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BCHoopster

Quote from: Terror Skink on May 20, 2013, 03:36:41 PM

Marquette wasn't interested in Drew Crawford.

Never a inquiry?  It was mentioned somewhere or I would not bring it up.

GGGG

It was mentioned.  MU wasn't interested.

Litehouse

Quote from: CAGASS24 on May 20, 2013, 12:53:20 PM
I guess if other people use it that way I'd be wrong, he calls Juan a rising sophomore, so at least he is consistent within the article, but if you are going to use the term rising, it seems to me to make more sense saying what they are rising from as opposed to rising to, especially since next season isn't upon us yet; unfortunately!!!!!  

Hunt has consistently been using the term "rising" incorrectly.  A rising ____ means the class he's going to be next year.  So Juan is a rising Junior and Jake is a rising Senior.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: BCHoopster on May 20, 2013, 03:33:19 PM
Drew Crawford or any one of a myriad of transfer possibilities we ultimately passed on came, then Juan would be gone Jake Thomas would go back to walk-on status as he was brought in or leave on his own volition with MU's blessing to find a scholarship & PT elsewhere.

Sunbelt15

Dammit Ferguson, you missed out on the last scholie! Juan, welcome back dude. Let's see some improvement behind the arc.

ChicosBailBonds

Glad to see a Californian sticking it out in Milwaukee.  Stay strong Juan.

keefe

Quote from: Avenue Commons on May 20, 2013, 12:06:12 PM
I heard Odartey Blankson is coming back next year.

What section is his seat in?


Death on call

GGGG

Quote from: MU82 on May 20, 2013, 01:19:27 PM
Hmmm. Hard for me to envision, especially if Derrick Wilson and Otule also are on the floor at that time, but I guess anything's possible.

Buzz has lots of pieces to fit into the picture, which would seem to be in the nice-problem-to-have realm.


Mark Miller tweeted this afternoon that he would transition to the guard position.  This makes perfect sense to me.  He is a much better perimeter defender than interior defender.

So IMO you will see this to start the year.

*Derrick...backed up by Duane
*Todd...backed up by JJJ
*Juan...backed up by Deonte
*Jamil...backed up by Steve Taylor
*Otule/Gardner playing like they have previously

McKay can play behind Jamil and the centers, or even come in in the small forward position when they go big.

Dawson and Jake do most of the sitting.

Now of course it is never that simple.  I mean, JJJ could obviously be on the floor with Mayo when scoring is needed.  But I envision that this is roughly how it will start out.

4everwarriors

Gotta figure 1 or more of the newbies start by the start of the conference season.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

GGGG

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 20, 2013, 08:25:15 PM
Gotta figure 1 or more of the newbies start by the start of the conference season.


Yeah, I would guess that would be the case.  Hell, knowing Buzz he may start them all.  Who knows.

jsglow

Quote from: Terror Skink on May 20, 2013, 07:59:37 PM

Mark Miller tweeted this afternoon that he would transition to the guard position.  This makes perfect sense to me.  He is a much better perimeter defender than interior defender.

So IMO you will see this to start the year.

*Derrick...backed up by Duane
*Todd...backed up by JJJ
*Juan...backed up by Deonte
*Jamil...backed up by Steve Taylor
*Otule/Gardner playing like they have previously

McKay can play behind Jamil and the centers, or even come in in the small forward position when they go big.

Dawson and Jake do most of the sitting.

Now of course it is never that simple.  I mean, JJJ could obviously be on the floor with Mayo when scoring is needed.  But I envision that this is roughly how it will start out.

Interesting projection Terror.  I could be 100% wrong but I personally believe that Jamil is going to the #3 and McKay/Taylor are going to man the #4.  I'm thrilled that Juan has decided to return and believe that he'll be in rotation with Jamil and earn meaningful minutes.  But at this point, Jamil needs to be the alpha dog along with the steady leadership at the post with Chris/DG.  And to do that he needs to start ahead of Juan.

I think the good news is this has the potential to take pressure off the Frosh at the #2 and especially #3 position.  Much better to bring them along somewhat more slowly.  I guess the wild card in this is McKay.  Much of my guess is envisioning him as an immediate 25 minute starter with Steve grabbing the other 15.  

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Quote from: jsglow on May 20, 2013, 08:31:28 PM
Interesting projection Terror.  I could be 100% wrong but I personally believe that Jamil is going to the #3 and McKay/Taylor are going to man the #4.  I'm thrilled that Juan has decided to return and believe that he'll be in rotation with Jamil and earn meaningful minutes.  But at this point, Jamil needs to be the alpha dog along with the steady leadership at the post with Chris/DG.  And to do that he needs to start ahead of Juan.

I think the good news is this has the potential to take pressure off the Frosh at the #2 and especially #3 position.  Much better to bring them along somewhat more slowly.  I guess the wild card in this is McKay.  Much of my guess is envisioning him as an immediate 25 minute starter with Steve grabbing the other 15.  

I agree.


