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LAMUfan

well they added the rainbow back, they were still the warriors.  so that means we can be the rainbows right?  cool

MU8285

Golden Warriers, seems pretty obvious.   :D

muhoops1

Won't Jeff Gordon and Hendrix Motorsports be upset that Hawaii stole their nickname?

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MU_Iceman

Quote from: MU8285 on May 15, 2013, 03:26:34 PM
Golden Warriers, seems pretty obvious.   :D

During all that "Gold" / name change nonsense I thought a reasonable compromise would be "War Eagles"

What a PR nightmare that shitshow was!

The Love House

Following Hawaii's example of incorporating all previous nicknames into one, clearly we need to change our names to "the Hilltopper Eagles Golden Warrior Avalanche".

Blue Horseshoe

Quote from: MU_Iceman on May 16, 2013, 10:34:49 AM
During all that "Gold" / name change nonsense I thought a reasonable compromise would be "War Eagles"

That is incredibly bad ass, but unfortunately already has a unique niche at Auburn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Eagle

In a different context, it makes me think of a MC patch. I don't think the Jesuits would get behind the 1% mentality.



Hards Alumni

Quote from: Blue Horseshoe on May 16, 2013, 11:12:38 AM
That is incredibly bad ass, but unfortunately already has a unique niche at Auburn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Eagle

In a different context, it makes me think of a MC patch. I don't think the Jesuits would get behind the 1% mentality.




To build on that, I think they would probably shy away from anything with the word "War" in it.  Personally, I love the name Warriors, but I am surprised that a Jesuit University even considered "Warrior" as a nickname because all Jesus preached was peace.

keefe

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 16, 2013, 11:30:42 AM
To build on that, I think they would probably shy away from anything with the word "War" in it.  Personally, I love the name Warriors, but I am surprised that a Jesuit University even considered "Warrior" as a nickname because all Jesus preached was peace.

But the Vatican has sponsored significant intellectual investigation into the concept of Jus in bello or the Just War. Augustine wrote that, "The commandment forbidding killing is not broken by those who wage war on the authority of God."

Thomas Aquinas, writing in the age of emergent nation states, outlined three principles upon which a polity might wage war while adhering to Church doctrine:

- War must be for a good, proper, and just purpose. It must never be for self-gain, aggrandizement, or enrichment.
- War must be conducted, undertaken, and waged by a properly instituted competent authority which governs in a state of grace.
- The central motive of war must always be peace.

As a warrior guided by ethical imperatives, moral sanction of the legitimacy to employ lethal force to counter the inherent chaos and violence of the international arena is an essential warrant. And Jus in bello further governs the use of lethal force according to strict principles of Necessity, Distinction, and Proportion. These are lessons seared into the brain of every Second Lieutenant who dreams of flying an F 16 into Harms' Way. The lessons are reinforced at Squadron Officer School, Air Command and Staff College, and Air War College.

The Church has played a central role in developing what is a foundational tenet for international governance of the behavior of states. That thinking has served as the basis for today's Law of Armed Conflict. The LOAC guides the decision-making and actions of US service personnel engaged in lethal force engagements. Because of my studies at Georgetown Prep and Marquette I applied what I learned from Augustine's City of God and Aquinas' Summa Theologica while mission planning in the hangar and operating outside the wire. I fervently pray that Jesuitical perspective made me a better warrior.



Death on call

Hards Alumni

Quote from: keefe on May 16, 2013, 06:48:29 PM
But the Vatican has sponsored significant intellectual investigation into the concept of Jus in bello or the Just War. Augustine wrote that, "The commandment forbidding killing is not broken by those who wage war on the authority of God."

Thomas Aquinas, writing in the age of emergent nation states, outlined three principles upon which a polity might wage war while adhering to Church doctrine:

- War must be for a good, proper, and just purpose. It must never be for self-gain, aggrandizement, or enrichment.
- War must be conducted, undertaken, and waged by a properly instituted competent authority which governs in a state of grace.
- The central motive of war must always be peace.

As a warrior guided by ethical imperatives, moral sanction of the legitimacy to employ lethal force to counter the inherent chaos and violence of the international arena is an essential warrant. And Jus in bello further governs the use of lethal force according to strict principles of Necessity, Distinction, and Proportion. These are lessons seared into the brain of every Second Lieutenant who dreams of flying an F 16 into Harms' Way. The lessons are reinforced at Squadron Officer School, Air Command and Staff College, and Air War College.

