Biggest Impact Recruit Next Year

[brewcity77]

Jameel, without a doubt. I think with Vander gone you're going to see Marquette go big a lot more often and McKay is going to be a huge beneficiary of those minutes as Jamil is able to play a 2/3 role more regularly.

I know everyone is down on Derrick Wilson, but until someone actually takes the ball from him on the court, there's no reason to expect he'll be anything other than a 20-25 mpg starter.

[GGGG]

Jameel, without a doubt. I think with Vander gone you're going to see Marquette go big a lot more often and McKay is going to be a huge beneficiary of those minutes as Jamil is able to play a 2/3 role more regularly.

I know everyone is down on Derrick Wilson, but until someone actually takes the ball from him on the court, there's no reason to expect he'll be anything other than a 20-25 mpg starter.

I agree wholeheartedly with both of these points.

The only issue might be if Steve Taylor steps up his game, limiting McKay's minutes, and another freshman shows that he can pour shots in the basket from the outside.

[Lennys Tap]

I know everyone is down on Derrick Wilson, but until someone actually takes the ball from him on the court, there's no reason to expect he'll be anything other than a 20-25 mpg starter.

Barring injury, Duane or Dawson will have to be very special to limit Derrick to less than 20-25 mpg. That said, Avid makes a good point about his free throw shooting. If it doesn't improve significantly he's a liability in crunch time.

[nyg]

Barring injury, Duane or Dawson will have to be very special to limit Derrick to less than 20-25 mpg. That said, Avid makes a good point about his free throw shooting. If it doesn't improve significantly he's a liability in crunch time.

Not just crunch time Lenny.  27% from field, 14% from three and 45% from ft.  That has to change early in the season.

[LAMUfan]

Jameel, without a doubt. I think with Vander gone you're going to see Marquette go big a lot more often and McKay is going to be a huge beneficiary of those minutes as Jamil is able to play a 2/3 role more regularly.

You think Jamil is going to be playing at the 2 sometimes?  Not sure about that, but for fun how would that line up look?  derrick, jamil, jameel, gardner and chris, that would be something to see

[Lennys Tap]

You think Jamil is going to be playing at the 2 sometimes?  Not sure about that, but for fun how would that line up look?  derrick, jamil, jameel, gardner and chris, that would be something to see

The length in that zone defense would be formidable.

[mileskishnish72]

Lots of good reasons why McKay should be the answer noted above. If Duane is weak on D, he won't get minutes out of Buzz.
If JJJ is the shooter he's cracked up to be, he might be the answer to this thread's question - Lord knows there were a few times when we needed a 3-point shooter with consistency lately.

[GGGG]

You think Jamil is going to be playing at the 2 sometimes?  Not sure about that, but for fun how would that line up look?  derrick, jamil, jameel, gardner and chris, that would be something to see

Not to speak for brew, but I think all he means is the position played by Lockett last year, and Blue the year before.  He can't play a ton of minutes there because he isn't an outside shooter by any means.

[GOO]

Jamil showed a lot and was really the only guy on the team at the end of the year that I wanted to see take a 3.  He is ready to bust out, just by playing the way he played in the later part of last year.  He will get more attention, which means a guy like JJJ can get some open looks. 

JJJ has to be the obvious candidate to contribute, IF, he can come in a shoot it from day one.  A lot of freshman have trouble adjusting to the speed and the quicker release needed.  He seems like he already has good form and a quick release, so I am hopeful that he will be able to shoot it and thus open up driving lanes from day one.

[slingkong]

The Four Horsemen

Ugh, no way. That has the stench of the Domers.

[ResidentBrown]

Ugh, no way. That has the stench of the Domers.

Well the Three Amigos had the stench of Martin Short, and no one seemed to mind.

The Four Seasons? The Four Corners? The Four Properties of Water? The Four Rules of Gun Safety? Charlotte, Carrie, Samantha, and Miranda?

[GGGG]

Well the Three Amigos had the stench of Martin Short, and no one seemed to mind.

Martin Short>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Notre Dame.

[🏀]

Well the Three Amigos had the stench of Martin Short, and no one seemed to mind.

The Four Seasons? The Four Corners? The Four Properties of Water? The Four Rules of Gun Safety? Charlotte, Carrie, Samantha, and Miranda?

This was awful until the Sex and the City reference. Wait...

[swoopem]

In an interview after Trey J signed he said that Buzz kept telling him he would be the leading scorer on the team next year. Now this could be a recruiting tactic and I'm sure it was, but from what I've heard Buzz doesn't lie to these kids.

That being said I'm going with Jameel because of experience

[MU72491]

Great topic Joe pop!

