Boy if you thought Providence and Seton Hall were bad before.....

[The Sultan of Silly]

Then just wait till their coaches can no longer promise potential recruits playing time against big stage opponents like Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, ND, West Virginia, etc..  I got sick of counting all the prime empty seats when watching MU play Seton Hall this year and can only imagine how many empty seats there will be when they can only sign 1 and 2 star recruits when dogs like Creighton, Xavier, Dayton and St. Louis are added as "replacements" to the ticket buying public.  

Well unfortunately the board boobs that populate and try to dominate the thinking of this site and say Detroit Mercy would be an exciting potential addition with a straight face aren't as clueless as the rest the US population where more than 50% of them acknowledge the new conference (see attached) will be considered mid-major or worse.  That is especially scary in that over 50% of the population was dumb enough to vote for Obama twice so were not talking about a very savvy pubic.  

Smart "mid-major" retailers like the "Limited" used to sign leases in sub-tenant locations with major anchors in place knowing the major anchors like Nordstrom, for example, would draw in customers to the mall and they in turn would feed off the anchor's superior advertising and branding capabilities.  So instead of keeping close to these big football/state "anchor" type of schools like UConn, Cincy, with a history of Final 4's and McDonald All American's, etc. our AD and our board shun even the idea of having them for a couple more years so we can add more worthless mid-majors that will ensure the ultimate demise of MU Basketball back to it's sad late 1980's status.  

Why don't we just let Buzz go to the next major Big 4 conference job, let our star recruits out of their letters of intent and hire Brian Wardle and be prepared for a move back to the Mecca with close losses to UW-Milwaukee already.  The Big 4 conferences will soon shun the NCAA and create their own National Championship for basketball and we'll be completely left out so we might as well be resigned to our fate sooner than later.  

Such a shame as it was so much fun playing in the real Big East (AKA - The Beast) and now we will be left to a bunch of other teams with a fading star who won't be able to attract and retain the brightest coaches and players like they did in the past. Poor leadership and changes in the college basketball landscape that were out of our control are the two primary culprits to this sickening and sad ultimate demise.  

[GoMarquette32]

Lol. Troll on buddy! The leaders of the C7, MU and GTown, just won a share of the Big East Title.

[real chili 83]

Nice job Einstein.

[nyg]

The Real Sultan, your cousin?

[wadesworld]

Then just wait till their coaches can no longer promise potential recruits playing time against big stage opponents like Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, ND, West Virginia, etc..      I got sick of counting all the prime empty seats when watching MU play Seton Hall this year and can only imagine how many empty seats there will be when they can only sign 1 and 2 star recruits when dogs like Creighton, Xavier, Dayton and St. Louis are added as "replacements" to the ticket buying public. 

Well unfortunately the board boobs that populate and try to dominate the thinking of this site and say Detroit Mercy would be an exciting potential addition with a straight face aren't as clueless as the rest the US population where more than 50% of them acknowledge the new conference (see attached) will be considered mid-major or worse.  That is especially scary in that over 50% of the population was dumb enough to vote for Obama twice so were not talking about a very savvy pubic. 

Smart "mid-major" retailers like the "Limited" used to sign leases in sub-tenant locations with major anchors in place knowing the major anchors like Nordstrom, for example, would draw in tenants to the mall and they in turn would feed off the anchor's superior advertising and branding capabilities.  So instead of keeping close to these big football/state "anchor" type of schools like UConn, Cincy, with a history of Final 4's and McDonald All American's, etc. our AD and our board shun even the idea of having them for a couple more years so we can add more worthless mid-majors that will ensure the ultimate demise of MU Basketball back to it's sad late 1980's status. 

Why don't we just let Buzz go to the next major Big 4 conference job, let our star recruits out of their letters of intent and hire Brian Wardle and be prepared for a move back to the Mecca with close losses to UW-Milwaukee already.  The Big 4 conferences will soon shun the NCAA and create their own National Championship for basketball and we'll be completely left out so we might as well be resigned to our fate sooner than later. 

