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Lennys Tap

He's a goof but that judge is wound a little tight.

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MerrittsMustache

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 11, 2013, 09:55:30 AM
He's a goof but that judge is wound a little tight.

It's doubtful he stays in jail for the full 30 days. More likely that the judge will release him in under a week and hope he learned his lesson - wear a suit, act contrite and don't screw around.

ZiggysFryBoy

Mark Grace just got out of one of Sheriff Joe's tent cities in AZ for a DUI conviction.

Groin_pull

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 11, 2013, 09:55:30 AM
He's a goof but that judge is wound a little tight.

No, that judge is 100% correct. You're in a courtroom....show some respect and act like an adult. I know 99.9% of pro jocks believe the world revolves around them...but that ain't the case this time.

Enjoy your 30 days, dumb shi*.

🏀

Got probation for headbutting a woman and was in court for failing to meet his PO.

Pats his lawyer on the ass and that gets him 30 days.

Butt pat > Headbutt woman

Benny B

Quote from: PTM on June 11, 2013, 01:20:58 PM
Got probation for headbutting a woman and was in court for failing to meet his PO.

Pats his lawyer on the ass and that gets him 30 days.

Butt pat > Headbutt woman

Your logic is quite the stretch... I would be interested in hearing what the 'woman' had to say (or didn't say) during his trial before I jump to any conclusions on the original sentence.

Though just like the NFL, even though the judge erred on the original call, at least she got it right upon review.  Too bad for Ocho that he was the one who threw the red flag.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

reinko

Quote from: Groin_pull on June 11, 2013, 01:16:58 PM
No, that judge is 100% correct. You're in a courtroom....show some respect and act like an adult. I know 99.9% of pro jocks believe the world revolves around them...but that ain't the case this time.

Enjoy your 30 days, dumb shi*.

I am no lawyer, but aren't judges suppose to use the law to inform sentencing?  It sounds like she did, then CJ did something dumb, and disrespectful, and that changed her mind, not what he actually plead too.  So in actuality, he got 30 days in jail for being an idiot, not for pleading to assault.  That ain't right in my book.  He apologized, and if you listen fully, I think he truly was sorry and didn't smack his lawyer to show up the judge or anything.  Again, I am not in his head, or in hers. 

Read some folks are trying to compare him this to this girl, http://gawker.com/5981834/teen-sentenced-to-30-days-in-jail-after-flipping-off-judge-during-bond-hearing  Flipping off a judge, cursing, completely aloof, not sorry...think they are completely different.

CJ is still an idiot, and should be given a sentence for what he did and/or pled too, not for a moment of infancy/idiocy with his lawyer.

Ant

Quote from: reinko on June 11, 2013, 02:49:47 PM
I am no lawyer, but aren't judges suppose to use the law to inform sentencing?  It sounds like she did, then CJ did something dumb, and disrespectful, and that changed her mind, not what he actually plead too.  So in actuality, he got 30 days in jail for being an idiot, not for pleading to assault.  That ain't right in my book.  He apologized, and if you listen fully, I think he truly was sorry and didn't smack his lawyer to show up the judge or anything.  Again, I am not in his head, or in hers. 

Read some folks are trying to compare him this to this girl, http://gawker.com/5981834/teen-sentenced-to-30-days-in-jail-after-flipping-off-judge-during-bond-hearing  Flipping off a judge, cursing, completely aloof, not sorry...think they are completely different.

CJ is still an idiot, and should be given a sentence for what he did and/or pled too, not for a moment of infancy/idiocy with his lawyer.


I think she would be able to give him time for being in contempt of court if she had to justify it. Sometimes you have to know when to just stand there and do as your told and this is apparently one of those times.

Doubt he will serve much of the sentence though.

Groin_pull

Quote from: reinko on June 11, 2013, 02:49:47 PM
I am no lawyer, but aren't judges suppose to use the law to inform sentencing?  It sounds like she did, then CJ did something dumb, and disrespectful, and that changed her mind, not what he actually plead too.  So in actuality, he got 30 days in jail for being an idiot, not for pleading to assault.  That ain't right in my book.  He apologized, and if you listen fully, I think he truly was sorry and didn't smack his lawyer to show up the judge or anything.  Again, I am not in his head, or in hers. 

Read some folks are trying to compare him this to this girl, http://gawker.com/5981834/teen-sentenced-to-30-days-in-jail-after-flipping-off-judge-during-bond-hearing  Flipping off a judge, cursing, completely aloof, not sorry...think they are completely different.

CJ is still an idiot, and should be given a sentence for what he did and/or pled too, not for a moment of infancy/idiocy with his lawyer.