[JD]

I'm thinking Duane will be my favorite all time player at MU when all is said and done. I don't see all the hate on Derrick, remember what Vander was like his sophomore year?  Derrick will be starting all year, bank on that. *barring injury of course

What more do you want out of a pg, someone who doesn't turn the ball over and gets the offense in rhythm.  I know he's got 1/2 down, but it's very similar with De'De' and the Otule situation.  De'De' is definitely more skilled offensively, and Chris is a better defensive player.

Bold prediction: Derrick averages 10 and 6 a game this year.

[joe pop]

Duane Wilson is already one of my favorite MU players ever and he hasn't even put on a uni yet.  He has gifted athletic ability, size for the position, is seriously skilled, and a dedicated hard worker.  I'll be shocked if he doesn't thrive under Buzz.  However, your "starting" logic is flawed.  What if Derrick Wilson improves?  What if starting really is a nod to the hardest worker and best leader in practice, even if it's a token gesture?  What if Buzz likes starting defense and bringing offense off the bench (the Ox/Otule dynamic)?  What if Duane proves to be somewhat foul prone and Buzz wants him on the floor at crunch time (EWill/Crowder & Anderson/JWil)?  What if Buzz likes starting the experienced Derrick but Duane plays 28 mpg off the bench?  What if Buzz wants to use starting as a carrot/goal to keep Duane hungry?  People get so hung up on who "starts."  We went 10 deep this year.  If you can play, you'll play, and your minutes don't necessarily correlate directly to whether or not you start with Buzz.

Thats true Buzz doesnt neccesarily start the best player at the position as we saw last year.  I guess I meant who will get the majority of the PG minutes.

[joe pop]

I'm thinking Duane will be my favorite all time player at MU when all is said and done. I don't see all the hate on Derrick, remember what Vander was like his sophomore year?  Derrick will be starting all year, bank on that. *barring injury of course

What more do you want out of a pg, someone who doesn't turn the ball over and gets the offense in rhythm.  I know he's got 1/2 down, but it's very similar with De'De' and the Otule situation.  De'De' is definitely more skilled offensively, and Chris is a better defensive player.

Bold prediction: Derrick averages 10 and 6 a game this year.

Like the Gardner and Otule situation I dont like when Buzz starts defense or just a player who plays less minutes than his backup.  So i think Duane is a better player than Derrick and should start.  But Buzz is the coach and a damn good one so we'll see.

[mu35577]

I'm thinking Duane will be my favorite all time player at MU when all is said and done. I don't see all the hate on Derrick, remember what Vander was like his sophomore year?  Derrick will be starting all year, bank on that. *barring injury of course

What more do you want out of a pg, someone who doesn't turn the ball over and gets the offense in rhythm.  I know he's got 1/2 down, but it's very similar with De'De' and the Otule situation.  De'De' is definitely more skilled offensively, and Chris is a better defensive player.

Bold prediction: Derrick averages 10 and 6 a game this year.

If this happens, which is a big IF, this team has Elite 8/Final 4 all over it

[GGGG]

You don't need scoring from the point guard position, but you definitely need offense...if that makes any sense.

[77ncaachamps]

Duane needs to make an impact so he's my #1. My concern is his ability to hold up over a lengthy, physically grueling season.

Jameel is a close #2. He's got a little more experience under his belt and is probably best ready for his position.

Deonte is body ready but his adjustment to the speed of the game will be interesting to see.

JJJ...he's gonna be the best of the bunch. His ceiling is sky high but he's going to need some seasoning his first two years. I predict an explosion his junior year and star numbers his senior year.

[flash]

This has to be one of the most hyped up recruiting classes in MU history.  I hope they all turn out to be impact players.  I think Jameel will make the biggest impact right away because of his experience.  You can never have too many big men. 

[MU82]

You don't need scoring from the point guard position, but you definitely need offense...if that makes any sense.

Oodles of sense, Skinkmeister!

The PG has to orchestrate the offense, settle things down when things are getting hairy, make others around him better.

Still, it definitely helps when a PG can create for himself at times, and most excellent teams have a PG who can knock down open Js.

And for goodness sake, the PG has to make more than 46% of his FTs ... or else the coach can't afford to have him on the floor at the very time he needs a good PG the most.

[Dreadman24]

Duane needs to make an impact so he's my #1. My concern is his ability to hold up over a lengthy, physically grueling season.

Jameel is a close #2. He's got a little more experience under his belt and is probably best ready for his position.

Deonte is body ready but his adjustment to the speed of the game will be interesting to see.

JJJ...he's gonna be the best of the bunch. His ceiling is sky high but he's going to need some seasoning his first two years. I predict an explosion his junior year and star numbers his senior year.

JJJ will be off to the NBA by his sophomore year. Book it!

[Golden Avalanche]

Again, Du. Wilson will be a fucking star in college basketball.