really don't see how anyone can legitimately argue Texas is a step down.

Agree with all of your analysis on the Texas job measured against MU.  Definitely gotta be tempting for Buzz...yet I feel if he makes a strong statement to say he's at MU for the long haul...and with the success he's had here, and what appears to be a really deep roster of talented players now, and future recruits....that soon MU will become a "blue blood" of sorts, due to the success Buzz has had here...and soon the recruiting trail won't be quite so difficult..but instead kids will really want to come to MU to play for Buzz...
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

4everwarriors

Didn't ask. The implication was several.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

tower912

#103
They negative-recruited like that against Crean for years.    Ultimately, they were right.    Texas is the big one.    If Texas offers and Buzz stays, then he will be here for a long time.  Or until Alford/Crean/Izzo leave.  
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Aughnanure

#104
Quote from: tower912 on September 14, 2013, 02:54:01 PM
The negative-recruited like that against Crean for years.    Ultimately, they were right.    Texas is the big one.    If Texas offers and Buzz stays, then he will be here for a long time.  Or until Alford/Crean/Izzo leave.  

Agree, at least we'll finally find out. Hoping Buzz seeing them fire the most successful Texas basketball coach EVER (by far) after just 2 bad years will make him think twice.

Buzz to Michigan St? If he turns down UT, it's not going to be MSU later.


“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on September 14, 2013, 02:54:01 PM
They negative-recruited like that against Crean for years.    Ultimately, they were right.    Texas is the big one.    If Texas offers and Buzz stays, then he will be here for a long time.  Or until Alford/Crean/Izzo leave.  

Exactly ... which was the point of my original post!
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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: brandx on September 14, 2013, 12:47:28 PM
I'm not arguing your points. I just think an awful lot of people here assume Buzz would automatically go if the Texas job opens up.

Maybe he would, but I am certainly not convinced

No idea if he'll go, but I think we need to accept the fact Texas isn't a step down.  That's silly talk.   

Dish

I don't know about Barnes, but Mack Brown ain't gonna make it to Monday.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: MUDish on September 14, 2013, 10:21:33 PM
I don't know about Barnes, but Mack Brown ain't gonna make it to Monday.

That's not a good thing either.  The next Texas football coach will make a lot.  The more the football coach makes, the more the basketball coach can make.  Schools don't like paying basketball coaches more than football coaches, but if you raise the ceiling on the football coach, that allows more room for the hoops guy.


TAMU, Knower of Ball

Not to pile onto the Texas is going to suck train but their starting PG Javon Felix had hip surgery and is out "indefinitely." Things keep getting worse for Barnes
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


dgies9156

Why Buzz isn't going anywhere:
  1) He's built success at Marquette and we're a contender for all the marbles, if not this year in the not too distant future.
  2) Texas is a major near-term rebuild job with an impatient alumni base who expect short-term success. He's already faced that once and succeeded. Why would he do it again?
  3) Austin's summers are worse than Milwaukee's winters. You can always put another layer on, but there's only so much you can take off!
  4) Who would want to live in Austin after living in Milwaukee? You can find other Austins but Milwaukee is a classic all its own! And since the end of Lavernge and Shirley, we don't talk funny!
  5) Buzz seems to be a man of faith and reason. His values are Marquette values and I do think he's happy here. I think his family is respected and loved in our community.
  6) We eat our cattle. We don't harvest their horns and hang 'em somewhere.
  7) Who would want to raise children that had never seen the frozen tundra and snow in Wisconsin!
  8) We have the best basketball fans in the country! He'll never be second fiddle to a football coach at Marquette!~

Seriously, I am tired of the naysayers. You're just waiting for a self-fulfilling prophesy that you can shove down our throats and tell us how right you are. I really hope he doesn't leave because he is starting something special. I also do believe Marquette's values suit Buzz well. And, he's well respected and well compensated in Wisconsin.

ChicosBailBonds

He's almost got the fingers right....needs to use his thumb for the horns


TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: dgies9156 on October 11, 2013, 12:18:24 AM
Seriously, I am tired of the naysayers. You're just waiting for a self-fulfilling prophesy that you can shove down our throats and tell us how right you are. I really hope he doesn't leave because he is starting something special. I also do believe Marquette's values suit Buzz well. And, he's well respected and well compensated in Wisconsin.

First, I loved you list.

Second, I don't think you will find more than a handful of people on here who would say they think Buzz is leaving. And I know you wouldn't find anybody who wants Buzz to leave.

Third, I'll take credit for bringing up a lot of this stuff. To be honest, I think I'm more interested than most because I have the added benefit of living in Texas. I hate the Longhorns with my entire heart and soul (almost as much as Bucky and ND) and it would kill me to see Buzz in burnt orange.

Fourth, I know there are many who are tired of the rumors and just want to pretend its not happening. Don't take my bringing it up as "the sky is falling" or trying to get my opinion in before Buzz leaves so I can say how I was the smartest Chicken Little in the Hiroshima coop. I just prefer to discuss the reality of the situation. Barnes is being set up for a Depaul of a year, Buzz has been linked to the Texas job for years, and will likely interview for the job should Barnes be fired.

Personally, I agree with you that he will stay.

Also, I know some of you would rather just not hear anymore of this. If this makes it up to you at all, I promise you, should Buzz leave for Texas, I will verbally beotchslap the first moron to say "I told you so."
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Lennys Tap

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on October 11, 2013, 01:18:32 AM




Also, I know some of you would rather just not hear anymore of this. If this makes it up to you at all, I promise you, should Buzz leave for Texas, I will verbally beotchslap the first moron to say "I told you so."

