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Quote from: esard2011 on October 30, 2013, 05:02:50 PM
This is just one of those things that can turn around an entire program. I think Depul will be fine this year finishing closer to 7th place but with Alexander the Big East would be in incredible shape.

I have no faith in DPU. It seems with two guys like Melvin and Young, that team should really be doing...I don't know...something. Contending for the NIT or something along that level. Even guys like Clahar, Crockett, and Kirk seemed like decent enough role players.

Purnell's teams have been remarkably bad. It seems almost difficult to be so consistently bad, you'd think they'd manage to get 5-6 league wins some year just on the basis that someone else has an off night. Instead, Melvin and Young have a combined 6 wins in 3 years. Pathetic.

Maybe this recruiting class will turn it around. Garrett seems to have some real star potential and if Hamilton can slim down he was once a highly regarded recruit. But will they be ready to help lift DePaul out of the cellar? I'm not convinced. That program has problems that start well above Purnell's head, and until they fix things at the top, I don't expect them to turn it around.

EDIT: I have to imagine Alexander would help, but even if he does go there, it's still a team game. He might help them win a few, but I'm not convinced even his presence makes them a NCAA team.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Lot of talent there with Young, Kirk, Melvin, McKinney and Garrett

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: brewcity77 on October 30, 2013, 05:39:47 PM
I have no faith in DPU. It seems with two guys like Melvin and Young, that team should really be doing...I don't know...something. Contending for the NIT or something along that level. Even guys like Clahar, Crockett, and Kirk seemed like decent enough role players.

Purnell's teams have been remarkably bad. It seems almost difficult to be so consistently bad, you'd think they'd manage to get 5-6 league wins some year just on the basis that someone else has an off night. Instead, Melvin and Young have a combined 6 wins in 3 years. Pathetic.

Maybe this recruiting class will turn it around. Garrett seems to have some real star potential and if Hamilton can slim down he was once a highly regarded recruit. But will they be ready to help lift DePaul out of the cellar? I'm not convinced. That program has problems that start well above Purnell's head, and until they fix things at the top, I don't expect them to turn it around.

EDIT: I have to imagine Alexander would help, but even if he does go there, it's still a team game. He might help them win a few, but I'm not convinced even his presence makes them a NCAA team.

Melvin and Young are good but their stats are exageratted. Purnell runs the offense completely through the two of them. Also, when you are the best on a bad team, its easy to get gaudy stats.

That being said, they are still two great players and I do agree that Depaul should have been able to put something better together in the past few years.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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ZiggysFryBoy

just a hunch, but Alexander to DPU=probation in 2-3 years for the Demons.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on October 30, 2013, 10:39:02 PM
just a hunch, but Alexander to DPU=probation in 2-3 years for the Demons.

I've never smelled anything foul in Purnell's administration (besides their play). And some kids just want to stay close to home.
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Dawson Rental

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on October 30, 2013, 10:39:02 PM
just a hunch, but Alexander to DPU=probation in 2-3 years for the Demons.

That's not been their MO.  Something's a little strange regarding Alexander's recruitment.  Cancelling the Michigan State visit seems to imply he wants to be close to home.  But, MU is a lot closer to home than Illinois, and I can't remember him ever being mentioned with us, although Okafor was early on.

Very highly ranked without the expected level of interest from the blue bloods. Odd.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Pakuni

Quote from: LittleMurs on October 30, 2013, 10:49:06 PM
That's not been their MO.  Something's a little strange regarding Alexander's recruitment.  Cancelling the Michigan State visit seems to imply he wants to be close to home.  But, MU is a lot closer to home than Illinois, and I can't remember him ever being mentioned with us, although Okafor was early on.

Very highly ranked without the expected level of interest from the blue bloods. Odd.

There's nothing odd about his Illinois interest/lean. Illinois has always done well with in-state kids, even under Weber (Brandon Paul, DJ Richardson, Jereme Richmond were all very highly rated), and Groce is an excellent recruiter.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Pakuni on October 31, 2013, 07:54:48 AM
There's nothing odd about his Illinois interest/lean. Illinois has always done well with in-state kids, even under Weber (Brandon Paul, DJ Richardson, Jereme Richmond were all very highly rated), and Groce is an excellent recruiter.

I didn't find anything strange about Illinois being involved, I was thinking more along the lines of them not having more competition, like really intense competition given Alexander's ranking.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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Quote from: Pakuni on October 31, 2013, 07:54:48 AM
There's nothing odd about his Illinois interest/lean. Illinois has always done well with in-state kids, even under Weber (Brandon Paul, DJ Richardson, Jereme Richmond were all very highly rated), and Groce is an excellent recruiter.

Groce will stop at nothing to get the talent, and he has the backing to do whatever is necessary to get those kids down into Champaign-Manure-Urbana.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: PTM on October 31, 2013, 11:08:32 AM
Groce will stop at nothing to get the talent, and he has the backing to do whatever necessary to get those kids down into Champaign-Manure-Urbana.

Illinois is no where close to being a dirty program.

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Quote from: esard2011 on October 31, 2013, 11:27:37 AM
Illinois is no where close to being a dirty program.

I was making fun of Tim Beckman's 'WIN' mantra: Whatever Is Necessary, Today.

Some people might get the reference.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: PTM on October 31, 2013, 11:30:04 AM
I was making fun of Tim Beckman's 'WIN' mantra: Whatever Is Necessary, Today.

Some people might get the reference.

Sorry, I have been really behind lately on the references.

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Quote from: esard2011 on October 31, 2013, 11:32:12 AM
Sorry, I have been really behind lately on the references.

It's a little out there.

swoopem

Bill Self was in Chicago yesterday visiting both Alexander and Okafor. My guess is Cliff goes to Kansas
Bring back FFP!!!

LAZER

Quote from: swoopem on October 31, 2013, 11:55:56 AM
Bill Self was in Chicago yesterday visiting both Alexander and Okafor. My guess is Cliff goes to Kansas

Self was in town for Okafor who is his primary target right now.  If Okafor ends up at KU, Alexander won't be following him.

swoopem

Quote from: LAZER on October 31, 2013, 12:08:48 PM
Self was in town for Okafor who is his primary target right now.  If Okafor ends up at KU, Alexander won't be following him.

He saw both guys and according to "experts" Okafor and Tyus Jones are both going to Duke. That leaves Cliff with KU all to himself. 
Bring back FFP!!!

bilsu

Quote from: swoopem on October 31, 2013, 02:05:33 PM
He saw both guys and according to "experts" Okafor and Tyus Jones are both going to Duke. That leaves Cliff with KU all to himself. 
Duke will be really screwed if Okafor and Jones do not go there. I think they had Looney, but stopped paying attention to him while they were chasing after these two players.

LAZER

Quote from: swoopem on October 31, 2013, 02:05:33 PM
He saw both guys and according to "experts" Okafor and Tyus Jones are both going to Duke. That leaves Cliff with KU all to himself. 

We'll see what happens with Jones/Okafor, far from a lock to Duke.  Lots of people saying KU is in the lead now.  If those two head to KU, Illinois will be in real good shape for Alexander.

Pakuni

Xavier got a commitment this weekend from 2014 top 50 SF Trevon Bluiett.


JWags85

Quote from: bilsu on October 31, 2013, 02:26:10 PM
Duke will be really screwed if Okafor and Jones do not go there.

That's some pretty fantastic hyperbole.

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Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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LAZER

Quote from: JWags85 on November 04, 2013, 09:52:55 AM
That's some pretty fantastic hyperbole.

In the context of the '14 recruiting class, it's not far off.

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