MU-G'Town Rivalry

[forgetful]

There's a good book titled "To Hate Like this is to be Happy Forever," which outlines the rivalry and its roots.

I understand you're biased towards your school's rivalry, but your perception of the mutual respect shown by Duke/UNC is way, way off.  UNC hates Duke the way only a public school can hate the private school down the road.  While at UNC, Larry Brown was in a bad brawl with a Duke player, there have been numerous instances of violence between the two fan bases; they absolutely hate each other.

Also, Southerns are not as nice as necessarily nice as you seem to think.

Southerners have people fooled.  They are nice and sweet to everyone's face, but would stab their own family in the back the moment they step away from them.

Northerners typically tell it like it is.  If they like you, they are nice to you.  If they don't they'll let you know.

[brewcity77]

People view those rivalries as on another level because the media hypes it as such. Georgetown v. Syracuse is built on pure hate and there is no mutual respect like in the Duke v. UNC rivalry. Just pure unadulterated hate. I don't care what anyone says. But Georgetown and Syracuse hate each other as much or more than any sports rivalry. If you're not a part of it, you cannot know. These teams used to get into physical fights on the court in the 80s. The duke v. UNC rivalry is overblown by ESPN. Southerners are too nice to really hate each other. Up north we know how it's done. It's a rivalry based on them being close together and competitive, but they don't truly hate each other the way Georgetown and Syracuse hate each other.

feel free to argue otherwise, but it won't change my opinion.

You may hate Syracuse, but it's just not there. Sorry. The kind of rivalry Duke and UNC have is the kind of rivalry that is bred 365 days a year by constant contact. And even their rivalry, which is unquestionably the fiercest in college basketball, still isn't a rivalry that you can put up with the true bitter rivalries in sports. Those rivalries are deeper than just a team or a game, those are the rivalries where religious and political lines are displayed between the lines of a game. Rivalries like Lazio and Roma, Barcelona and Real Madrid, and Rangers and Celtic are unlike anything we have in this country.

[Lennys Tap]

Southerners have people fooled.  They are nice and sweet to everyone's face, but would stab their own family in the back the moment they step away from them.

Northerners typically tell it like it is.  If they like you, they are nice to you.  If they don't they'll let you know.

Wow. Stunning in its broad brush, simplistic bigotry.

[MU82]

People view those rivalries as on another level because the media hypes it as such. Georgetown v. Syracuse is built on pure hate and there is no mutual respect like in the Duke v. UNC rivalry. Just pure unadulterated hate. I don't care what anyone says. But Georgetown and Syracuse hate each other as much or more than any sports rivalry. If you're not a part of it, you cannot know. These teams used to get into physical fights on the court in the 80s. The duke v. UNC rivalry is overblown by ESPN. Southerners are too nice to really hate each other. Up north we know how it's done. It's a rivalry based on them being close together and competitive, but they don't truly hate each other the way Georgetown and Syracuse hate each other.

feel free to argue otherwise, but it won't change my opinion.

I will defer to your knowledge of the hatred in the Georgetown-Syracuse rivalry. But ...

It is now officially an ex-rivalry. To continute to be a rivalry, teams need to ... I don't know ... actually play each other.

It's kind of like the Marquette-Notre Dame rivalry. It simply has gone away, courtesy of conference shuffling. I'm hoping we start back up with a regular non-con game, just as we play Wisconsin every year, but we'll see. I hope you the Hoyas get the same with Syracuse down the line.

Now, as much as I'll defer to your Hoyas knowledge, I will say you are in no position to talk about the Duke-UNC rivalry.

Believe me, they hate each other. More importantly, the fans hate each other. I mean, pretty much everybody hates Duke.

[Windyplayer]

MU/Georgetown will could eventually surpass MU/Louisville.  Duke/UNC is another stratosphere with Yankees/Red Sox, Alabama/Auburn, and Michigan/Ohio State.

It's only a matter of time before the Louisville rivalry goes by the wayside now that both teams are in different conferences and given the distance between the schools.

[boyonthedock]

Everyone likes us too much for us to get any real rivals. Even Louisville fans generally like our school and teams. Even schools that don't like us, like wisconsin, don't exactly hate us either. Its just a weird function of getting in late in the conference game and then only staying connected with a doormat like depaul.

[seakm4]

I think X will end up being our biggest rival. They are easy to dislike.

It's true.  Just ask Yancy Gates.

[WarriorInNYC]

You may hate Syracuse, but it's just not there. Sorry. The kind of rivalry Duke and UNC have is the kind of rivalry that is bred 365 days a year by constant contact. And even their rivalry, which is unquestionably the fiercest in college basketball, still isn't a rivalry that you can put up with the true bitter rivalries in sports. Those rivalries are deeper than just a team or a game, those are the rivalries where religious and political lines are displayed between the lines of a game. Rivalries like Lazio and Roma, Barcelona and Real Madrid, and Rangers and Celtic are unlike anything we have in this country.

One of the nastiest sports rivalries out there that not many people know about... BYU and Utah

[bilsu]

It's only a matter of time before the Louisville rivalry goes by the wayside now that both teams are in different conferences and given the distance between the schools.

