Steve Voboril?

[ChuckyChip]

A friend showed me an article (sorry, no link, just a hardcopy) about Steve Voboril.  Voboril is quoted as saying that he played for MU from 1971-1975.  My friend knows that I have a pretty strong knowledge of MU hoop history, so he asked for details about the guy (position played, etc.).  I had to admit that I never heard of him, but that I would do some checking.  There is no Steve Voboril on the all-time roster in the 2013 media guide.  I dug out my media guides from 1972-1975 and I cannot find any reference to this guy - no stats, not on any roster (varsity or JV), not in any team photos, etc.  Voboril is also quoted saying he played on the 1975 team that lost in the NCAA finals, which threw up a red flag for me (since that would have been 1974).

Has anyone heard of this guy?  I did a search on Scoop and found one reference to him possibly being a team manager(?), but again, he does not appear in any team photos from that era that I have seen.

[Lighthouse 84]

A friend showed me an article (sorry, no link, just a hardcopy) about Steve Voboril.  Voboril is quoted as saying that he played for MU from 1971-1975.  My friend knows that I have a pretty strong knowledge of MU hoop history, so he asked for details about the guy (position played, etc.).  I had to admit that I never heard of him, but that I would do some checking.  There is no Steve Voboril on the all-time roster in the 2013 media guide.  I dug out my media guides from 1972-1975 and I cannot find any reference to this guy - no stats, not on any roster (varsity or JV), not in any team photos, etc.  Voboril is also quoted saying he played on the 1975 team that lost in the NCAA finals, which threw up a red flag for me (since that would have been 1974).

Has anyone heard of this guy?  I did a search on Scoop and found one reference to him possibly being a team manager(?), but again, he does not appear in any team photos from that era that I have seen.

He's listed on the list of former players who played at Bo Ellis's golf outing for Bo's daughter.

http://www.muscoop.com/uploads/EllisGolfOuting.pdf

[Goose]

4ever can you confirm this? I am a seller but know you will have the answer. Pretty much no every walkon in the Al era and this is stumping me.

[mu-rara]

Vobs was an Assistant AD in the 70s, early 80's maybe.  He is a Northwestern Mutual Agent now.   I've never heard him claim to be a player.

[keefe]

4ever can you confirm this? I am a seller but know you will have the answer. Pretty much no every walkon in the Al era and this is stumping me.

He's not listed in any of the archives as having been on the team. I did find a reference that he was the Asst AD for Business Affairs in the mid-80's then a candidate to replace Hank. Maybe he was a manager?

[Goose]

Hey, I never missed a game during those years, can I be listed as former player?

[keefe]

Hey, I never missed a game during those years, can I be listed as former player?

In knew Mark Lavin and had some beers with him at Hegarty's so I am kinda like a player, no?

[Goose]

Lavin is a legendary walkon so that counts big time. Plus he might have more cash than you do. I think you can consider yourself on par with Mark.

[4everwarriors]

Pretty certain MU-rara has it nailed.

[Goose]

Speaking of having cash, 4ever jumps in after the fact.

[4everwarriors]

Sorry, just got home from the plant. 

[Goose]

Pace yourself. We have a few more games before offseason fun begins.

[T-Bone]

To reiterate what MU-rara said.
Steve's a really nice guy.  He is/was with Northwestern Mutual.  I had worked with him as a client a few companies ago. 

[mu-rara]

In between MU and NM he had a gig as a concert promoter.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Sorry, just got home from the plant. 

new glory hole establishment offa I43, aina?

[ChuckyChip]

Sorry to dig up this old, obscure topic, but just saw this on jsonline -

http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/longtime-northwestern-mutual-financial-adviser-faces-theft-probe-b99210772z1-246593471.html

[keefe]

Little lapse in judgment there by "Vobs." What really stinks is that at least one person in a nursing home signed over complete control of their assets through a Power of Attorney to this guy.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Little lapse in judgment there by "Vobs." What really stinks is that at least one person in a nursing home signed over complete control of their assets through a Power of Attorney to this guy.

Reading the comments section of the article is interesting additional information, though not sure if it is accurate.

