Hoping Texas sucks

[Jay Bee]

So you are saying he wanted to leave (more than once), but other schools refused his demands.

I don't believe it - show me the evidence. And don't play the SMU card cuz that bird won't fly.

I don't think the guy said that. Big difference between chatting about opportunities and "wanting to leave (more than once)"...

"I appreciate the call, I'm not going to hang up on you right away. Go ahead and tell me a little bit about the job. Especially tell me about the travel perqs - I'm used to ___, ___ and ___... is that something you guys do or would do?"

No big deal.

[brandx]

I don't think the guy said that. Big difference between chatting about opportunities and "wanting to leave (more than once)"...

"I appreciate the call, I'm not going to hang up on you right away. Go ahead and tell me a little bit about the job. Especially tell me about the travel perqs - I'm used to ___, ___ and ___... is that something you guys do or would do?"

No big deal.

I read it a little different than you. You may be right - maybe I took it wrong.

[pbiflyer]

Personally, I don't need any closure. The only people that need closure are the ones that perpetually speculate and analyze. Just enjoy what we got now...No need to try let yourself get scared every year that Texas doesn't perform. If it eventually happens, then it happens...but I'm not going to worry about it now.

We've got a great coach. A great team. And we are in the middle of a great era of MUBB. Just enjoy it!

A few years ago (the one where Lazar essentially played center), I was fortunate enough to watch a summer open gym session. At the time, I thought, I am not sure how good these guys are going to be, but they are going to be fun to watch! I take the same attitude with Buzz. Not sure how long he will be here, but I am going to enjoy watching him while he's here.

[GOO]

A few years ago (the one where Lazar essentially played center), I was fortunate enough to watch a summer open gym session. At the time, I thought, I am not sure how good these guys are going to be, but they are going to be fun to watch! I take the same attitude with Buzz. Not sure how long he will be here, but I am going to enjoy watching him while he's here.

Indeed, we all need to remember that everything around us is only temporary and always changing.  You can never set foot in the same river twice.  It is always changing.  Let's appreciate and enjoy the moments that we have, including Buzz.  Let's fully appreciate the now, for it will not be forever, as we all know.

[GGGG]

Just to get everyone riled up some more...

Deloss Dodds is going to retire and wants to have a successor in place by January so they can make potential changes in football, basketball and baseball.

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1549065

[brewcity77]

Just saw on Twitter that according to UT spokesman Nick Voinis, that story from Orangebloods is "absolutely not true." Dodds isn't going anywhere as far as Texas knows.

[GGGG]

Just saw on Twitter that according to UT spokesman Nick Voinis, that story from Orangebloods is "absolutely not true." Dodds isn't going anywhere as far as Texas knows.

Or they're not saying.  Orangebloods is usually pretty good about this stuff.

[4everwarriors]

Crean was posturin' to leave as soon as he took the MU gig.

[brandx]

Indeed, we all need to remember that everything around us is only temporary and always changing.  You can never set foot in the same river twice.  It is always changing.  Let's appreciate and enjoy the moments that we have, including Buzz.  Let's fully appreciate the now, for it will not be forever, as we all know.

All of us are "day-to-day"

[ChicosBailBonds]

Crean was posturin' to leave as soon as he took the MU gig.

So was Deane, K.O., etc

[4everwarriors]

Did Buzz ever introduce tha radio dude at the Pabst Theater?

[4everwarriors]

So was Deane, K.O., etc

Maybe it is just a lily pad job kinda like Billy Packer said, hey?

[brewcity77]

Or they're not saying.  Orangebloods is usually pretty good about this stuff.

They are saying. Voinis is the associate AD and in charge of communications for the UT sports department. Maybe he's wrong, but he is someone who should know and would be in charge of commenting on something like this. If he's saying "absolutely not true" it's at least worth acknowledging.

Could Voinis be playing coy? Sure. He is viewed by some as Dodds' likely successor.

[We R Final Four]

Did Buzz ever introduce tha radio dude at the Pabst Theater?

no-jay mohr cancelled due to 'scheduling conflicts'--buzz still comes on his show tho.

