Looney visit to Duke started last night

[Abode4life]

Thank you for your low information name calling. When you cannot argue the facts thats what you resort to--pounding the table and denigration. I do not consider a 6'10" guy a switchable--you do. I am referring to the 6'3"  to 6'6" switchables. Speaking of things--stay classy, Skink. We all know that your opinions are the only ones that matter.

Back to Looney.... Buzz considers Switchables to be players who can play multiple positions and not be limited to "oh he's 6"10 so he has to play inside".  Hence the term switchable.  If you have ever seen Looney play, I don't know how you don't consider him a switchable.

[Freeport Warrior]

The oddest part, and maybe indicative of the situation, is that Tom Diener left Hamilton and a real good chance of another state championship with Looney. Most hs coaches would trade their left one for that chance. Odd part of an odd situation.

Not odd at all. Deiner went to Cedarburg to set the table for his son John, so that he can coach him during high school. And I would argue that there are more than a handful of teams that could beat Hamilton with Looney. He's just one guy. Germantown and Brookfield Central come to mind.

Back to Looney.... Buzz considers Switchables to be players who can play multiple positions and not be limited to "oh he's 6"10 so he has to play inside".  Hence the term switchable.  If you have ever seen Looney play, I don't know how you don't consider him a switchable.

Seen him play many times. Looney is the definition of a switchable.

[mu-rara]

I just can't get over Coach Cryin's record developing NBA talent.  Why would a talent like Looney even consider UW? 

I know for many instate kids, UW is their one and only choice, but Looney, really?

[The Equalizer]

I just can't get over Coach Cryin's record developing NBA talent.  Why would a talent like Looney even consider UW? 

Maybe he sees guys like Leuer and Stiemsma earning NBA paychecks and feels that Bo ins't that much of a hinderence.

Plus, I suspect that UW's new strength and conditioning coach Erik Helland, arriving after 24 years with the Chicago Bulls, will be a big attraction to players aiming for the NBA. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

Looney's visit and words about Duke and UW-madison, among others

http://ny2lasports.com/article_one.aspx?articleid=1584

[GB Warrior]

I think Looney wants to coast to the league. Buzz isn't going to let anyone coast, and that could very well be a turn-off.

[4everwarriors]

Looney's visit and words about Duke and UW-madison, among others

http://ny2lasports.com/article_one.aspx?articleid=1584

No, I did not write this article.

[4everwarriors]

I think Looney wants to coast to the league. Buzz isn't going to let anyone coast, and that could very well be a turn-off.

Huh? Couldn't be more wrong. Son, you don't get to where Kevon is by coastin'.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I think Looney wants to coast to the league. Buzz isn't going to let anyone coast, and that could very well be a turn-off.

If he is considering playing for Izzo, Donovan, Ryan, etc....he isn't looking at coasting. 

[JWags85]

Maybe he sees guys like Leuer and Stiemsma earning NBA paychecks and feels that Bo ins't that much of a hinderence.

Leuer who barely plays and goes between the NBA and the NBDL and Stiemsma who bounced around Europe, Asia, and the NBDL for a few years after college before getting his shot with the Celtics?   Those aren't exactly glowing examples to imply Bo is going to be helpful to his NBA aspirations.

[mu-rara]

Maybe he sees guys like Leuer and Stiemsma earning NBA paychecks and feels that Bo ins't that much of a hinderence.

Plus, I suspect that UW's new strength and conditioning coach Erik Helland, arriving after 24 years with the Chicago Bulls, will be a big attraction to players aiming for the NBA. 

You got me on Leuer.  OK.  (still not nearly as successful as Matthews, Butler, Crowder)

Stiemsma...highly rated recruit who had to relearn the game after 4 years of Bo.  He was rated higher than Al Horford by some services.  How many years until he got his shot in the NBA? 4?  4 years to erase the taint of Bo.

Strength and Conditioning coach should be around #28 on the list of reasons to pick a school.  I hear Marquette has a good one, by the way.

[GGGG]

I think Looney wants to coast to the league. Buzz isn't going to let anyone coast, and that could very well be a turn-off.

Oh please....Buzz will be too hard on him? 

[jesmu84]

No, I did not write this article.

Well played

[TedBaxter]

Conversation on a Wisconsin message board about Kevon Looney.  Why would Buzz continue to recruit Kevon if this is true?  

Poster 1 -If he (Kevon) was going to leave on a home school why wouldnt it be Marquette?

Poster 2 - Family not big Buzz Williams fans.

[brewcity77]

Conversation on a Wisconsin message board about Kevon Looney.  Why would Buzz continue to recruit Kevon if this is true?  

Poster 1 -If he (Kevon) was going to leave on a home school why wouldnt it be Marquette?

Poster 2 - Family not big Buzz Williams fans.

That's also become one of the the de facto answers every Badger fan goes to when Buzz stops pursuing a recruit. I put virtually no stock in it.