Derrick/Duane - Derrick starts all year, but yields minutes to Duane as the season progresses.
Todd/JJJ - JJJ takes the starting spot around early February.
Wilson/Juan - Wilson can be an NBA 3, and he'll be showcased greatly here. Juan will pick up minutes behind Jamil and the 4.
McKay/Taylor - This will be interesting.
Otule/Davante - No change here.

Blackhat

Good for Juan.   Seeing how our guys have progressed under Buzz he should have a decent chance of being fairly productive his upper class years.

BCHoopster

Quote from: Stone Cold on May 20, 2013, 09:05:03 PM
Good for Juan.   Seeing how our guys have progressed under Buzz he should have a decent chance of being fairly productive his upper class years.

I see Juan getting a chance at the 2 guard as well.  It would be pretty interesting to play zone with Wilson, Devante, Otule, Anderson and Wilson, there
is your Defensive team.  That is really long and I think Juan is very capable to do that.  I am sure with Vander leaving, it gave Juan a chance to play some
guard.

77ncaachamps

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 20, 2013, 04:55:58 PM
Glad to see a Californian sticking it out in Milwaukee.  Stay strong Juan.

Damn right.

If a Cali boy can't tough it out, then who will?
SS Marquette

forgetful

Thrilled to see him back.  I really think he can be great at MU.  Expect a large improvement next year and great things as a senior.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: BCHoopster on May 20, 2013, 09:50:03 PM
I see Juan getting a chance at the 2 guard as well.  It would be pretty interesting to play zone with Wilson, Devante, Otule, Anderson and Wilson, there
is your Defensive team.  That is really long and I think Juan is very capable to do that.  I am sure with Vander leaving, it gave Juan a chance to play some
guard.

Wouldn't be smart at all, Juan doesn't have the outside shooting or ball handling necessary for a 2 leave that to Mayo or Johnson perhaps even Wilson
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

JakeBarnes

I can imagine the internal debate went like this: "Maybe I should give Marquette another chance.  Maybe just Juan More Time." (cue Daft Punk)

And that's how Juan rejoined the team. 
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

mileskishnish72

Welcome home to the prodigal son.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: frozena pizza on May 09, 2013, 02:12:55 PM
Since he wanted to be closer to his family I always figured Cal would be the natural choice.

Quote from: LittleMurs on May 09, 2013, 02:16:19 PM
That's kind of a standard quote for anyone who went out of town and ended up not getting the PT.  How much time will he really get with his family while he's involved with Division I basketball?  It should make it easier for them to come to games, though.

I'm going with "told you so".
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

GGGG

#145
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 21, 2013, 07:46:58 AM
I'm going with "told you so".


All I am going to say is you may want to rethink bragging about this because there is more to the story.

GGGG

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on May 20, 2013, 10:59:21 PM
Wouldn't be smart at all, Juan doesn't have the outside shooting or ball handling necessary for a 2 leave that to Mayo or Johnson perhaps even Wilson


Again, people here are too caught up in the traditional positions that don't necessarily apply to Buzz's system.  I would envision that Juan will be playing the position that Lockett played last year...and Blue the year before.  Kind of a modified wing position that actually will use his talents well. 

jsglow

Quote from: Terror Skink on May 21, 2013, 08:05:03 AM

Again, people here are too caught up in the traditional positions that don't necessarily apply to Buzz's system.  I would envision that Juan will be playing the position that Lockett played last year...and Blue the year before.  Kind of a modified wing position that actually will use his talents well. 

Take a stab at the minute breakdown between Juan, McKay and Steve in your scenario.  Seems to me that for Juan to play 'Lockett' in this year's movie that Jamil would need to play a lot of #4.

GGGG

Quote from: jsglow on May 21, 2013, 09:47:09 AM
Take a stab at the minute breakdown between Juan, McKay and Steve in your scenario.  Seems to me that for Juan to play 'Lockett' in this year's movie that Jamil would need to play a lot of #4.


What I mean is that Juan will play Lockett's position....I don't mean he will get Lockett's minutes.

I think this is what you have along the front line...

Juan (3)
Jamil (primarily 4, but also 3)
Taylor (4)
McKay (4 and 5 when you want to run)
Gardner and Otule (5)

How these minutes are divided are anyone's guess.  You also have to throw Burton in there, but all the newcomers have to show how they can defend.  This is one of the reasons I am not yet sure about McKay and his role at least to start the year. 

Our incoming Juco players have come in with great acclaim, but they haven't necessarily hit the ground running immediately.  It took awhile for Dwight, Jae and JFB for instance to get used to the speed and their role.  This is why I don't see McKay starting immediately, but could very well work his way into that role eventually.  Perhaps that will come at the expense of Juan.

jsglow

Guess Buzz simply has another 'house' to build.  Part of that decision will be the #3 and #4 mix with the guys mentioned.  Nice problem to have that just got nicer with Juan's decision.  That's one of the reasons college hoops is so much fun for me.  How does one make us the best we can be by BEast and then tourney time?

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