The Church has played a central role in developing what is a foundational tenet for international governance of the behavior of states. That thinking has served as the basis for today's Law of Armed Conflict. The LOAC guides the decision-making and actions of US service personnel engaged in lethal force engagements. Because of my studies at Georgetown Prep and Marquette I applied what I learned from Augustine's City of God and Aquinas' Summa Theologica while mission planning in the hangar and operating outside the wire. I fervently pray that Jesuitical perspective made me a better warrior.



And I'm just saying Jesus would probably disagree.

keefe

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 16, 2013, 08:42:19 PM
And I'm just saying Jesus would probably disagree.

First of all, you have no idea what Jesus would say. But we do know what Augustine and Aquinas said about it and their writings serve as the basis for Jus in Bello. I guess you know better than they. Assuming of course you have read anything by them.

If it were a perfect world we wouldn't need a Marine Corps. Fact is it is a dangerous, violent world filled with malicious intent. And if it were not for brave young men willing to stand up to evil we would all be speaking German. Or Japanese. Or Russian. You are entitled to believe what you will. All I ask is that you thank a veteran for giving you that privilege.

Some men run to the sound of danger while others flee. Thank God those brave men who are willing to confront the execrable have an ethical code which guides their actions.


Death on call

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: keefe on May 16, 2013, 10:50:36 PM
First of all, you have no idea what Jesus would say. But we do know what Augustine and Aquinas said about it and their writings serve as the basis for Jus in Bello. I guess you know better than they. Assuming of course you have read anything by them.

If it were a perfect world we wouldn't need a Marine Corps. Fact is it is a dangerous, violent world filled with malicious intent. And if it were not for brave young men willing to stand up to evil we would all be speaking German. Or Japanese. Or Russian. You are entitled to believe what you will. All I ask is that you thank a veteran for giving you that privilege.

Some men run to the sound of danger while others flee. Thank God those brave men who are willing to confront the execrable have an ethical code which guides their actions.

Or you can have a CinC that willfully violates the USMC code by making 2 young Marines hold an umbrella in direct violation of their uniform protocol.

keefe

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 16, 2013, 11:26:05 PM
Or you can have a CinC that willfully violates the USMC code by making 2 young Marines hold an umbrella in direct violation of their uniform protocol.

I share your outrage. Proud warriors reduced to yard jockeys.

Thank God they had St Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologica to dictate proportionality and restraint in their response.


Death on call

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: keefe on May 16, 2013, 11:37:03 PM
I share your outrage. Proud warriors reduced to yard jockeys.

Thank God they had St Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologica to dictate proportionality and restraint in their response.

the sad thing is that those 2 Marines will accept whatever discipline is doled out to them by the corps, and will continue to hold their heads high as only a Marine could do.

314warrior

Quote from: keefe on May 16, 2013, 10:50:36 PM
First of all, you have no idea what Jesus would say. But we do know what Augustine and Aquinas said about it and their writings serve as the basis for Jus in Bello. I guess you know better than they. Assuming of course you have read anything by them.

If it were a perfect world we wouldn't need a Marine Corps. Fact is it is a dangerous, violent world filled with malicious intent. And if it were not for brave young men willing to stand up to evil we would all be speaking German. Or Japanese. Or Russian. You are entitled to believe what you will. All I ask is that you thank a veteran for giving you that privilege.

Some men run to the sound of danger while others flee. Thank God those brave men who are willing to confront the execrable have an ethical code which guides their actions.

Fixed

Hards Alumni

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Quote from: keefe on May 16, 2013, 10:50:36 PM
First of all, you have no idea what Jesus would say. But we do know what Augustine and Aquinas said about it and their writings serve as the basis for Jus in Bello. I guess you know better than they. Assuming of course you have read anything by them.

If it were a perfect world we wouldn't need a Marine Corps. Fact is it is a dangerous, violent world filled with malicious intent. And if it were not for brave young men willing to stand up to evil we would all be speaking German. Or Japanese. Or Russian. You are entitled to believe what you will. All I ask is that you thank a veteran for giving you that privilege.

