Worthless chat

[setyoursightsnorth]

When Shaka Smart got VCU into the Final Four, he could have done a plethora of moves. Hell, he was offered a head coaching job at NC State, a VAST improvement over VCU. He decided to stick with the Rams and got an 8 year deal out of it. Buzz will not leave MU for "greener pastures". MU is an elite program and he's making a Top Ten salary. Sure Texas has its benefit, but as many of you have stated, Milwaukee is his city. He is the reason why MU is what it is and the basketball program that it currently boasts. In the next two years, we could be looking at a Final Four appearances and even a National Title, who knows, but this recruiting class is out of this world. Why on Earth would anyone give up the chance to be solidified in a school's history to go coach at a school where basketball plays second fiddle?

Some of you are out of your damn minds.  

[BenCat12]

When Shaka Smart got VCU into the Final Four, he could have done a plethora of moves. Hell, he was offered a head coaching job at NC State, a VAST improvement over VCU. He decided to stick with the Rams and got an 8 year deal out of it. Buzz will not leave MU for "greener pastures". MU is an elite program and he's making a Top Ten salary.

I'm getting really sick of you people claiming he will be gone. I cannot wait for that day when this can all be put to rest and the conspiracy theories will finally stop.

The only way it is put to rest is when he actually leaves for another job.....or wins a National Championship next year....yeah, I said it.

[wojosdojo]

"He'll stay as long as Marquette will have him."

+1. He's said this countless amount of times.

[Windyplayer]

This stuff is so tiresome.

[Avenue Commons]

Comeon. Is the real world not real anymore? UT IS a better job. The recruits, facilities, resources, are second to NONE. That is a hard job to turn down, probably only eclipsed by Kansas, UNC, UK, Indiana, UCLA, Duke, and equal with Michigan St, OSU, Arizona, Florida.

Does that mean its an automatic decision? Of course not. Sometimes you don't mess with happy as Buzz says. That doesn't mean you would never leave either.

Totally agree. If the money is equal or better, the chance to compete for a national championship is better at Texas. Add to it that is Buzz's home state and his recruiting base and it seems like easy math.

But, that's assuming Buzz would be the No. 1 choice and the money was equal. We will see in the next few years. I don't see another monster job opening and if UT didn't work out I can't see how/why Buzz would leave.

[chren21]

While I disagree with several of your points above, you forgot two important points:
1.  Like it or not, Texas has more money than Marquette
2.  Texas would spend any amount possible to trump Kansas in basketball in the Big 12

Neither of the above means Buzz would levw for Texas, but both should have you concerned over your points above.

Also the simple point is this.... If indeed the numerous reports regarding buzz having a terrible relationship with both LW and father P are true, we should be very concerned if Texas came calling.  That's the simple truth.  Why MU doesn't kiss the ground he walks on is beyond me.  But I'm a 100% Buzz backer so maybe my opinion seems tainted....   Even if I question his substitution patterns every so often...  :-)

[4everwarriors]

"He'll stay as long as Marquette will have him."

Thank you, Lou Perini

[Sunbelt15]

All this "Buzz leaving" talk: Is it really that bad to coach here or Is it that many schools out there so desperate that they are willing to over pay coaches to get them there? He has built a winning program with strong support here.  Where is all this talk coming from?

[Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown]

2.  Texas would spend any amount possible to trump Kansas in basketball in the Big 12

interesing theory... So when will they start doing that?

Bill Self - $5.2m http://www.kansascity.com/2012/09/28/3837951/ku-gives-self-contract-extension.html
Rick Barnes - $2.4m http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/texas-longhorns/20110512-rick-barnes_salary-increase-criticized-by-texas-state-senators.ece

Note the underlying culture differences between the two schools in these articles? A 200k raise for Barnes under severe scrutiny... I'm sure they'd be thrilled to dole out a $1m raise to match what buzz makes here? In addition to his buyout?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Thank you, Lou Perini

I have more faith in Buzz than what Lou Perini did.


Mark Few hasn't left.  Chris Peterson hasn't left.  Have some faith gentlemen....and if he leaves, you have a truckload of money, history, fanbase to go find another good coach.

[MU B2002]

The equation seems to be pretty easy on this board. So easy to troll.

1. New scooper joins
2. Pours gas on one of several fires
3. steps back to watch it blow up.


We play for a big east title tomorrow.  I am going to try savor that and the rest of this season.


If buzz leaves, he leaves.  It will suck, but sh*t happens.

[Tugg Speedman]

First, and this has been said a million times ... Barnes is not getting fired!  Repeat, Barnes is not getting fired!!  This should end the thread now but consider these other things ...