To the general fan base you are correct, but I do not think it will go away for me. Not as long as they keep successfully recruiting players MU wants. I do not think we have ever beaten them out for a recruit. For me there are two basketball seasons. The one where you recruit and the one where you play games.

[Eldon]

In my opinion, the Michigan-tOSU is unmatched in all of college sports.  I know it's more of football than bball, but still, that is the only college rivalry that matches the great and historic rivalries in sports (eg Packers-Bears, Sox-Yanks, etc)

[Spotcheck Billy]

I always thought Navy-Army was bigger than OSU-MI or would that not be considered 'college'?

[Atticus]

In my opinion, the Michigan-tOSU is unmatched in all of college sports.  I know it's more of football than bball, but still, that is the only college rivalry that matches the great and historic rivalries in sports (eg Packers-Bears, Sox-Yanks, etc)

That game is still mostly a regional game...as most rivalries are. The 30 for 30 with Bo Jackson was the first time I learned just how huge the bama-auburn game is because I've never lived in that state or anywhere else in the deep south.

[warriorchick]

One of the nastiest sports rivalries out there that not many people know about... BYU and Utah

What...do they get all hopped up on lemonade and call each other "flippin' idiots"?

[Galway Eagle]

No mention of the Kentucky Louisville rivalry? If I had to pick a rivalry that would match duke unc that'd be it

[bilsu]

No mention of the Kentucky Louisville rivalry? If I had to pick a rivalry that would match duke unc that'd be it

Duke/North Carolina vs Louisville/Kentucky
Lousiville is looked down upon by a lot of Kentuckians, while a Duke or North Carolina fan may not like the other they really have no real reason to say their school or basketball program is better.
Duke & North Carolina are 9 miles apart and play more than once a year.
Duke and North Carolina are in the same conference.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Southerners are too nice to really hate each other. Up north we know how it's done.

I'm gonna guess you've never been to the South. Don't tell TAMU/UT that they don't know how to have a rivalry, or OK/OKST, or BAMA/AUB, FLA/FSU, USC/CLEM. Rivalries down here I would say surpass anything I've seen in the north.

I will give you that the southern rivalries are more based in football than basketball, but there is nothing nice about them.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

One of the nastiest sports rivalries out there that not many people know about... BYU and Utah

As a former employee of the University of Utah, I can vouch for this. I worked there for less than a year but I still will hate the Cougars for the rest of my days. That's how powerful the hate is.

I think Georgetown will emerge as our biggest rival. It is true that we don't have the geography, the history, or go after the same recruits. But rivalries are born by playing against each other in close, well played, often controversial, important games. I would not be surprised to see us and GTWN play each other in the championship game this year and in most years for the beginning of the new BEast. Years of trading close championship games will eventually solidify this as a solid rivalry.

[MarquetteDano]

You could really get the rivalry a lot of coverage if you could get the No. 1 Jesuit to attend the game.

LOL.  I just got a great image of the FS1 cameras focused on the Pope and he is clad in G'Town attire rocking the #1 index finger!   

[Galway Eagle]

Duke/North Carolina vs Louisville/Kentucky
Lousiville is looked down upon by a lot of Kentuckians, while a Duke or North Carolina fan may not like the other they really have no real reason to say their school or basketball program is better.
Duke & North Carolina are 9 miles apart and play more than once a year.
Duke and North Carolina are in the same conference.

Both schools are extremely good basketball programs, they're 80miles apart, there's a ton I history going back 99years including NCAA matchups.   MU is looked down upon by a ton of Sconies yet that doesn't mean that the rivalry isn't heated. 

[Lennys Tap]

Of the "natural" college football rivalries, none is bigger than OSU - Michigan. One not mentioned that I'd put in the top 5 is Texas - Oklahoma. Biggest inter sectional rivalry? USC - Notre Dame.

Lots of great CBB rivalries, but none come close to Duke - UNC.

[slingkong]

Wow. Stunning in its broad brush, simplistic bigotry.

And yet, he's more right than wrong.

[tower912]

Of the "natural" college football rivalries, none is bigger than OSU - Michigan. One not mentioned that I'd put in the top 5 is Texas - Oklahoma. Biggest inter sectional rivalry? USC - Notre Dame.

Lots of great CBB rivalries, but none come close to Duke - UNC.

Auburn and Alabama would like to dispute this.

[MUMonster03]

It's only a matter of time before the Louisville rivalry goes by the wayside now that both teams are in different conferences and given the distance between the schools.

That is one of the worst parts of all this realignment, rivalries are dieing for the all mighty dollar.

Maryland/Duke
Nebraska/Oklahoma
Texas A&M/Texas
Marquette/Notre Dame
Georgetown/Syracuse
Pitt/West Virginia

And other ones are getting watered down by so many teams being in a conference.
How often is Duke/UNC going to happen twice a year now?

[MUMonster03]

Auburn and Alabama would like to dispute this.

I have to slightly agree with this, a man killed trees because of this rivalry. But on the other hand my wife's cousins husband took back a table cloth they got for their wedding because it was too close to Ohio State red.

[Lennys Tap]

And yet, he's more right than wrong.

The self righteous, based somewhat on fact bigotry is the most dangerous kind.