New Conference so far not good for recruiting

[ChicosBailBonds]

L.J. Peak put on a South Carolina hat at first and then threw it.  I understand he's a kid just enjoying the moment but I probably wouldn't find it funny if I was a South Carolina fan.

http://zagsblog.com/georgetown/l-j-peak-fakes-out-fans-before-pledging-to-georgetown/

They have press conferences for the 82nd ranked player......no wonder there are so many prima donna high school kids out there. 

[keefe]

My recollection of the "fight" was that both came away bruised.  Sutton said something about Popeye's wife, Cindy, which is not a cool thing to do and Garvey went after him.  I'm not backing either, that's just my memory from growing up out here.  Personally, I liked Steve Yeager, nephew of Chuck Yeager whom I sure you have a fondness for in your pilot heart.

I liked Davey Lopes but then I was a second baseman. My dad was a two star F-4/F-15 Driver and disciple of Robin Olds. He met Yeager a few times but never knew him. The TPS guys at Edwards are in their own privileged best-of-the-best universe. Rumor has it that upon selection to TPS one undergoes a surgical procedure that removes any and all malodorous scent from your fecal matter.

I know a couple guys who went to TPS. The main difference between today and Yeager's era is that the 1946 generation was pushing the far outer edge of a completely unknown envelope. The were going higher, faster, and farther on a daily basis. Problem for them is that the USAF values team, conformity, procedure - attributes that inhibit success as a Test Pilot. Because of that cultural construct the TPS guys were never considered for the newly established space program. The USAF and USN wanted Company Men with movie star looks.

The injustice was chronicled by Tom Wolfe in The Right Stuff. Best line from the movie is after Yeager set the world air breather altitude record in an F-104 then endured an 80,000' flat spin before punching out is spotted walking across the floor of the Mojave Desert. The NCO driving the crash truck cries out, "Look! It's a man!" Yeager's long time wingman, Col. Bud "Triple Ace" Anderson replies, "You're Goddam right that's a man!"

And yes, fighter pilots chew Beeman's.  

[hoyasincebirth]

They have press conferences for the 82nd ranked player......no wonder there are so many prima donna high school kids out there. 

Hey he's 63rd on scout show some respect

that's 3 top 100 recruits for the Hoyas based on the scout rankings. Which are clearly superior since they have the highest rankings for all 3 hoya recruits.

[Lennys Tap]

Hey he's 63rd on scout show some respect

that's 3 top 100 recruits for the Hoyas based on the scout rankings. Which are clearly superior since they have the highest rankings for all 3 hoya recruits.

As stated elsewhere, I've seen the kid play a few times and came away impressed. Think you've got a good one in Peak.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

They have press conferences for the 82nd ranked player......no wonder there are so many prima donna high school kids out there. 

While I agree that there are many prima donnas out there....I don't think a press conference for 82nd is unwarranted. Its easy to forget that there are literally thousands of young men competing for scholarships at all levels. To be top 100 of that number is a huge achievement

[Rockmic87]

They have press conferences for the 82nd ranked player......no wonder there are so many prima donna high school kids out there. 

I find it very reasonable for a top 100 player to have a press conference. So basically a majority of the players on this MU squad should not have been allowed to have a press conference?

[Silkk the Shaka]

I find it very reasonable for a top 100 player to have a press conference. So basically a majority of the players on this MU squad should not have been allowed to have a press conference?

Gotta be top 50 to hold a press conference. Otherwise it just looks gauche.

[bilsu]

L.J. Peak put on a South Carolina hat at first and then threw it.  I understand he's a kid just enjoying the moment but I probably wouldn't find it funny if I was a South Carolina fan.

http://zagsblog.com/georgetown/l-j-peak-fakes-out-fans-before-pledging-to-georgetown/

Seems like he has the same kind of sense of humor as some of the posters here have.

[keefe]

Seems like he has the same kind of sense of humor as some of the posters here have.

[hoyasincebirth]

actually apparently he's 54th on ESPN's rankings. So I guess he's 4 spots away from deserving a press conference. 

[Silkk the Shaka]

actually apparently he's 54th on ESPN's rankings. So I guess he's 4 spots away from deserving a press conference. 

Sorry bud, doesn't even count as a recruiting win for the conference.

[ChicosBailBonds]

To me having press conferences and such for kids of that level only adds to the epidemic in transfers.  These kids are coddled from an early age, told how great they are, have the TV cameras in front of them so they can tell the world (50 year old alums) they are coming to their school.  When they arrive on campus and are actually required to work and not get by just on their athleticism, a demanding coach, etc....no wonder why these kids want to transfer at such a high rate.  They come in with an inflated self-worth, they don't get the minutes that correspond with what they believe is their rightful slot and they become disillusioned.  It's a part of the pumping we do to these kids.

