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jesmu84

Quote from: CTWarrior on March 06, 2013, 02:01:56 PM
Yes, because one guy decided it wasn't one of the five worst losses out of the roughly 5000 D-I basketball games played this year, it wasn't really a bad loss after all. 

There were definitely people on here claiming it was on par with Penn State and TCU. That's all.

Tugg Speedman

Also note that Rick Barnes in not on the list of those that will be looking for a new job.

CTWarrior

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 06, 2013, 02:08:02 PM
There were definitely people on here claiming it was on par with Penn State and TCU. That's all.
I was a little snarky, but that was a horrible, horrible loss to a vastly inferior team.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

Marqevans

The new conference will need a couple of years of teams finishing in the final 4 for it to be an elite conference.

Litehouse

Quote from: ElDonBDon on March 06, 2013, 01:56:14 PM
Good point to consider, but I would still argue that the implication is that King does not consider the new conference to be considered a "power" or "major" one.  Why is Stevens name even on the list if he is already headed to a major conference?  That is, if King considered the New BE to be "major" why put stevens name on the list if he is going to be coaching in a major conference in a couple of months anyway?

You're reading way too much into this, Butler hasn't been announced as part of anything yet.  They're mentioned as a favorite to join the league, but it's still too early to go on those assumptions as part of an article like this.  Heck, the New Big East hasn't even formally announced it will begin play next year.  It's still just reported as "sources close to the situation say..."

Pakuni

Quote from: ElDonBDon on March 06, 2013, 01:56:14 PM
Good point to consider, but I would still argue that the implication is that King does not consider the new conference to be considered a "power" or "major" one.  Why is Stevens name even on the list if he is already headed to a major conference?  That is, if King considered the New BE to be "major" why put stevens name on the list if he is going to be coaching in a major conference in a couple of months anyway?

Just because a guy coaches a team in a "major" conference doesn't preclude him from moving up.
Tom Crean went from Big East to Big 10. Nobody would argue that the Big East, circa 2008, was not a power conference.
Bill Self went from Big 10 to Big 12.
John Beilein went from Big East to Big 10.
Bob Huggins went from Big 12 to Big East.
Tony Bennett went from Pac 10 to ACC.
Oliver Purnell went from ACC to Big East.
There are plenty of examples.

jesmu84

Quote from: Pakuni on March 06, 2013, 05:00:44 PM
Just because a guy coaches a team in a "major" conference doesn't preclude him from moving up.
Tom Crean went from Big East to Big 10. Nobody would argue that the Big East, circa 2008, was not a power conference.
Bill Self went from Big 10 to Big 12.
John Beilein went from Big East to Big 10.
Bob Huggins went from Big 12 to Big East.
Tony Bennett went from Pac 10 to ACC.
Oliver Purnell went from ACC to Big East.
There are plenty of examples.

Hell... Roy Williams went from Kansas to UNC. Arguably a move from a top 5 job to a top 3 job.

Avenue Commons

Quote from: Victor McCormick on March 06, 2013, 01:17:34 PM
After the split, does "Big 6" or "Power 6" become "Big 7" or "Power 7" in the media? Let's hope so.

No. It'll be "The Big 6 conferences plus the Big East for basketball..."
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77ncaachamps

What is the change in pre-season rank to end-of-season rank (at least what they're ranked now) for GT and MU?
How much offense (% points) left GU and MU last year?
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Tugg Speedman

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on March 06, 2013, 08:31:56 PM
What is the change in pre-season rank to end-of-season rank (at least what they're ranked now) for GT and MU?
How much offense (% points) left GU and MU last year?

Both were "other receiving votes" to start the year.  MU had 23 votes and GU had 9 votes

Or, MU started in 34th place (now 15th and looking to rise)
GU started in 38 place (now 5th and looking to fall)


Eldon

Quote from: Pakuni on March 06, 2013, 05:00:44 PM
Just because a guy coaches a team in a "major" conference doesn't preclude him from moving up.
Tom Crean went from Big East to Big 10. Nobody would argue that the Big East, circa 2008, was not a power conference.
Bill Self went from Big 10 to Big 12.
John Beilein went from Big East to Big 10.
Bob Huggins went from Big 12 to Big East.
Tony Bennett went from Pac 10 to ACC.
Oliver Purnell went from ACC to Big East.
There are plenty of examples.

No doubt about it.  But in the article King only mentions schools that are mid-major, i.e., non-BCS conferences.  Also in the article he talks about moving up from one of these conferences, to one of the power conferences. 

I'm not trying put words in his mouth about moving from one power conference to another, I just want to point out that this article, as I see it, is evidence that the media will consider the New Big East conference as a "mid-major" conference, which, IMO, is unfortunate because many people, say, casual fans, don't get that all that means is that we don't have football, not that we are inferior in basketball.


Coleman

Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 06, 2013, 08:24:07 PM
No. It'll be "The Big 6 conferences plus the Big East for basketball..."

Do you think the LEAST is really still a "Power 6"? It kinda seems on par with the old CUSA

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