Buzz a better recruiter than Tom Crean...

[ChuckyChip]

So says Jeff Goodman - http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/218219481.html

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I foresee this thread going well....

[Jay Bee]

Sour grapes

[Dawson Rental]

Scott Drew is way underranked.  I put him at number one.  He took a program that was nowhere to one that can compete with the big boys.  I can't feel good about MU's chances with anyone that has an offer from Baylor.

John Calipari number one?  Talk about giving the easy answer without thinking.  So, a guy goes from a school where he is recruiting a the highest level to the school it is easiest to recruit to, and has success.  Whad ya think was gonna happen Jeff Goodman?

[Mods, Delete me please. 8/26/2020]

No doy.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Scott Drew is way underranked.  I put him at number one.  He took a program that was nowhere to one that can compete with the big boys.  I can't feel good about MU's chances with anyone that has an offer from Baylor.

John Calipari number one?  Talk about giving the easy answer without thinking.  So, a guy goes from a school where he is recruiting a the highest level to the school it is easiest to recruit to, and has success.  Whad ya think was gonna happen Jeff Goodman?

Scott Drew is Calipari Jr. A whole mess of recruiting violations are going to fall on his head eventually.

[Brewtown Andy]

Scott Drew is way underranked.  I put him at number one.  He took a program that was nowhere to one that can compete with the big boys.  I can't feel good about MU's chances with anyone that has an offer from Baylor.

John Calipari number one?  Talk about giving the easy answer without thinking.  So, a guy goes from a school where he is recruiting a the highest level to the school it is easiest to recruit to, and has success.  Whad ya think was gonna happen Jeff Goodman?

The headline on ESPN.com: Toughest coaches to recruit against. The name on the front of the jersey is part of what makes a coach tough to recruit against.

[Galway Eagle]

who has calipari ever landed that was a top recruit?!!!!

[4everwarriors]

Coach Clover heads up the list of used car salesmen.

[mileskishnish72]

Funny, TSmith.

[Aughnanure]

What big recruits has Shaka landed to get that high?

Lavin, Buzz, Wright, but no GTIII?

[Atticus]

Interesting the Coach K and Boeheim are on the list. Both of them miss the peak recruiting sessions in the summer due to the Olympics every four years, the World Games in between and the qualifiers for both. Neither of those coaches spend a lot of time on the road. Their assistants should be on the list tho...

[brewcity77]

Interesting the Coach K and Boeheim are on the list. Both of them miss the peak recruiting sessions in the summer due to the Olympics every four years, the World Games in between and the qualifiers for both. Neither of those coaches spend a lot of time on the road. Their assistants should be on the list tho...

I know it's just one service, but I went back and checked ESPN's class rankings over the past 7 seasons. Between Duke and Syracuse, they have 13 appearances in the top-25 of recruiting rankings, with Syracuse the only one to miss the rankings (once in 2009). At the end of the day, the coach will get the lion's share of the credit. In addition, I get the sense that when Coach K and Boeheim do take the time to visit gyms, they are able to seal the deal fairly efficiently. Ever since K walked into a gym to watch Kevon Looney, it's felt like Duke was the school to beat. Their age and other commitments may not allow them as much road time as they once put in, but when they do, they both still seem to be killer recruiters.

[Dawson Rental]

There's no way that Mark Gottfried could have sniffed this list while he was at Alabama, although he had the occasional high recruit like Hendrix for the tide.

Doesn't Gottfried have a Crean connection?

[WarriorFan]

Nice to see Buzz getting this kind of credit - and he IS doing well at recruiting.  What's much more refreshing to see is how much better of a game coach he is than Crean.  Sure, he's nowhere near Boeheim or Izzo for in-game coaching and strategy adjustments but having watched Crean lose MU 2-3 games per season because he apparently wasn't watching (and he's cost Indiana games as well) it's nice to see in-game adjustments.

[PBRme]

Thank goodness Chicos is out of communication range or he would be in full Crean defense mode.

[4everwarriors]

Buzz does everything better than Coach Clover.

[Lennys Tap]

Buzz does everything better than Coach Clover.

Better coach, better recruiter, better man.

[4everwarriors]

Truer words were never spoken.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

The title of this thread sounds like a 14 year old girl telling her friend "I didn't want him to call anyway."

Crean left. We can move on now

[ChicosBailBonds]

Thank goodness Chicos is out of communication range or he would be in full Crean defense mode.

I'm right here.  Vacation doesn't start for a few more days.

1,951 days ago he left, 2,809,440 minutes ago.    Pretty amazing the constant need to keep comparing against him.  I guess he made an impact as I don't see anyone comparing him to Majerus, or O'Neill, or Deane, etc.  

[real chili 83]

I'm right here.  1,951 days ago he left, 2,809,440 minutes ago.    Pretty amazing the constant need to keep comparing against him.  I guess he made an impact as I don't see anyone comparing him to Majerus, or O'Neill, or Deane, etc. 

3....2....1...

[Galway Eagle]

I'm right here.  1,951 days ago he left, 2,809,440 minutes ago.    Pretty amazing the constant need to keep comparing against him.  I guess he made an impact as I don't see anyone comparing him to Majerus, or O'Neill, or Deane, etc. 

Yeah let's compare him to majerus who never got us to the tournament or O'Neill and Deane who both only had two ncaa appearances in their tenure here.  There's only three coaches worth comparing based on success and thats Al Crean and Buzz.

[wadesworld]

I'm right here.  1,951 days ago he left, 2,809,440 minutes ago.    Pretty amazing the constant need to keep comparing against him.  I guess he made an impact as I don't see anyone comparing him to Majerus, or O'Neill, or Deane, etc. 

But you never bring Crean up 

[Dawson Rental]

Yeah let's compare him to majerus who never got us to the tournament or O'Neill and Deane who both only had two ncaa appearances in their tenure here.  There's only three coaches worth comparing based on success and thats Al Crean and Buzz.

O'Neill's tenure was short.  His impact was not.  Except for Tony Smith the cupboard was bare.  His first year recruiting he made MU relevant again by recruiting two top 75 big men - yes, I said big men - and two other top 125 players.  He also got two coveted transfers from Arizona and Purdue.  In his last year MU got to (I think) the sweet sixteen which had not been done IIRC since Al.  Don't sell the profane one who cheated on his wife short as a resurrector of MU's badly faded basketball fortunes.