Such a shame as it was so much fun playing in the real Big East (AKA - The Beast) and now we will be left to a bunch of other teams with a fading star who won't be able to attract and retain the brightest coaches and players like they did in the past. Poor leadership and changes in the college basketball landscape that were out of our control are the two primary culprits to this sickening and sad ultimate demise.   

How are the Boiler Makers doing?

[GGGG]

It's just keefe/warthog, etc. trying to troll me.

Not gonna work.

[Pakuni]

It's just keefe/warthog, etc. trying to troll me.

Not gonna work.

Nah. I think it's UDPride.

[jsglow]

Sultan, you're not related to UDpride I'm assuming. 

Actually,  the original poster has a nice command of the language.  He's still an idiot though.

[jt92]

I have to tell you that as pumped up as I am about this year's team there is a knot in my stomach regarding the future.  The reason we are so pumped about this year is becasue we beat some of the best the nation has to offer.  SU, PITT, ND, UConn.. We tied Lousiville for the title.  That competition is gone now.  So while some feel that it is no big deal that we are replacing these team with mid majors (fact), I think it is.  This is about the future and I am sorry these new teams just don't add up.  If Buzz leaves I can't wait to hear what the excuse from so many people is..

[Tugg Speedman]

anyone have a link to that poll?  I would like to see the breakdowns.

[tower912]

A league with MU, Georgetown, Villanova, Butler, Xavier, et al is not mid major.    And the OP's whole raison d'etre is found in his moniker.   He is just a silly troll.  

[wadesworld]

I have to tell you that as pumped up as I am about this year's team there is a kmot in my stomach regarding the future.  The reason we are so pumped about this year is becasue we beat some of the best the nation has to offer.  SU, PITT, ND, UConn.. We tied Lousiville for the title.  That competition is gone now.  So while some feel that it is no big deal that we are replacing these team with mid majors (fact), I think it is.  This is about the future and I am sorry these new teams just don't add up.  If Buzz leaves I can't wait to hear what the excuse from so many people is..

Georgetown, Marquette, Villinova, Butler, Creighton, SLU.  6 teams that are going to be in the conference in 2 years are solidly in the NCAA Tournament this year.  That's 50% of the league.  The number of bids and the percentages of teams from the conference going to the NCAA Tournament would equal that of every conference except for maybe the top 2, possibly the top 3 in the country.  Some people are just silly talking about "mid-major."  Fox is going to pony up this much money to get a mid-major conference on their network?  Likely.

Not to mention I expect Xavier, St. John's, and Providence to be in the running for NCAA Tournament bids next year, and who knows who team #12 will be?  Maybe it's VCU, which would make it bid #7.

[Mufflers]

This is a great satirical thread.

[Eldon]

anyone have a link to that poll?  I would like to see the breakdowns.

I posted it earlier today .  Look for "ESPN poll big east future" or something like that.

I don't think it's UDPride, he's still laying in the middle of downtown Dayton hung-over from celebrating UD's getting that coveted 12 seed

[jt92]

They feasted on really bad teams.  Sorry you cannot compare Creighton, Xavier and St. Louis  with Syr, Pitt, Louisville and UConn.  If you are trying to make a case that we are going to a stronger conference, you are wrong.  The only hope is that the basketball only schools can market to recruits that these schools main focus is basketball and that somehow it resonates...but that is a longshot.  Liberty is going to the tournament..lets add them, maybe we can make an exception to their non catholic status.

[tower912]

Nobody is arguing that MU is entering a better conference.    However, anyone trying to say that MU (A) could have done better or (B) the basketball schools should have stayed with the american12 is simply delusional.      This is the best deal MU and the rest of the basketball-only schools was going to get.    And it is better to no longer be at the whim of football.   

[MU82]

Then just wait till their coaches can no longer promise potential recruits playing time against big stage opponents like Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, ND, West Virginia, etc..      I got sick of counting all the prime empty seats when watching MU play Seton Hall this year and can only imagine how many empty seats there will be when they can only sign 1 and 2 star recruits when dogs like Creighton, Xavier, Dayton and St. Louis are added as "replacements" to the ticket buying public. 

