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Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 06, 2013, 11:08:51 PMAre you worried about Jamal Ferguson transferring?

I believe the correct term is Buzz cutting.

Litehouse

Or Bo-ning, which is when a player inexplicably loses the will to play the game... until the next year when he shows up at a different school.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Goose on March 07, 2013, 02:44:10 AM
Chico's

Buzz sure has not shortened his bench this time of year.

Most teams do.  And in years past, Buzz did also.  Each situation is different, but come playoff time and crunch time, the bench is often shortened down the stretch for a number of teams.

Done in hockey, basketball, etc.


leever

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 07, 2013, 09:06:48 AM
Appears so

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=buzzcut

or Creaning

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=creaning

And you were doing so well.

I mean, you're not trying to take this topic to a different focus by referencing Tom Crean, are you?

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: leever on March 07, 2013, 10:38:28 AM
And you were doing so well.

I mean, you're not trying to take this topic to a different focus by referencing Tom Crean, are you?

My guess is if I would have just put the Buzz Cutting definition on there then people would scream and say TC did it, too.  Which he did.  So I was trying to show that both have been accused of it so not to be accused of saying only BW did it, which wouldn't be fair. 

leever

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 07, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
My guess is if I would have just put the Buzz Cutting definition on there then people would scream and say TC did it, too.  Which he did.  So I was trying to show that both have been accused of it so not to be accused of saying only BW did it, which wouldn't be fair. 

You could have included Bo-ning instead, although I'm too lazy to see if that's in the urban dictionary.

Otule's Glass Eye

Not sure if it will affect his PT by the time he is a junior, but UNC just scored a commit from a 5 star SF recruit for 2014 a few days ago.

MU82

#33
Question: What recent former Tar Heel had these stats as a freshman: 15 games, 7.8 mpg, 3.1 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.2 apg, and played more than 8 minutes only twice after Dec. 1?

Answer: Tyler Zeller.

He went on to have a fair career before he started cashing NBA paychecks.

There are lots of good players at North Carolina. Unless you are a star, it's hard to get minutes there as a freshman. I don't know if Tokoto ever will be good there, but it's WAY to early to judge.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: leever on March 07, 2013, 02:30:04 PM
You could have included Bo-ning instead, although I'm too lazy to see if that's in the urban dictionary.

I suspect there are some stellar definitions for Bo-Ning. 

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: MU82 on March 07, 2013, 05:09:21 PM
Question: What recent former Tar Hell had these stats as a freshman: 15 games, 7.8 mpg, 3.1 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.2 apg, and played more than 8 minutes only twice after Dec. 1?

Answer: Tyler Zeller.

He went on to have a fair career before he started cashing NBA paychecks.

There are lots of good players at North Carolina. Unless you are a star, it's hard to get minutes there as a freshman. I don't know if Tokoto ever will be good there, but it's WAY to early to judge.

Tokoto has no point and no shots in the last 6 games.  0 minutes the last two and and 6 in the two games before that.  Dylan Flood has a more impressive line over the same period.   How on earth can you conclude this line is comparable to Tyler Zeller's number?

But forget all that ... Tokoto is hurt which accounts for his poor play.

Tugg Speedman

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Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 07, 2013, 08:12:01 AM
Yet he suited up for every game and played in two NCAA Tournament games.  He played about as much as JP Tokoto.

AFAIK JP isn't hurt.

So you think it's bad for a player to gut it out through pain?  They should declare themselves unable to play unless they are 100%.

That is what you are saying?

Oh, and the UNC boards say Tokoto has a hand injury.  What inside info do you have that says he is not hurt?

The Process

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 07, 2013, 08:11:26 PM
So you think it's bad for a player to gut it out through pain?  They should declare themselves unable to play unless they are 100%.

That is what you are saying?

Oh, and the UNC boards say Tokoto has a hand injury.  What inside info do you have that says he is not hurt?

