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ChicosBailBonds

#25
That's why I said 40's, 50's, 60's and such...I wasn't limiting to just those decades.  Many of the values from then aren't worth carrying on, but many many are.  The "greatest generation" didn't come from the previous 20 years as a gentle reminder.

I don't know if your studies are accurate, I assume they are...then again many people today don't even bother to get married so thus they can't get divorced.  I'm assuming your statement came from Hurley's column in the NY Times a few years ago.  I've won many a beer in bets over the years on the divorce rate in this country.  People assume it is 50% because the media has blabbered this for so damn long that it has become truth...that article helped confirm it's not 50%.

However, in reading the whole article you also need to acknowledge that Kreider's Census survey has changed considerably each time he runs it, so the blanket 1955 statement isn't "ironclad" as it were.

Here's a counter argument.

In the ABOLITION OF MARRIAGE, the author states "The marriage rate has fallen nearly 30% since 1970 and the divorce rate has increased about 40%."

http://www.divorcereform.org/rates.html#anchor1223885

I hope the kids and everyone involved does ok.  It's a shame for everyone involved.  I'm one of those guys that likes to see marriage work, vows honored, kids raised in a two parent home.  I get bummed when these things don't work out.  It happens.  People change, people grow apart, it's part of life. 

RawdogDX

Quote from: Toughmover1016 on September 18, 2007, 09:42:20 PM
South Beach+Fame+Money=Divorce


And as i pointed out before Chicago + No Fame + Mid Class + Getting married young because you knocked up your highschool GF = Divorce.
Or for that matter
Seattle + No Fame + Lowwer Class + Getting married young because you knocked up your highschool GF = Divorce.
Or
Dallas + Little Fame(let's say local weatherman) + Upper Mid Class + Getting married young because you knocked up your highschool GF = Divorce.

It was a high risk marriage, nothing that happened later on changed that.

Henry Sugar

Quote from: RawdogDX on September 19, 2007, 09:49:11 AM
Quote from: Toughmover1016 on September 18, 2007, 09:42:20 PM
South Beach+Fame+Money=Divorce


And as i pointed out before Chicago + No Fame + Mid Class + Getting married young because you knocked up your highschool GF = Divorce.
Or for that matter
Seattle + No Fame + Lowwer Class + Getting married young because you knocked up your highschool GF = Divorce.
Or
Dallas + Little Fame(let's say local weatherman) + Upper Mid Class + Getting married young because you knocked up your highschool GF = Divorce.

It was a high risk marriage, nothing that happened later on changed that.


If South Beach+Fame+Money=Divorce and Any Random City regardless of Fame or social class +  Getting married young because you knocked up your highschool GF = Divorce.

then, does:

South Beach + Fame + Money = Any Random City + Getting married young because you knocked up your high school GF?

Assuming South Beach is roughly equivalent to "Any Random City", then we can eliminate cities from the equation and:

Fame + Money = Getting married young because you knocked up your high school GF?

Therefore, a sure path to Fame and Money is to knock up your high school GF and get married young.  Surely no one has an issue with this logic.   :P
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Harrison

A couple of things:

1.  Who knows what happened?  It could be that Siovaughn was absolutely terrible and was ruining DWade's life and happiness and he had felt bad that he got here pregnant and had loyalty but just could not take it anymore.  Not saying that is the case but who knows?  Or it could be DWade has this wonderful public image but is a complete A-Hole to her and feels like she trapped him or whatever, and she felt she had to get out for her own happiness.
Thise are two of about a million possible causes.  To some degree who cares?

2. The 50% divorce rate is completely bogus.  Yes 50% of all amrriages fail, but that does not mean 50% of all people get divorced.  Example Jane and joe live next door to you they are married both for the third time.  You and your wife are both on their first marriage.  they divorce rate for that 2 household demographic is 66%or 75% depending on what calcualtion you use.

spiral97

something interesting I saw on power of 10 last night (tivo'd):
25% of married americans reported that they have seriously contemplated getting a divorce

i was astonished... I was sure it was at least in the 60% range.. take our divorce rate and add some percentage on top for people who contemplated it but didn't.  something doesn't add up that's for sure.
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Harrison

Spiral that simply backs up my point most people and most couples are not getting divorced and most are not contemplating it.  But then you have people getting married 3-4-5-6 times and they scew the entire average.  This 25% number only reinforces the fact the 50% of people do not get divorced, but yes 50% of marriages end in divorce.