[River rat]

Dont know if any of this article is true or not, but what i do know to be true is financial institutions have dedicated internal investgation units that investgate any complaint.  Similar to police detectives they have seen it all and know the difference between unhappy or frustrated clientsand criminal wrondoing.  Addiyionally, it is an incrediby documented industry with a paper trail for everything.  Financial institutions would never let a long time producing individual go unless they were certain that criminal actions had taken place.  Lastly, it makes no difference that hundreds or even thousands of cuurent or former clients stand up to the character of the guy, if he took even one dollar from someone he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

[kylelylemustrong]

He's a good guy by all regards. This isn't the first time NML has wrongly accused an established advisor so I would give it time.

Was really close with Hank Raymonds - Hank was almost like a second father to him. Loves Marquette - was Assistant Athletic Director 81-84 (I believe?) Went to Washington HS and walked-on his freshman year (71) but tore his ACL soon thereafter. Stayed on the bench and helped out with the team so he has the NCAA ring. Officiated after that for awhile..

[keefe]

He's a good guy by all regards. This isn't the first time NML has wrongly accused an established advisor so I would give it time.

Was really close with Hank Raymonds - Hank was almost like a second father to him. Loves Marquette - was Assistant Athletic Director 81-84 (I believe?) Went to Washington HS and walked-on his freshman year (71) but tore his ACL soon thereafter. Stayed on the bench and helped out with the team so he has the NCAA ring. Officiated after that for awhile..

He wasn't just accused. He was investigated by his employer who then terminated his employment and turned over their findings to law enforcement. Our system is built on trust. Not only did "Vobs" betray that trust but he took advantage of an elderly person who gave him power of attorney.

If Hank was like a father to "Vobs" I am guessing he would likely be ashamed of his protégé. 

[rocket surgeon]

He wasn't just accused. He was investigated by his employer who then terminated his employment and turned over their findings to law enforcement. Our system is built on trust. Not only did "Vobs" betray that trust but he took advantage of an elderly person who gave him power of attorney.

If Hank was like a father to "Vobs" I am guessing he would likely be ashamed of his protégé. 

did you read the comment section?  particularly that of susan komie?  i'm just surprised/disappointed at your knee-jerk conclusion keefe.  something doesn't smell right here..but i am glad someone brought this to my attention as it deserves to be followed through on.  there seems to be more questions than answers.  if hank was like a father to vobs, i'm guessing we are going to hear...the rest of the story and hopefully sooner rather than later.  just saying-we need to hear more here before we convict this guy.  he is in fact part of the marquette community and if any of what susan had to say is true along with his relationship to hank, i'm leaning more toward helping "vobs" get his life back on track-he deserves better...much better

[GGGG]

did you read the comment section?  particularly that of susan komie?  i'm just surprised/disappointed at your knee-jerk conclusion keefe.  something doesn't smell right here..but i am glad someone brought this to my attention as it deserves to be followed through on.  there seems to be more questions than answers.  if hank was like a father to vobs, i'm guessing we are going to hear...the rest of the story and hopefully sooner rather than later.  just saying-we need to hear more here before we convict this guy.  he is in fact part of the marquette community and if any of what susan had to say is true along with his relationship to hank, i'm leaning more toward helping "vobs" get his life back on track-he deserves better...much better

The problem with those comments by susan komie is that they never actually address the claims against him. They just talk about what a nice guy he is.  And he might be...and there might be a completely reasonable explanation for all of this.  Or he may have taken advantage of a couple of his 1,200 clients for whatever reason.

And yeah, she is right that this wouldn't be the first time that NML has made false claims against someone.  But that doesn't mean that they *always* make false claims. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

The problem with those comments by susan komie is that they never actually address the claims against him. They just talk about what a nice guy he is.  And he might be...and there might be a completely reasonable explanation for all of this.  Or he may have taken advantage of a couple of his 1,200 clients for whatever reason.

And yeah, she is right that this wouldn't be the first time that NML has made false claims against someone.  But that doesn't mean that they *always* make false claims. 

I think in one of the comments it said that the accounts in question were family or something of Mr. Voboril.

[GGGG]

I think in one of the comments it said that the accounts in question were family or something of Mr. Voboril.

Unless I am completely missing something, I don't think it said that at all.

Not to mention, that using family members money in the manner in which he is being accused of using it is at least unethical...if not illegal.