I think we all know who that would be.

ATL MU Warrior


We R Final Four

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 11, 2013, 12:39:51 AM
He's almost got the fingers right....needs to use his thumb for the horns


I didn't even need to look who posted this when I saw this photo.

ChicosBailBonds

I don't get the worry....Buzz has said he will stay as long as MU will have him.  Now that the president of the university who dared to be a president of a university is leaving, there is even more reason for him to stay.

MU wants him, end of story.  You just have to trust the man. 

There are certainly people here that believe he will leave, who knows.  I'm sure those folks will do an "I told you so", but it is out of our control.  He's got a good thing going.  If he leaves, MU will get another good coach.

I like your list, but find a lot of it flawed as well.  Just let it all play out. MU is a fine university, Milwaukee a wonderful town.  Austin is also a wonderful town and UT a fine university. Buzz is a very good coach, they would be silly not to interview him and gauge his interest. 


Canned Goods n Ammo

At the risk of being Chicken Little, I think if UT calls, Buzz goes. 

I have no insider information. Just a hunch.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope Buzz is at MU for a long time.


Goose

Chico's

I believe Buzz takes UT job if offered and would not blame him. Hope I am wrong and I would not say "I told you so". If he left it would be for family and financial reasons first and how can you blame someone? There just seems to be too much chatter for no basis to rumors.

dw3dw3dw3


ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Goose on October 11, 2013, 09:40:47 AM
Chico's

I believe Buzz takes UT job if offered and would not blame him. Hope I am wrong and I would not say "I told you so". If he left it would be for family and financial reasons first and how can you blame someone? There just seems to be too much chatter for no basis to rumors.

Could be the case.  There are just a few posters here that have perpetual viagra moments for me and would like to think that if he goes that I will be the one saying I told you so.  Not the case at all, but these guys as has been shown time and time again rarely see the whole picture, but cherry pick comments.  Plenty of people believe he would go, you included.  I think it would be a great opportunity and wouldn't blame him for a second if he goes, but certainly hope he stays.  Texas is a great job, tons of talent, great university, solid conference, their own TV channel, no state income tax, and it's home.  Tough to say no.  We'll see what happens, but I do anticipate Barnes may have a tough time surviving this year.  Then again, maybe they surprise all since the expectations are so darn low he does a decent job and stays. 

If he goes, MU will hire another solid coach, and somehow I'll be partially to blame for him leaving by the same 5 or 6 asshats.  LOL. 

bilsu

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on October 11, 2013, 09:36:45 AM
At the risk of being Chicken Little, I think if UT calls, Buzz goes. 

I have no insider information. Just a hunch.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope Buzz is at MU for a long time.


A lot would depend on whether Buzz wants to be a program re builder and where he thinks MU is headed. I am sure Buzz has talked to Crean a lot. Crean had to go through 2 really horrible seasons and one more bad season, before he got Indiana back to respectability and I do not care who you are losing is hard on coaches. Texas is not as bad as Indiana was, but as far as winning I suspect the next two years after this year the coach at MU is going to win more games than the coach at Texas. I have said before as long as Buzz feels he can recruit at MU he going to stay at MU. The key to Buzz turning down Texas is Buzz having a very good recruiting year this year. Right now we have two recruits, one of which did not do himself any favors. I think Buzz is likely to leave, if he strikes out on Hill, Shrayok(sp) & Miller. I am not sure signing one of those is enough as there are some very good recruiting classes in the Big East. Recruiting is a good indication of where you are going to finish in the conference in the future and if Buzz sees MU falling significantly down the pecking order in the Big East he be foolish to stay. Of course last year was a very good recruiting year and if Buzz thought Stone was coming to MU he could ignore a flame out in this years recruiting class.

hairy worthen

#122
Quote from: Goose on October 11, 2013, 09:40:47 AM
Chico's

I believe Buzz takes UT job if offered and would not blame him. Hope I am wrong and I would not say "I told you so". If he left it would be for family and financial reasons first and how can you blame someone? There just seems to be too much chatter for no basis to rumors.

To me "family and financial" would be reasons he stays. It is not easy or fun to uproot young kids from a place where they basically lived most of their life. I am not sure the money would be significantly more either.  

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Goose on October 11, 2013, 09:40:47 AM
Chico's

I believe Buzz takes UT job if offered and would not blame him. Hope I am wrong and I would not say "I told you so". If he left it would be for family and financial reasons first and how can you blame someone? There just seems to be too much chatter for no basis to rumors.

Joe Girardi was definitely going to manage the Cubs.  There is no way he is going to turn down his hometown and they will pay him.

LAZER

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 11, 2013, 08:58:11 AM
I don't get the worry....Buzz has said he will stay as long as MU will have him.  Now that the president of the university who dared to be a president of a university is leaving, there is even more reason for him to stay.

MU wants him, end of story.  You just have to trust the man. 

There are certainly people here that believe he will leave, who knows.  I'm sure those folks will do an "I told you so", but it is out of our control.  He's got a good thing going.  If he leaves, MU will get another good coach.

I like your list, but find a lot of it flawed as well.  Just let it all play out. MU is a fine university, Milwaukee a wonderful town.  Austin is also a wonderful town and UT a fine university. Buzz is a very good coach, they would be silly not to interview him and gauge his interest. 
Do you trust Buzz?

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