Some men run to the sound of danger while others flee. Thank God those brave men who are willing to confront the execrable have an ethical code which guides their actions.

Nevermind.  Not the place.

MU Fan in Connecticut

There's the Bart Simpson theory of war.
"There are no good wars with the following exceptions: the American Revolution, World War II & the Star Wars Trilogy."

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 16, 2013, 11:26:05 PM
Or you can have a CinC that willfully violates the USMC code by making 2 young Marines hold an umbrella in direct violation of their uniform protocol.
ok...so I have to ask.  Why can't a marine use an umbrella?

The Love House

Quote from: keefe on May 16, 2013, 06:48:29 PM
But the Vatican has sponsored significant intellectual investigation into the concept of Jus in bello or the Just War. Augustine wrote that, "The commandment forbidding killing is not broken by those who wage war on the authority of God."

Thomas Aquinas, writing in the age of emergent nation states, outlined three principles upon which a polity might wage war while adhering to Church doctrine:

- War must be for a good, proper, and just purpose. It must never be for self-gain, aggrandizement, or enrichment.
- War must be conducted, undertaken, and waged by a properly instituted competent authority which governs in a state of grace.
- The central motive of war must always be peace.

As a warrior guided by ethical imperatives, moral sanction of the legitimacy to employ lethal force to counter the inherent chaos and violence of the international arena is an essential warrant. And Jus in bello further governs the use of lethal force according to strict principles of Necessity, Distinction, and Proportion. These are lessons seared into the brain of every Second Lieutenant who dreams of flying an F 16 into Harms' Way. The lessons are reinforced at Squadron Officer School, Air Command and Staff College, and Air War College.

The Church has played a central role in developing what is a foundational tenet for international governance of the behavior of states. That thinking has served as the basis for today's Law of Armed Conflict. The LOAC guides the decision-making and actions of US service personnel engaged in lethal force engagements. Because of my studies at Georgetown Prep and Marquette I applied what I learned from Augustine's City of God and Aquinas' Summa Theologica while mission planning in the hangar and operating outside the wire. I fervently pray that Jesuitical perspective made me a better warrior.



I love talkin' hoops!! Go Marquette!!

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on May 17, 2013, 07:39:38 AM
ok...so I have to ask.  Why can't a marine use an umbrella?

It's in the Marine uniform code. Male Marines may not carry an umbrella while in uniform.

Benny B

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 17, 2013, 09:21:32 AM
It's in the Marine uniform code. Male Marines may not carry an umbrella while in uniform.

What about female Marines?
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

avid1010

Quote from: keefe on May 16, 2013, 06:48:29 PM
But the Vatican has sponsored significant intellectual investigation into the concept of Jus in bello or the Just War. Augustine wrote that, "The commandment forbidding killing is not broken by those who wage war on the authority of God."

Thomas Aquinas, writing in the age of emergent nation states, outlined three principles upon which a polity might wage war while adhering to Church doctrine:

- War must be for a good, proper, and just purpose. It must never be for self-gain, aggrandizement, or enrichment.
- War must be conducted, undertaken, and waged by a properly instituted competent authority which governs in a state of grace.
- The central motive of war must always be peace.

As a warrior guided by ethical imperatives, moral sanction of the legitimacy to employ lethal force to counter the inherent chaos and violence of the international arena is an essential warrant. And Jus in bello further governs the use of lethal force according to strict principles of Necessity, Distinction, and Proportion. These are lessons seared into the brain of every Second Lieutenant who dreams of flying an F 16 into Harms' Way. The lessons are reinforced at Squadron Officer School, Air Command and Staff College, and Air War College.

The Church has played a central role in developing what is a foundational tenet for international governance of the behavior of states. That thinking has served as the basis for today's Law of Armed Conflict. The LOAC guides the decision-making and actions of US service personnel engaged in lethal force engagements. Because of my studies at Georgetown Prep and Marquette I applied what I learned from Augustine's City of God and Aquinas' Summa Theologica while mission planning in the hangar and operating outside the wire. I fervently pray that Jesuitical perspective made me a better warrior.
we fight for resources and power (usually through the lens of religion)...rarely for peace, rarely for reasons i believe my God would condone.  

the world is a violent and scary place, which is what we made of it, in the name of religion.

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