Tigidal

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Quote from: Marquette84 on September 18, 2007, 08:39:22 AM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on September 18, 2007, 07:57:12 AM
So sad.  I can only guess it's a deal where fame and fortune ruined love.  Hope the rumor isn't true.

I'm not optimistic. 

His house was on the market earlier this year:
http://whheels.luxist.com/2007/04/08/dwayne-wades-house-estate-of-the-day/

It might be something as simple as that they outgrew this starter home.  But seems more likely that it represents a division of assets. 

I hope for the best for all involved--especially the kids.

I never thought Wade as the type, as he's usually portrayed as the shy humble one, but talk about tacky...




But at least he had MU represented in the kid's room..

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Tigidal on September 19, 2007, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: Marquette84 on September 18, 2007, 08:39:22 AM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on September 18, 2007, 07:57:12 AM
So sad.  I can only guess it's a deal where fame and fortune ruined love.  Hope the rumor isn't true.

I'm not optimistic. 

His house was on the market earlier this year:
http://whheels.luxist.com/2007/04/08/dwayne-wades-house-estate-of-the-day/

It might be something as simple as that they outgrew this starter home.  But seems more likely that it represents a division of assets. 

I hope for the best for all involved--especially the kids.

I never thought Wade as the type, as he's usually portrayed as the shy humble one, but talk about tacky...




But at least he had MU represented in the kid's room..

I wonder if Mrs. FryBoy will let me paint a chiseled version of myself in our entryway???That would be hott.

🏀

Can I get a chiseled version of FryBoy in my dorm?

spiral97

ok - that's almost as bad as zach saying he has a list of guys he'd be interested in if he was interested in guys.....
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4everwarriors

is more like Pillsbury and doughboy.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Dish

Even though it's Wade involved in this, I'm not too surprised.

As some know on here, I've worked in the Chicago Bulls and Chicago Bears front offices. While each individual marriage is obviously it's own and effected by careers, NBA players were far and away worse the NFL players (at least in Chicago) when it comes to "messing around". Not that this has anything to do with Wade in particular, but here's a pretty good story.

We were courting a decent free agent in summer 2000. This player was married and in the league for a few years at that point. He was known as a good guy within the league, and he was coming to Chicago for a visit. He came to Chicago by himself without his wife, and we picked him up from the airport mid-afternoon. After touring the Berto Center, we brought him to his hotel downtown. At around 8:00 pm, we went to pick him up in his room to take him out that night, and as he was almost done dressing, out comes a woman (not his wife) out of his bathroom, clad only in a towel.

When we were going to dinner at Gibson's that night, walking down Rush, someone from our front office noticed some nice looking young women and said "you know, one of the benefits of Chicago is our fine looking women", and NBA player responded "nah, I don't do that, I'm married."

Maybe the woman coming out of his bathroom was his sister or just someone in dire need of a shower. NBA player never did end up signing with us, and to my knowledge, is still married.


77ncaachamps

Any new news on Wade?

Rumors have Gabrielle Union



and the Destiny's Child singer, Kelly Rowland,



romantically linked to DWade.

Haven't heard a lot recently though. Anyone have any news?
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muwarrior87

why are you even bringing this up again?!?

Schoolyard

Think there is any chance we'll have a Gabby Union or Kelly Rowland bobblehead game?  I mean if they're now a part of the MU family we should at least be able to distribute their bobbleheads...could make the Utah Valley State game a little more profitable at the gate.
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Avenue Commons

I meant to make this request before, but I didn't want to "bump" this thread back to the top and was hoping it would go away. But since it's been brought back, I'd like to request that the moderators delete this thread. I know it is tangentially related to Marquette basketball being that Dwyane Wade is involved, but I've always liked to think that Marquette's online community was a little bit better than the typical rumor-mongering message board fans. To me, having Dwyane Wade parade around with some B-list starlet while still technically married is a little embarassing. I think it is fair to say he led us to believe we could expect more from him.

Anyone join in my motion to delete this thread?
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spiral97

Agreed.  Locking the thread.  Let's let this one play out instead of endlessly speculating.
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