Not everyone, of course.  I would love to see this throttled down, but I know that is never going to happen.  If anything it will continue to go the other way.

[Galway Eagle]

Sorry--didn't mean to ignore you--your message just got lost in all of Pakuni's lies and misrrepresentations.

I simply don't recall Maymon as one of Buzz' success stories.  Feel free to respectfully disagree if you want--but you asked why I didn't consider him, and that's my answer.

Keep in mind that this is in reponse to an innocuous post where I provided a recruiting analysis of the 2014 top 50 for the league.  Someone asked why I choce the top 50 (insinuating that there was some nefarious reason), and I gave them the honest answer--my observation is that we haven't had a lot of success outside the top 50 HS players. 

I guess there's no satisfying the haters, who seem more bent on personal attacks than actual discussion (unless I 100% agree with them).

12 pts 8 reb in 28min a game when he's only had two seasons under his belt clearly shows talent.  Granted Buzz couldn't hang onto that talent but you have to admit that it is talent none the less.  

[Rockmic87]

Gotta be top 50 to hold a press conference. Otherwise it just looks gauche.

Given that everyone tries to play basketball, dreams of playing basketball, and aspires to play basketball at the D1 level, if you are a top 100 player, you definitely have the right to hold a press conference.

[keefe]

Given that everyone tries to play basketball, dreams of playing basketball, and aspires to play basketball at the D1 level, if you are a top 100 player, you definitely have the right to hold a press conference.

As the signing seasons pass these run the risk of being even further trivialized into banality

[Pakuni]

So, maybe the new conference isn't as bad at recruiting as some want to claim.

@EvanDanielsFOX: The new Big East currently has more top 100 commitments than every league, except the ACC.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Given that everyone tries to play basketball, dreams of playing basketball, and aspires to play basketball at the D1 level, if you are a top 100 player, you definitely have the right to hold a press conference.

'twas just a dig at Equalizer's creatively selective arguing.  I agree with you.

[Silkk the Shaka]

So, maybe the new conference isn't as bad at recruiting as some want to claim.

@EvanDanielsFOX: The new Big East currently has more top 100 commitments than every league, except the ACC.

Yeah Big East has been killing it.  All the knee-jerk negative nancies looking stupid as usual.

[muwarrior69]

So, maybe the new conference isn't as bad at recruiting as some want to claim.

@EvanDanielsFOX: The new Big East currently has more top 100 commitments than every league, except the ACC.

"@BSnowScout: As of Sep 20, four/five star commits by conference ACC (17), Big East (13), B1G/Pac 12 (11), SEC (9), American (5), Big XII (2)"

[GGGG]

"@BSnowScout: As of Sep 20, four/five star commits by conference ACC (17), Big East (13), B1G/Pac 12 (11), SEC (9), American (5), Big XII (2)"

Now I know that is very likely to change since just a handful of the uncommitted 2014s are still considering BE schools (Ahmed Hill being one), but I think this is clearly a sign that the NBE chicken-littles were wrong...again.

[Dawson Rental]

"@BSnowScout: As of Sep 20, four/five star commits by conference ACC (17), Big East (13), B1G/Pac 12 (11), SEC (9), American (5), Big XII (2)"

The American will be hurting quite a bit in these rankings next year after Louisville moves onto the ACC.  Do they have three of the five?

[Pakuni]

"@BSnowScout: As of Sep 20, four/five star commits by conference ACC (17), Big East (13), B1G/Pac 12 (11), SEC (9), American (5), Big XII (2)"

And to put the numbers further in perspective:

NBE - 13 for 10 schools  (1.3 per)
ACC - 17 for 15 schools (1.2 per)
Big 10/Pac 12 - 11 for 12 schools (.92 per)
SEC - 9 for 14 schools (.64 per)

[bilsu]

"@BSnowScout: As of Sep 20, four/five star commits by conference ACC (17), Big East (13), B1G/Pac 12 (11), SEC (9), American (5), Big XII (2)"

Big East also only has 10 teams so 13 is an average of 1.3 per team.

[muwarrior69]

The American will be hurting quite a bit in these rankings next year after Louisville moves onto the ACC.  Do they have three of the five?

I believe Duke, UNC and Syracuse got the bulk of those recruits for the ACC.

[Atticus]

There are still a lot of top 25 players that have not committed. I'm guessing UK lands a few...maybe Florida, too.

All of those players have the potential to be difference makers. Isn't that what is most important?