[bilsu]

I do not think Buzz goes anywhere next year including Texas. I think if Buzz does leave he takes a job in the best basketball conference. There will likely be several ACC job opening up in the next three years. Duke and Syracuse have coaches who could very well retire in the nest three years, but Syracuse job is already promised to an assistant and I suspect Dukie job will go to a former Duke player. Boston Co., Clemson, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech and Wake Forest based on the current coaches record's will probably be looking for new coaches in the next three years. I could see the North Carolina job opening up given that Roy Williams occasionally has dizzy spells on sidelines.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Mark Turgeon, former Roy Williams assistant, is often mentioned as Roy Williams replacement.  Hubert Davis is another.  Steve Robinson...or about the time Roy retires, some guy named Brad Stevens.

[brandx]

I'm always amazed here how so many feel that the Texas job is one of the Holy Grails of college basketball jobs that Buzz would die for. Basketball is secondary there and always has been. There is no long line of great coaches there. Their history is to hire semi-successful mid-level coaches.

Buzz will eventually be in line for one of the true blueblood jobs (IMO), and so may leave, but it will be a few more years at least before this occurs unless there is an unexpected opening.

At best, Texas is a lateral move - more likely a step down.

[forgetful]

I'm always amazed here how so many feel that the Texas job is one of the Holy Grails of college basketball jobs that Buzz would die for. Basketball is secondary there and always has been. There is no long line of great coaches there. Their history is to hire semi-successful mid-level coaches.

Buzz will eventually be in line for one of the true blueblood jobs (IMO), and so may leave, but it will be a few more years at least before this occurs unless there is an unexpected opening.

At best, Texas is a lateral move - more likely a step down.

I agree, one of the articles above, essentially said just as much.  They argued the only reason Buzz is in the conversation is that he grew up here. 

Question is did he ever even consider himself a UT fan?

[ChicosBailBonds]

I'm always amazed here how so many feel that the Texas job is one of the Holy Grails of college basketball jobs that Buzz would die for. Basketball is secondary there and always has been. There is no long line of great coaches there. Their history is to hire semi-successful mid-level coaches.

Buzz will eventually be in line for one of the true blueblood jobs (IMO), and so may leave, but it will be a few more years at least before this occurs unless there is an unexpected opening.

At best, Texas is a lateral move - more likely a step down.

Step down....no.  Lateral move...unlikely.

They have 3 Final Fours.  Marquette has 3 Final Fours

30 NCAA appearances...Marquette has 31

Elite 8's, Texas has 7....Marquette has 7

NCAA titles 0, MU has 1

Conference titles....no comparison.  25 for Texas, 3 for MU.   If you look at years that MU was in a conference to compare apples to apples, Texas has 6, MU 3.

Better facilities, more talent in the state, secure conference and if the conference breaks up Texas is the number one option for every conference in the nation, largest athletic budget in NCAA, their own television network that by next year will have distribution with 90% of distributors (ESPN is mandating it...take Longhorn Network or you don't get ESPN), etc, etc.

It's not that it is a blueblood, it is what you can do there.  They are already a good program.  The obstacles there are smaller than other places.  No doubt it is a football school....so is Florida, yet they won two national titles in basketball and have a great program.  Ohio State is another.  Michigan is another. 

Throw in a guy from Texas, it would be appealing.

[brandx]

Step down....no.  Lateral move...unlikely.

They have 3 Final Fours.  Marquette has 3 Final Fours

30 NCAA appearances...Marquette has 31

Elite 8's, Texas has 7....Marquette has 7

NCAA titles 0, MU has 1

Conference titles....no comparison.  25 for Texas, 3 for MU.   If you look at years that MU was in a conference to compare apples to apples, Texas has 6, MU 3.

Better facilities, more talent in the state, secure conference and if the conference breaks up Texas is the number one option for every conference in the nation, largest athletic budget in NCAA, their own television network that by next year will have distribution with 90% of distributors (ESPN is mandating it...take Longhorn Network or you don't get ESPN), etc, etc.