* Buzz has not lived in Texas for 11 years.  (MU 6 years, NOLA 1 year, CSU 4 years).  His four kids are not Texans, they are Cheeseheads.  They were born and raised in Milwaukee.  His wife seems to be happy right here.  That matters to him.

SMU was never serious ... that was a pissing match between LW and Buzz.  

He had a chance to consider Texas A&M in the last few years and that did not materialize.

He is out out-recruiting Bo in WI and making good inroads in Chicago (see Taylor, Steve).  

Crean left because he perceived a ceiling at MU that IU did not have.  This year proves Crean right about IU.  Buzz has taken Crean's MU ceiling and raised it even higher.  At this point Buzz has almost proven Crean wrong about MU.  So, what higher ceiling does UT have over MU?  Especially considering the talent coming next year, the future talent in WI he's after, and his inroads in Chicago?

[MU82]

The nice thing about this thread is it almost surely will be the last one ever on this subject.

[KenoshaWarrior]

This Thread blows up to a 20 pager in 3..2..1...

[Aughnanure]

But, that's assuming Buzz would be the No. 1 choice and the money was equal. We will see in the next few years. I don't see another monster job opening and if UT didn't work out I can't see how/why Buzz would leave.

Exactly. I could see Shaka and Marshall above him, and they would both be significantly cheaper options.

Plus, Barnes ain't leaving this yr. Cat has what? 14 straight tourney appearances behind only KU, MSU, and Duke.

[frozena pizza]

Wasn't there a ridiculous stat about how many D-1 recruits were in the city of Houston alone? Chicago is great, but I think the state of Texas has a ton more recruits.

Right, but Buzz already gets guys from there.  Also, it's not like Texas is the only school down there.  Recruiting is so national now that the best guys out of Texas are still ending up at Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, etc.

[frozena pizza]

First, a few things about Rick Barnes.  He has a career record of 558-287.  The last time he missed the NCAA tournament was '94-'95, his first year at Clemson.  He will have a losing record in the Big 12 this year, which will be his first in 15 years at Texas.  He has proven himself at every stop.

Finally, I have some good friends who are Texas fans.  Every day they talk about Mack Brown getting fired.  I ask them about Rick Barnes and they basically shrug and say "he's okay."  Not saying he's not on the hot seat, but I think he's earned some leash.  One down year doesn't erase everything he's accomplished.

[hairy worthen]

Right, but Buzz already gets guys from there.  Also, it's not like Texas is the only school down there.  Recruiting is so national now that the best guys out of Texas are still ending up at Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, etc.

I would imagine some or many of the highly rated recruits would want to go to a school where they actually take basketball seriously. Having lived in Texas I know that football is king and it isnt even close, basketball is almost an aferthought. I would say the pecking order of sports in most parts of Texas would be:

1. college football
2. High school football
3.Nfl football
4. Pro basketball
5. college basketball

[muwarrior69]

On one of the UT forums it was stated that the UT admin would likely only hire a minority coach. Sorry don't have the link, but it's in one of the threads here on Scoop.

[hairy worthen]

On one of the UT forums it was stated that the UT admin would likely only hire a minority coach. Sorry don't have the link, but it's in one of the threads here on Scoop.

UT is a super liberal school, maybe more so than Madison.  Does shaved head and quirky constitute a minority?

[muwarrior69]

Another thing that struck me was the question about the "super conferences" forming their own Basketball tournament. Hunt thinks it's feasible that they could add High major basketball schools like MU, Gtown etc. for basketball.

[Eldon]

The equation seems to be pretty easy on this board. So easy to troll.

1. New scooper joins
2. Pours gas on one of several fires
3. steps back to watch it blow up.


We play for a big east title tomorrow.  I am going to try savor that and the rest of this season.


If buzz leaves, he leaves.  It will suck, but sh*t happens.

I honestly did not mean to upset the apple cart.  Hunt's responses just struck me as a little worrisome because Hunt doesnt say "I dont know about Buzz leaving, after all, he said Ill stay as long as MU will have me."  Instead, his responses to the 'is buzz leaving questions' are "well, can you blame him?"  Coming from a paranoid fan, it's not a big deal, but, to me, it's a bigger deal if it's coming from the beat reporter who is very candid in his Q&A session.

[Litehouse]

Hunt knows less about the situation than most posters on this board.

[Benny B]

Times like these are when I wish someone in Vegas would let me lay odds on Buzz not being at Texas next year.  I could probably put my kids through college by leveraging the amount of skepticism and doubt around here into a profit.

[only a warrior]

"He'll stay as long as Marquette will have him."

Didn't Crean say the same thing?