Well unfortunately the board boobs that populate and try to dominate the thinking of this site and say Detroit Mercy would be an exciting potential addition with a straight face aren't as clueless as the rest the US population where more than 50% of them acknowledge the new conference (see attached) will be considered mid-major or worse.  That is especially scary in that over 50% of the population was dumb enough to vote for Obama twice so were not talking about a very savvy pubic. 

Smart "mid-major" retailers like the "Limited" used to sign leases in sub-tenant locations with major anchors in place knowing the major anchors like Nordstrom, for example, would draw in tenants to the mall and they in turn would feed off the anchor's superior advertising and branding capabilities.  So instead of keeping close to these big football/state "anchor" type of schools like UConn, Cincy, with a history of Final 4's and McDonald All American's, etc. our AD and our board shun even the idea of having them for a couple more years so we can add more worthless mid-majors that will ensure the ultimate demise of MU Basketball back to it's sad late 1980's status. 

Why don't we just let Buzz go to the next major Big 4 conference job, let our star recruits out of their letters of intent and hire Brian Wardle and be prepared for a move back to the Mecca with close losses to UW-Milwaukee already.  The Big 4 conferences will soon shun the NCAA and create their own National Championship for basketball and we'll be completely left out so we might as well be resigned to our fate sooner than later. 

Such a shame as it was so much fun playing in the real Big East (AKA - The Beast) and now we will be left to a bunch of other teams with a fading star who won't be able to attract and retain the brightest coaches and players like they did in the past. Poor leadership and changes in the college basketball landscape that were out of our control are the two primary culprits to this sickening and sad ultimate demise.   

Dumb-arse.

[ChicosBailBonds]

This is the link

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/9032205/brighter-future-big-east-divorce

If you look at the second poll, and answer that one, the fans believe the left over Big East (America 12) will be a high major conference.

This is a classic example of the dumbing down of America and the low information voter.  They don't even know who is in the leagues, simple as that.

[muwarrior69]

Actually a high Mid major conference. Agree with your general sentiment though. The difference is will ESPN promote America 12 the way FOX will promote the Big East?

[setyoursightsnorth]

 is especially scary in that over 50% of the population was dumb enough to vote for Obama twice so were not talking about a very savvy pubic. 

Basketball and politics have nothing to do with each other, if you're still Butt-hurt about Obama winning, stop attributing the results to race or voter knowledge. Only 1/3rd of the country actually voted.

Troll.

[keefe]

It's just keefe/warthog, etc. trying to troll me.

Not gonna work.

No, it's not you rapscallion.

[muguru]

Georgetown, Marquette, Villinova, Butler, Creighton, SLU.  6 teams that are going to be in the conference in 2 years are solidly in the NCAA Tournament this year.  That's 50% of the league.  The number of bids and the percentages of teams from the conference going to the NCAA Tournament would equal that of every conference except for maybe the top 2, possibly the top 3 in the country.  Some people are just silly talking about "mid-major."  Fox is going to pony up this much money to get a mid-major conference on their network?  Likely.

Not to mention I expect Xavier, St. John's, and Providence to be in the running for NCAA Tournament bids next year, and who knows who team #12 will be?  Maybe it's VCU, which would make it bid #7.

I too have my concerns. Anyone that thinks this new conference will be anywhere near as strong as the old Big East is delusional. Yes, the conference would prove to be very strong THIS year with the new additions, but how consistent will those other teams be?? I don't worry about MU, they have proven their worth, and will carry their weight...8th consecutive year of being in the NCAAs. Not even Nova or Georgetown can say that. The bottom part of this conference is very weak(SH, DePaul etc) and there are no guarantees they will turn it around soon, if ever. Will SLU stay consistent?? I have my doubts. Or Butler?? Or even Xavier?? There are definitely things to be concerned about as far as the image of this conference goes going forward.

[tower912]

So, Guru, please list a preferred alternative. 

[keefe]

Our new conference will be solid but no way is it anywhere near as good as the old Big East. We were very fortunate to have been part of the best hoops conference in the modern era. The new Big East is not in any way a mid major and should be extremely competitive. I remain concerned about PC, SHU, DePaul, and SJU upping their game. 40% of our new conference behave as mid majors.

[JakeBarnes]

I still don't understand how Illinois got so much better than us.