I'm tired of people thinking a quick apology wipes the slate clean. Too bad. It's about time more people started paying the price for their stupid actions. An apology doesn't automatically make everything right. Now that moron has 30 days to think about it. Bet he doesn't do it again.

ChitownSpaceForRent

I really dont see the problem with the butt tap. I just dont. If she was sending him to jail for the plea fine, but I dont think the butt tap was rude.

Groin_pull

Quote from: esard2011 on June 11, 2013, 04:28:42 PM
I really dont see the problem with the butt tap. I just dont. If she was sending him to jail for the plea fine, but I dont think the butt tap was rude.

Sadly, you're not alone. I must be a dinosaur. I strongly feel that idiotic behavior has no business in a courtroom.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: Groin_pull on June 11, 2013, 04:01:10 PM
I'm tired of people thinking a quick apology wipes the slate clean. Too bad. It's about time more people started paying the price for their stupid actions. An apology doesn't automatically make everything right. Now that moron has 30 days to think about it. Bet he doesn't do it again.

I don't know that we need to use 30 days of tax payer money to prove that point.

Couldn't she just fine him? Or give him 2 nights in jail?

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on June 11, 2013, 04:59:40 PM
I don't know that we need to use 30 days of tax payer money to prove that point.

Couldn't she just fine him? Or give him 2 nights in jail?


I agree. Idiotic behavior by Ochocinco, even more idiotic behavior by the judge.

keefe

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 11, 2013, 08:59:38 PM
I agree. Idiotic behavior by Ochocinco, even more idiotic behavior by the judge.

100% correct. A little power is a terrible thing.


Death on call

Spotcheck Billy

My guess is the judge wanted her 15 minutes of fame, perhaps a re-election is in her near future and she thought this would resonate with her constituents

Strokin 3s

I'm 30, I agree with groin pull though.  And I don't have a problem with "using taxpayer money" to pay for his 30 days in jail.  Look at how much coverage this has gotten.  You think anyone else is gonna slap their lawyer on the ass in a courtroom? 

P.S. not to get political, but I would not ascribe myself as someone who is normally ok with with using taxpayer money, however, i think the benefit of informing a populous of reasonable, professional behavior makes sense here.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: Strokin 3s on June 12, 2013, 09:01:16 AM
I'm 30, I agree with groin pull though.  And I don't have a problem with "using taxpayer money" to pay for his 30 days in jail.  Look at how much coverage this has gotten.  You think anyone else is gonna slap their lawyer on the ass in a courtroom? 

P.S. not to get political, but I would not ascribe myself as someone who is normally ok with with using taxpayer money, however, i think the benefit of informing a populous of reasonable, professional behavior makes sense here.

I'm not a lawyer, and I've spent ZERO time in a courtroom.

So, honest question:

Are courtroom antics so out of control that they need to make an example out of chad johnson to prevent future issues with other defendants?

If it's really a problem, then I guess I'm cool with the additional cost of housing CJ, and/or the additional plea bargain.

If it's not a big problem, then again, I'll say that this is a waste of resources.

Strokin 3s

Not a lawyer either, and my honest answer is just a little sick of the way people behave in general.  I think its a slippery slope and the judge had a line and Ochocinco crossed it, good for her for standing up for her own standards. 

If it's me, I would be pretty embarassed about the original action that lead to me being in court and acting contrite, not slapping my lawyer on the ass.

tower912

#22
Tax dollars going to pay for the incarceration of a client patting his attorney on the butt?    Insane.  Lighten up, Frances.   I wonder if any real criminals were let out early to make space for this miscreant butt-patter. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ATWizJr

Quote from: esard2011 on June 11, 2013, 04:28:42 PM
I really dont see the problem with the butt tap. I just dont. If she was sending him to jail for the plea fine, but I dont think the butt tap was rude.
There's a time and place for everything and this wasn't it.

Strokin 3s

Quote from: tower912 on June 12, 2013, 09:22:57 AM
Tax dollars going to pay for the incarceration of a client patting his attorney on the butt?    Insane.  Lighten up, Frances.   I wonder if any real criminals were let out early to make space for this miscreant butt-patter. 

He went to jail for headbutting a woman.  It is up to the judge to accept the plea or not as is my understanding.  If someone treated your job as a joke, I doubt you would have a level of acceptance to give them a break when the time came.  Also the judge apparently said it wasn't the first time he took the proceedings less than seriously.

Really for me its just stupidity.  The judge asked him if he thought his lawyer had done a good job representing him and he responds by slapping the guys ass?  You reap what you sew.

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