It's not that it is a blueblood, it is what you can do there.  They are already a good program.  The obstacles there are smaller than other places.  No doubt it is a football school....so is Florida, yet they won two national titles in basketball and have a great program.  Ohio State is another.  Michigan is another. 

Throw in a guy from Texas, it would be appealing.

Obviously, conference titles are no comparison - Marquette was an Independent for decades.

But Texas is a big state. Was Buzz a TU fan? Should we assume that Shaka Smart is dying to coach UW because he is a Wisco native? Could be, but we have no indication of such. Buzz has never said that Texas is his dream job. Or would it be A&M or Texas Tech or Houston, etc.?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Obviously, conference titles are no comparison - Marquette was an Independent for decades.

But Texas is a big state. Was Buzz a TU fan? Should we assume that Shaka Smart is dying to coach UW because he is a Wisco native? Could be, but we have no indication of such. Buzz has never said that Texas is his dream job. Or would it be A&M or Texas Tech or Houston, etc.?

Some of his media..ahem..."mouthpieces" have suggested he would strongly listen and I see no reason why he wouldn't.  

Parrish, Goodman, Glockner...all said the same thing.

Wisconsin has a head coach.  Maybe when Bo Ryan retires Smart comes to UW.  

I have no idea if Buzz is a UT fan, he has painted his garage like Colorado State so maybe that's his dream job.  

I just think people here are a bit blue\gold colored glasses if they fail to see how big the UT job is.  Not only the potential, but what they have done, how big the state is, how big the university is, the resources (facilities, television, etc) are second to none.  The only downside, it's a football school....but that has worked out fine for many other "football" schools that also excel in hoops.  We'll just have to wait and see, but I really don't see how anyone can legitimately argue Texas is a step down.

[brandx]

Some of his media..ahem..."mouthpieces" have suggested he would strongly listen and I see no reason why he wouldn't.  

Parrish, Goodman, Glockner...all said the same thing.

Wisconsin has a head coach.  Maybe when Bo Ryan retires Smart comes to UW.  

I have no idea if Buzz is a UT fan, he has painted his garage like Colorado State so maybe that's his dream job.  

I just think people here are a bit blue\gold colored glasses if they fail to see how big the UT job is.  Not only the potential, but what they have done, how big the state is, how big the university is, the resources (facilities, television, etc) are second to none.  The only downside, it's a football school....but that has worked out fine for many other "football" schools that also excel in hoops.  We'll just have to wait and see, but I really don't see how anyone can legitimately argue Texas is a step down.

I'm not arguing your points. I just think an awful lot of people here assume Buzz would automatically go if the Texas job opens up.

Maybe he would, but I am certainly not convinced

[Jay Bee]

I'm not arguing your points. I just think an awful lot of people here assume Buzz would automatically go if the Texas job opens up.

Maybe he would, but I am certainly not convinced

For a liberal you're making some good common sense here.

The fact is people are individuals who make decisions for a myriad of reasons. There isn't a checklist that lists two programs.. "OK, which one has the most checks? Oh, it's Texas, that means I'd go to Texas"...

Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't. There are pluses and minuses and some of them are hugely subjective and even emotional.

I know Chicos places GREAT value on young journalists who have a job with employers that receive a lot of public attention, but much of what they write is... loose.

[4everwarriors]

I can tell y'all that a lot of negative recruitin', concernin' Buzz goin' to Texas, was tossed at a highly regarded local high school talent recently. In this instance, it was not gonna make a difference. But, I can see where it, potentially, could with others.

[brandx]

For a liberal you're making some good common sense here.

The fact is people are individuals who make decisions for a myriad of reasons. There isn't a checklist that lists two programs.. "OK, which one has the most checks? Oh, it's Texas, that means I'd go to Texas"...

Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't. There are pluses and minuses and some of them are hugely subjective and even emotional.

I know Chicos places GREAT value on young journalists who have a job with employers that receive a lot of public attention, but much of what they write is... loose.

I thought us liberals always used good common sense