The post you quote was from BEFORE Blackheart posted the link to the injury.  Perhaps you should at least give him the chance to say "thanks - good to know."  Or maybe he just saw the post, saw your "thanks, good to know" and left it alone.

AFAIK = "As far as I know."  Now he knows.
Relax. Respect the Process.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: CaptainAwesome on March 07, 2013, 08:17:17 PM
The post you quote was from BEFORE Blackheart posted the link to the injury.  Perhaps you should at least give him the chance to say "thanks - good to know."  Or maybe he just saw the post, saw your "thanks, good to know" and left it alone.

AFAIK = "As far as I know."  Now he knows.

I was more interested in his dismissive attitude to Juan playing in pain last year.  Recall he needed shoulder surgery after the season ended.

MUDPT

I'm pretty sure Zellar broke his wrist at the beginning of his freshman year and missed a huge chunk of the season.

The Process

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 07, 2013, 08:29:30 PM
I was more interested in his dismissive attitude to Juan playing in pain last year.  Recall he needed shoulder surgery after the season ended.

That is a fair question.  It was the last line of your previous post that triggered me, when you asked "what inside info do you have that says he is not hurt."

*We now return you to your debate about Juan, already in progress*
Relax. Respect the Process.

MU82

Quote from: MUDPT on March 07, 2013, 08:33:00 PM
I'm pretty sure Zellar broke his wrist at the beginning of his freshman year and missed a huge chunk of the season.

You're right, though he came back in February, completely cleared to play, and hardly saw any time at all over the last month and a half. Very likely, roles already were established by everybody else, but he's an athletic 7-footer and Williams couldn't find any P.T. for him. Didn't play all that much as a soph, either.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Blackhat

The better Wilson, Buycks, and Blue do the more a kid like Tokoto will like his chances of succeeding at MU when starting over.

Tokoto is going to probably get buried going forward.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on March 07, 2013, 06:07:15 PM
The "buzzcut" author has only two contributions to his name. Wanna guess the other one?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=Dante+Inferno414

Whereas "creaning" has three unique authors.

I liked the alternate definition about loosing all 3 assistants.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 07, 2013, 08:11:26 PM
So you think it's bad for a player to gut it out through pain?  They should declare themselves unable to play unless they are 100%.

That is what you are saying?

Oh, and the UNC boards say Tokoto has a hand injury.  What inside info do you have that says he is not hurt?

You sure find a way to jump to conclusions.  I was merely pointing out that Juan and JP had very comparable Freshman seasons.  Both didn't play much and were injured.  This is in no way an indication of where they will be the following year.  JP will probably rehab his injury and play more as a Sophomore.  Just like Juan did.

frozena pizza

Quote from: Stone Cold on March 07, 2013, 09:22:53 PM
The better Wilson, Buycks, and Blue do the more a kid like Tokoto will like his chances of succeeding at MU when starting over.

Tokoto is going to probably get buried going forward.

I don't think he would be playing much for us this year either.  But he would be an ideal transfer in terms of timing and his game.  But I'm not getting my hopes up.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 08, 2013, 07:11:40 AM
You sure find a way to jump to conclusions.  I was merely pointing out that Juan and JP had very comparable Freshman seasons.  Both didn't play much and were injured.  This is in no way an indication of where they will be the following year.  JP will probably rehab his injury and play more as a Sophomore.  Just like Juan did.

I interpreted your original comment as being dismissive of playing thorough an injury.  I now stand corrected.

Dreadman24

Quote from: MU82 on March 07, 2013, 05:09:21 PM
Question: What recent former Tar Heel had these stats as a freshman: 15 games, 7.8 mpg, 3.1 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.2 apg, and played more than 8 minutes only twice after Dec. 1?

Answer: Tyler Zeller.

He went on to have a fair career before he started cashing NBA paychecks.

There are lots of good players at North Carolina. Unless you are a star, it's hard to get minutes there as a freshman. I don't know if Tokoto ever will be good there, but it's WAY to early to judge.



He also broke his and missed most of the season that year. Not a good example

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