[NotAnAlum]

Buzz comes on very strong and while a lot of players families seem to love his style there are going to be some who don't.  Could be Looney's parents in that minority.  That happens.  It leaves Wis as the only High Major that they could drive to the home games.  That is an incentive.  If you look at the decision purely logically all these other schools are better paths to the NBA.  Ryan's track record on NBA talent is below what you'd expect given the success of his teams.  In the end do Looney's parents what to take a bigger risk to make it easier to get to the games or do they go with the logical choice.

[Lennys Tap]

Conversation on a Wisconsin message board about Kevon Looney.  Why would Buzz continue to recruit Kevon if this is true?  

Poster 1 -If he (Kevon) was going to leave on a home school why wouldnt it be Marquette?

Poster 2 - Family not big Buzz Williams fans.

When I'm looking a fair, accurate assessment of Buzz and Marquette I always go to the Wisconsin message boards.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I just can't get over Coach Cryin's record developing NBA talent.  Why would a talent like Looney even consider UW? 

I know for many instate kids, UW is their one and only choice, but Looney, really?

Dekker is projected as the 17th pick in the 2014 draft per ESPN

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9652326/nba-andrew-wiggins-tops-2014-mock-draft-10


Draft Express has him at 24th

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2014/

[wadesworld]

Dekker is projected as the 17th pick in the 2014 draft per ESPN

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9652326/nba-andrew-wiggins-tops-2014-mock-draft-10


Draft Express has him at 24th

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2014/

I am asking this because I honestly don't know if this is what you're trying to do or not, but are you using a 2014 mock draft to prove Bo has no problem turning players into NBA players?

[ChicosBailBonds]

I am asking this because I honestly don't know if this is what you're trying to do or not, but are you using a 2014 mock draft to prove Bo has no problem turning players into NBA players?

I was responding to the point made about Coach Ryan's ability (or inability) to develop NBA players in his program.  It seems that some drafting experts believe Ryan is going to have a first rounder after this season.  We can't predict the future, and Dekker may flop this year or blow out a knee, who knows, but based on their track record I would think at the very least Dekker gets drafted next year (if he comes out) and he might be a first rounder (at least according to ESPN and DraftExpress).  If that were to happen, that would be three guys in the last four years.  MU has done better, so have a number of other schools, but he would have put 3 guys in the last 4 years into the Association.

[Pakuni]

I was responding to the point made about Coach Ryan's ability (or inability) to develop NBA players in his program.  It seems that some drafting experts believe Ryan is going to have a first rounder after this season.  We can't predict the future, and Dekker may flop this year or blow out a knee, who knows, but based on their track record I would think at the very least Dekker gets drafted next year (if he comes out) and he might be a first rounder (at least according to ESPN and DraftExpress).  If that were to happen, that would be three guys in the last four years.  MU has done better, so have a number of other schools, but he would have put 3 guys in the last 4 years into the Association.

That would make for three first-round picks and eight NBA players in 13 seasons at UW.
Not exactly a stellar record of achievement when it comes to putting players in the league.

[ChicosBailBonds]

That would make for three first-round picks and eight NBA players in 13 seasons at UW.
Not exactly a stellar record of achievement when it comes to putting players in the league.

I guess it all depends to whom one is comparing it to.  Duke, Kentucky, UCLA?  The new data won't be out until next month, but going off opening day rosters of last year that RPIRATINGS put together, Wisconsin had more guys in the NBA than Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Kansas State, Purdue, St. John's, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Xavier, Boston College, Arizona State, BYU, Oklahoma, Providence, Seton Hall, DePaul, Minnesota, West Virginia, Temple, North Carolina State, etc, etc.   Wisconsin had the same number of NBA guys as Louisville, Pitt, Vanderbilt, Maryland, Iowa State, Georgetown, Missouri, UNLV, Cincinnati, Florida State, etc.

In fact, only 25 schools had more players in the NBA than Wisconsin....all the usual suspects including Marquette, UCLA, Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, etc...and then the odd ones like USC, Washington, Notre Dame, Stanford, Colorado.


One could also argue that with so "few players in the Association" by Wisconsin (again, I don't think that's necessarily accurate), yet they still won multiple Big Ten titles, Big Ten Tournaments, NCAA games, etc....they must be doing something right or have a pretty good coach at the helm.

[oldwarrior81]

Bo's job isn't to get players ready for a pro career.

Possibly the best pro career for any of Ryan's recruits has been Greg Stiemsma.  At least he's made it on the floor for over 100 games.

[We R Final Four]

Chicos--we get it!!!!!!!!!!

You think Bo is a pretty good/really good/great coach.  We get your position on Coach Cryin.

Every other frickin post you are reminding us what you think of Bo.  Leave it alone for christs sake.

[Lennys Tap]

Chicos--we get it!!!!!!!!!!

You think Bo is a pretty good/really good/great coach.  We get your position on Coach Cryin.

Every other frickin post you are reminding us what you think of Bo.  Leave it alone for christs sake.

Ironically, Chicos wasn't always such a big Bo Ryan fan. He used to rip him pretty hard back in the day. But when Crean left and MU hired Buzz he started lovin' himself some Bo.